All Ireland Senior Hurling Championship (Liam Mccarthy Cup) 2020

Girly Gal wrote: »

There aren't 7 teams who have a serious chance of winning the all Ireland, 3 at a push, the rest are much of a muchness and might on their day cause a shock, but, won't be able to do it over 2/3 games.
The semi finalists from 2013 didn't really do much in the all Ireland championship in the following 2 or 3 seasons, the Limerick team of 2018 was completely different to the 2013 team.

have to disagree if there was a year anything is possible this is the year, so many potential spanner in the works for different teams too.

Fancy Limerick myself but any of Galway, Kilkenny, Cork or Tipp could win it imo. Don't think Wexford, Waterford or Dublin have the firepower to do it. Clare are as good as gone after yesterday.

Gentleman Off The Pitch wrote: »

Just checking, are any of the posters that said Horgan is a good ref not from Tipp ?

mountgomery burns wrote: »

I don't think he's bad, and he's not popular in Waterford. He's better than several of his colleagues

But today was not his best day.

benji79 wrote: »

I’m from Cork, think he’s an excellent ref

That didn't go quite to plan Gentleman! And I was the one who began the criticism and I am a Tipp man, better look next time

breezy1985 wrote: »

Ya there really hasn't been a proper arses on the line game between the two since the first round of Munster in 2018 and Tipp were a bit of a joke that year. Even this weekend no one is in danger of going out but if they were to meet again later on it could be a real epic or real nasty

To be honest I am a little bit indifferent to next weekend, on one side I am sure Sheedy may well have taken the view of 4 games, thats all 4 games and we are champions, but on the other side of the coin is it is invariably incredibly difficult to beat the same team twice and I would say there is a very strong chance that the two will meet again, not a given of course but if you were a betting man etc.

Yesterday will certainly stand to Limerick and one only has to look at the contrast between their first half and their second half, if Tipp have a similar 'bedding in' period then the game will be over after 20 mins. However on the flip side Limerick didnt really get to find out anything about their Full Back line yesterday and if John McGrath, Seamie Callanan, Bubbles/Jake Morris are on song it could be a goal fest.

It would be great to see both teams go hell for leather - imagine the Limerick half forward line v Tipp half back line going at it full belt! - but I suspect there will be an element of shadow boxing going on from one or probably both teams.

Pogue eile wrote: »

To be honest I am a little bit indifferent to next weekend, on one side I am sure Sheedy may well have taken the view of 4 games, thats all 4 games and we are champions, but on the other side of the coin is it is invariably incredibly difficult to beat the same team twice and I would say there is a very strong chance that the two will meet again, not a given of course but if you were a betting man etc.

Yesterday will certainly stand to Limerick and one only has to look at the contrast between their first half and their second half, if Tipp have a similar 'bedding in' period then the game will be over after 20 mins. However on the flip side Limerick didnt really get to find out anything about their Full Back line yesterday and if John McGrath, Seamie Callanan, Bubbles/Jake Morris are on song it could be a goal fest.

It would be great to see both teams go hell for leather - imagine the Limerick half forward line v Tipp half back line going at it full belt! - but I suspect there will be an element of shadow boxing going on from one or probably both teams.

Ya much like last year if one team pulls ahead there won't be that same fear to kill yourself or them to pull it back level. Might have been different a few years ago but both teams have plenty of medals in the pocket and are favourites for the AI so a Munster win is secondary

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Limerick the obvious favourites, they barely got past 2nd gear yesterday and won by 10 points. But I wouldnt be ruling out the likes of Galway, Kilkenny, Tipperary & wexford.

You need dogs for winter hurling and kilkenny have plenty of them, remember they took down limerick last year and are more than capable of doing it again.

Ya but also remember Tipp made them look like pups a few weeks later. They might have bullied a complacent young Limerick team but still finished another year with no trophy

breezy1985 wrote: »

Ya there really hasn't been a proper arses on the line game between the two since the first round of Munster in 2018 and Tipp were a bit of a joke that year. Even this weekend no one is in danger of going out but if they were to meet again later on it could be a real epic or real nasty

That's the problem with the hurling championship, too many matches with nothing on the line, it's really only from the provincial finals on that the real hurling begins and with the round robin series of last few years a team can lose 2 matches and win the all Ireland which is madness. There's a myth that there's 5 or 6 teams can win an all Ireland on any given year when generally only 2 or 3 have a serious chance,.

I don't understand how wexford are rated so highly on this forum. They were literally seconds from being knocked out of leinster last year, and arguably Davy would be gone this year. The only team they actually beat in the round robin was Carlow and were very fortunate that kilkenny uncharacteristically panicked in the closing stages of the leinster final trying for a goal, whereas if the took the easy point opportunities they probably would have won. Wexford played well against tipp - but still didnt win!

Hawkeye9212 wrote: »

Galway should have beat them in Salthill. Wexford are a good side but we'll see if they can maintain that when Davy leaves. I can't see him staying on much longer. I couldn't do that commute.

I agree - they are a fine side and are difficult to beat with their system.

But they have done nothing to justify being ranked 3rd/4th imo.

breezy1985 wrote: »

Leinster champions and all Ireland semi finalists. As rankings go thats gotta put you up there

They beat a kilkenny team that panicked in the closing stages of the leinster final last year. Who else did they defeat?

donnem33 wrote: »

They beat a kilkenny team that panicked in the closing stages of the leinster final last year. Who else did they defeat?

Limerick lost three times last year, where do you rank them???

donnem33 wrote: »

At least limerick were all Ireland champs in 2018 and are back to back league champs.

I'm aware rankings are subjective, i just dont understand how most people seem to have wexford above the likes of cork or galway - teams who are have consistently been in semi finals the past 5 years.

Wexford were seconds and a late lee chin free deep into injury time from being dumped out of leinster last year!

And so what? Just because they drew a tight match.

Your argument is not making any sense.

Rankings are based on recent form and Wexford’s last championship matches landed a Leinster title and then a thriller against the eventual All Ireland champions Tipp who completely wiped the floor with Kilkenny in the final.

That is what Wexford’s rankings are based on. Not because ‘they were seconds from being knocked out of Leinster’

If they have a crap year this winter their rankings would change next year. Obviously

Big games next weekend as anyone who is beatan could have to play 5 weekend's in a row to reach an All Ireland final, best scenario would be getting a bye in qualifiers round 1 followed by 3 weekends on the bounce, going the front door route has never been as valuable, even reaching a provincial final and getting beat looks like a better route.