Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

Widdensushi

NPHET were acting too erratically to be blindly followed, can't go from saying level 3 is not needed on Thursday to level 5 on Sunday without adequately backing it up.

JP Liz V1

titan18 wrote: »

You can socialise without having house parties.

Yes and there is more to college life than house parties, on the sesh etc.,

caveat emptor

Data suggesting people want more restrains not fewer.

https://twitter.com/SiCarswell/status/1313094541717762050?s=20

John O.Groats

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Yes as best I can, I have avoided any large gatherings, had close confirmations and weddings cancelled, is it too much for everyone to play their part and cop on during a deadly virus pandemic

Unfortunately the answer to that would appear to be yes.

rob316

No more guidelines, strict enforcement from gardai. No one likes their liberties been impeded on but we need to protect people, jobs and businesses. We can avoid a further escalation if we get tough on enforcement.

rob316

caveat emptor wrote: »

Data suggesting people want more restrains not fewer.

https://twitter.com/SiCarswell/status/1313094541717762050?s=20

We all know the accuracy of polls :rolleyes:

Dayor Knight

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

Dithering? They made a decision within hours of the NPHET recommendation.

Yes, the government will have to answer to us. They have made a balanced and appropriate decision.

In your opinion. Not in mine.

And then let's see what happens next, like by the end of the week, and you'll see what I mean about dithering. Dithering over moving Dublin to a higher level when it's warranted by the available medical information. Waiting until we have a really serious situation before acting. Dithering about Dublin.

spookwoman

https://twitter.com/PaulQuinnNews/status/1313154822514839553?s=20

Drumpot

One thing that this has done is actually given the government the opportunity to bring in more stringent penalties for individuals flaunting the rules. They can Spin it that “it was either penalties or lockdown”.

SleetAndSnow

Drumpot wrote: »

One thing that this has done is actually given the government the opportunity to bring in more stringent penalties for individuals flaunting the rules. They can Spin it that “it was either penalties or lockdown”.

Will they though? Probably not

landofthetree

eagle eye wrote: »

They've all been in government before and already proven they are unfit for office.


This fear thing keeps getting mentioned by the anti-lockdown types.
I know loads of people who are very careful and have kept their kids a home and I don't see fear in any of them.
It seems to me that all the fear is on the anti-lockdown side of things. They get upset at bad news, get upset at any suggestion if restrictions and keep talking about people's mental health.
Well all I can tell you is that the people in in touch with who have remained in a lockdown is that they are all in good mental health, happy people with happy children.

A lot of people are in a bad way.

Not everyone can work from home. Not everyone had a garden to access during lockdown


Small businesses are really struggling. A second lockdown would finish off many.

Lockdown has been not so bad for many. If you can work from home you have a lot to be grateful for.

rob316

Widdensushi wrote: »

NPHET were acting too erratically to be blindly followed, can't go from saying level 3 is not needed on Thursday to level 5 on Sunday without adequately backing it up.

They destroyed any confidence the coalition had in them. I kept asking the same question how can your predictions and modelling change so much in 3 days.

CIARAN_BOYLE

GT89 wrote: »

If you get the vaccine it should be nothing to worry about for you. You are vaccinated = you are safe surely. If theyncatch covid that's their problem why do you even care?

Who knows what the efficacy of the vaccine will be? If it's like the flu vaccine a significant portion of people aren't effected by the vaccine and are relying on herd immunity from other people being vaccinated.

boggerman1

Strumms wrote: »

Video it on your phone. Bring it to your local Garda station. Although they’d be all over it if it was the soccer lads but the GAA are usually a law unto themselves.

Sick of the gaa bashing by the usual anti gaa/soccer crowd.any gaa thing I’ve been at locally everything done to the best of ways possible.plenty of crap going on all over and it’s not all the gaa fault.

Plumbthedepths

eagle eye wrote: »

If a group of experts give a recommendation and you aren't going along with it you better have a damn good reason.

I don't remember Holohans name or the rest of his team being on the ballot paper. Expert recommendadation worked out well for the nursing home sector if I remember correctly. As I said the government has to weigh up many factors. Nphet is focused on only one.

marno21

Surprised they're not moving Donegal to Level 4 here to be honest. It's ridiculous to have Mayo and Donegal on the same level when Donegal has TEN times the incidence rate.

CIARAN_BOYLE

rob316 wrote: »

They destroyed any confidence the coalition had in them. I kept asking the same question how can your predictions and modelling change so much in 3 days.

Someone was saying earlier in the thread that 100 cases from Saturday were in nursing homes.

If so it might make a big difference. But that information needs to be shared if it's there. Not one person saying it.

begbysback

spookwoman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PaulQuinnNews/status/1313154822514839553?s=20

So they found 1 doctor in all of Ireland

FintanMcluskey

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Who knows what the efficacy of the vaccine will be? If it's like the flu vaccine a significant portion of people aren't effected by the vaccine and are relying on herd immunity from other people being vaccinated.

So are people still going to die from Covid if there is
a vaccine?

eagle eye

Plumbthedepths wrote:

I don't remember Holohans name or the rest of his team being on the ballot paper. Expert recommendadation worked out well for the nursing home sector if I remember correctly. As I said the government has to weigh up many factors. Nphet is focused on only one.

Yes, NPHET is focused solely on the national health.
Where does that rank in your estimation?

Gradius

Oh the grand old leadership,
They had ten thousand cases,
They locked in the country and opened it up,
Then they had another ten thousand cases

And when numbers were up they were up,
And when numbers were down they were down,
And when they were only half way up,
The economy still went down

landofthetree

Drumpot wrote: »

One thing that this has done is actually given the government the opportunity to bring in more stringent penalties for individuals flaunting the rules. They can Spin it that “it was either penalties or lockdown”.

They will fine somebody for breaking a rule.

Hysterics will ensue and the government will climb down after be judged to be worse than the Nazis by the left wing opposition.

Rx713B

How we fixed for numbers today

CIARAN_BOYLE

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

So are people still going to die from Covid if there is
a vaccine?

Well we should have herd immunity if there's a vaccine if it works well.

If 90% of people get the vaccine and it works on 70% of people we should have herd immunity and outbreaks should be small and rare.

That said yeah there can still be deaths after we have a vaccine. Between antivax and those that the vaccine doesn't work on there can still be outbreaks.

Funsterdelux

Gradius wrote: »

Oh the grand old Duke of Cork?
They had ten thousand cases,
They locked in the country and opened it up,
Then they had another ten thousand cases

And when numbers were up they were up,
And when numbers were down they were down,
And when they were only half way up,
The economy still went down

Russman

Does this now put us up with the Trump and BoJo administrations in ignoring the medical experts and scientists ? Rarified air indeed.
Have we lost the right to ridicule Trump for ignoring Fauci ?

Dayor Knight

Let's see what happens when the silent majority who want their people protected start to speak up and start telling their representatives what they think of them. Most of the noise these few days is being made by the deniers. The virus doesn't care if you want your nice life back. It will take your life and that of others. Especially the old and weakest. It will also wreak havoc on some younger lives.

Mind yourself carefully for the next six months because this virus is on the march, and your government appears no longer interested in keeping you alive. Because some people have to party.

nimrod86

Drumpot wrote: »

One thing that this has done is actually given the government the opportunity to bring in more stringent penalties for individuals flaunting the rules. They can Spin it that “it was either penalties or lockdown”.

At the end of the day though, they're the government - They set the rules, they set the punishments. They know what's at stake, they don't need to spin it any way. They need to give the Gardai a big stick to keep the people flouting the rules in line.

Micháel needs to step up and lead, or feck off out of the way. This bumbling and delaying is doing nothing for anyone.

HeyV

marno21 wrote: »

Surprised they're not moving Donegal to Level 4 here to be honest. It's ridiculous to have Mayo and Donegal on the same level when Donegal has TEN times the incidence rate.

But like many counties, Donegal or the other top infected counties weren’t in the news a while back. Most had small numbers and then just seemed to snowball.
The counties today with low numbers could be the very same way in a week or so.
Bloody curse of a disease!

stephenjmcd

https://twitter.com/SeanDefoe/status/1313157365873750016?s=19