Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

Happydays2020 · 05-10-2020 05:20PM

nacho libre wrote: »

So Tony wanted to let everyone know he is back:D The people getting upset earlier should have realised the government would reject the advice to go to level 5. Those recommending the restrictions probably knew well the government would do so, but are now happy that a compromise has been reached. It also means people who were complaining about the Government previously, will now side with it, and be a bit more accepting of level 3 restrictions nationwide, which was probably the plan all along.

Tony has damaged himself and NPHET. He was too impatient to make a statement. All he had to do was to highlight serious concerns all week and he would have got his greater enforcement and probably a mix of level 3 and level 4.

polesheep · 05-10-2020 05:20PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Yes as best I can, I have avoided any large gatherings, had close confirmations and weddings cancelled, is it too much for everyone to play their part and cop on during a deadly virus pandemic

As I said, we're all in glass houses.

Coybig_ · 05-10-2020 05:21PM

billybonkers wrote: »

Yes but people could have died from it and not known that was the cause of death if they were not tested....

My god.

People have died with it but been counted as having died from it. If anything the deaths are overblown.

We are now operating under the assumption that people who died could have had Covid, and that being a cause for fear. This is beyond all levels of sanity.

MerlinSouthDub · 05-10-2020 05:21PM

Raphael Damaged Timer wrote: »

As we were told last week this is the "plan" for 9 months. utter carnage.

And, what is the alternative? Zero covid? Impossible unless the UK do the same. Let the virus rip? Hardly palatable. We are approaching it the same way as the rest of Europe, and I guess every country is hoping that a vaccine will arrive sooner rather than later.

billybonkers · 05-10-2020 05:21PM

HeyV wrote: »

So, apart from what coverage this gets on the 6 o’clock news this evening, there is no brief being shown today?

No but expect something on 9 o clock news from MM. Only way they can get the message out if no briefing

tails_naf · 05-10-2020 05:21PM

Raphael Damaged Timer wrote: »

Your kids are in poorly ventilated overcrowded classrooms 8hrs a day. Outdoor training is a lot safer.

I completely agree, schools are not handing this well. Within 2 weeks of kids being back everyone in our house had a cold/cough/sniffles. Even got tested - it was negative, so just plain old back to school cold, but goes to show how weak and exposed the back to school plan is.

eagle eye · 05-10-2020 05:21PM

Plumbthedepths wrote:

Nphet's job is to offer advice it is the job of government to weigh up that advice with other factors. You seem to be confusing the meaning of advice and an order.

If a group of experts give a recommendation and you aren't going along with it you better have a damn good reason.

titan18 · 05-10-2020 05:22PM

polesheep wrote: »

You should hold that to a mirror.

You can socialise without having house parties.

Vinnie222 · 05-10-2020 05:23PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

I can't even get a book from the student library, I don't think students are where we should be looking.

Cause they are 2 busy holding parties

05-10-2020 05:24PM

eagle eye wrote: »

If a group of experts give a recommendation and you aren't going along with it you better have a damn good reason.

A group of experts providing only one data point for consideration by the government. If the government blindly followed NPHET then they aren’t fit for office

Given that NPHET have only one agenda, their advice should not be public IMO. It is just sowing more fear and division

Boggles · 05-10-2020 05:24PM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Tony has damaged himself and NPHET. He was too impatient to make a statement. All he had to do was to highlight serious concerns all week and he would have got his greater enforcement and probably a mix of level 3 and level 4.

Tony doesn't make the decisions.

A whole panel of people do.

The narrative that Tony was dancing around a cauldron naked last night plotting Level 5 for the country is absolute bat shít.

CalamariFritti · 05-10-2020 05:24PM

This thread is descending into a car crash.

Funsterdelux · 05-10-2020 05:24PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Wow

https://twitter.com/RoKhanna/status/1313145421657640962?s=20

But but but the White House cant close its borders....

caveat emptor · 05-10-2020 05:24PM

So if the government can discount NPHET's advice, can we not follow the gov's advice?
Advice is advice right. Take it or leave it by nature.

GeorgeBailey · 05-10-2020 05:24PM

Miike wrote: »

If Zara King brings up weddings I'm going to have a conniption :pac:

I know, right. Absolutely nobody cares about weddings. Nobody. Well ok, maybe the couples. And maybe their guests. And maybe people who rely on weddings for income. But other than that, definitely nobody.

JP Liz V1 · 05-10-2020 05:25PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Your constant posts about house parties and students suggest otherwise, but okay.

Students are not innocent here, the amount of house parties in college university cities is shocking, while I'm sure there is some students acting responsible others are not

Dayor Knight · 05-10-2020 05:25PM

Goldrickssan wrote: »

They answer to us not NPHET

Yes, they will have to answer to us.

They will have to account to us for their inaction and the deaths and personal devastation that will occur over their dithering.

Goldrickssan · 05-10-2020 05:25PM

20 hours since the NPHET leak and no communication from the government. It's turning into a farce.

ACitizenErased · 05-10-2020 05:26PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Students are not innocent here, the amount of house parties in college university cities is shocking, while I'm sure there is some students acting responsible others are not

Neither is anyone else.

Funsterdelux · 05-10-2020 05:26PM

CalamariFritti wrote: »

This thread is descending into a car crash.

Widdensushi · 05-10-2020 05:26PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

So if the government can discount NPHET's advice, can we not follow the gov's advice?
Advice is advice right. Take it or leave it by nature.

You can follow nphtet s advice

SleetAndSnow · 05-10-2020 05:26PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Students are not innocent here, the amount of house parties in college university cities is shocking, while I'm sure there is some students acting responsible others are not

Nobody is saying students are innocent, but you can't just keep using them (us) as an example when it is the same across all the age groups. Adults planning parties for the kids etc is nearly the exact same... as has been the cause for Donegal being so high if I remember

There are people in each part of society acting irresponsible, so if students can stop being used as the one example by people it would be great.

begbysback · 05-10-2020 05:27PM

Yay - fcuk level 5

MerlinSouthDub · 05-10-2020 05:27PM

Dayor Knight wrote: »

Yes, they will have to answer to us.

They will have to account to us for their inaction and the deaths and personal devastation that will occur over their dithering.

Dithering? They made a decision within hours of the NPHET recommendation.

Yes, the government will have to answer to us. They have made a balanced and appropriate decision.

iamwhoiam · 05-10-2020 05:27PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Yes as best I can, I have avoided any large gatherings, had close confirmations and weddings cancelled, is it too much for everyone to play their part and cop on during a deadly virus pandemic

Me too . Have kept well away from any crowds , avoided busy times in shops
Have been very careful who is in my house and played my part .
As have my friends and my siblings .

GT89 · 05-10-2020 05:27PM

John O.Groats wrote: »

And what about the anti vaxxer nutjobs that will refuse to take a vaccine should one be developed? What then?

If you get the vaccine it should be nothing to worry about for you. You are vaccinated = you are safe surely. If theyncatch covid that's their problem why do you even care?

JP Liz V1 · 05-10-2020 05:27PM

polesheep wrote: »

As I said, we're all in glass houses.

Well I'm not throwing large parties in my glass house or attending any

Renjit · 05-10-2020 05:28PM

Goldrickssan wrote: »

20 hours since the NPHET leak and no communication from the government. It's turning into a farce.

Caught between a rock and a hard place

Strumms · 05-10-2020 05:29PM

tails_naf wrote: »

On the topic of the GAA, my kids do camogie and while the local club and coaches are amazing, social distancing is nowhere in sight. While we're all avoiding one another like the (literal) plague, training sessions are full on, contact, group huddles, the works. It seems so strange my wife is spaced 2 meters apart, limited to 6 doing non contact dancing while GAA is a free for all.

Video it on your phone. Bring it to your local Garda station. Although they’d be all over it if it was the soccer lads but the GAA are usually a law unto themselves.

Sardonicat · 05-10-2020 05:29PM

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

Nobody is saying students are innocent, but you can't just keep using them (us) as an example when it is the same across all the age groups. Adults planning parties for the kids etc is nearly the exact same... as has been the cause for Donegal being so high if I remember

There are people in each part of society acting irresponsible, so if students can stop being used as the one example by people it would be great.

Communion/confirmation parties are playing a significant role in the spread.

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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