Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

TexasTornado · 05-10-2020 10:12AM

Level 5 or no level 5 the elephant in the room is the schools and the colleges.

tobefrank321 · 05-10-2020 10:12AM

So shut down rural pubs and businesses that contribute little or nothing to new cases.

But leave open colleges where all the house parties are happening.

Even the Swedes had the sense to close colleges during the peak.

Boggles · 05-10-2020 10:13AM

blowitupref wrote: »

Thursday morning had 122 in hospital and 20 in ICU.

Increase of 28 and 1 hardly the need to have every county jump from level 2 to 5.

Yes and those people got infected 10-14 days ago. Maybe even longer.

We have 2300 infections in the past 5 days with the growth rate increasing.

TexasTornado · 05-10-2020 10:16AM

Boggles wrote: »

150 confirmed cases in hospital 15 admission in the last 24 hours.

The situation has obviously rapidly deteriorated since Thursday. We have had about 2300 cases in the past 5 days, approaching a 500 a day average.

I imagine 50-50 if we get a briefing this evening.

Huge increase, no denying that.

Hooked · 05-10-2020 10:16AM

So... 6 months on we've learned that 95% of those who died had underlying medical conditions...and 93% were over 65 years old...

This virus has killed 126 "under 65 year olds" (may they rest in peace). Cancer kills that many people in FIVE DAYS!!!

But.. lets just properly DESTROY the whole bloody country once and for all. :mad:

Because, F0çK knows... we did shag all to improve our shambolic healthcare system in those 6 months.

ThunbergsAreGo · 05-10-2020 10:16AM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Poster boy/girl New Zealand 'defeats' the virus again..

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/new-zealand-declares-it-beat-the-virus-again-as-auckland-comes-out-of-second-lockdown-39588608.html

It's like telling all your mates you are having the time of your life living in the panic room in the basement of your house.

In a depressing day, this made me laugh :cool:

Boggles · 05-10-2020 10:17AM

Hooked wrote: »

So... 6 months on we've learned that 95% of those who died had underlying medical conditions...and 93% were over 65 years old...

6 months on and people still haven't learned that deaths are not the primary concern.

TonyMaloney · 05-10-2020 10:18AM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I'm struggling to see how schools would be able to remain open if serious about suppression.

One thing is for certain things can't stay as they are. The situation accelerates due to lack of sufficient counter measures and enforcement.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1313040225124470785

This is not all a governance problem. There are a small minority in this country who have behaved recklessly and not followed the rules. People are right to call them out but we need enforcement.

Yeah, I'm finding that weird. Even if not a disaster, it will keep a certain amount of transmission going.

There is a mid-term coming up. Perhaps they could extend it a bit so it would be 2 weeks of level 5 and then another 2 weeks of level 5 but with schools closed.

Sardonicat · 05-10-2020 10:19AM

Boggles wrote: »

Yes and those people got infected 10-14 days ago. Maybe even longer.

We have 2300 infections in the past 5 days with the growth rate increasing.

Is it that some people do not have the capacity to project? Like toddlers they have to be told what to do because they struggle to grasp reality beyond what is directly in front of them and just like toddlers they tantrum when they can't do what they want because they can't see the danger in it.

snotboogie · 05-10-2020 10:19AM

Hooked wrote: »

So... 6 months on we've learned that 95% of those who died had underlying medical conditions...and 93% were over 65 years old...

This virus has killed 126 "under 65 year olds" (may they rest in peace). Cancer kills that many people in FIVE DAYS!!!

But.. lets just properly DESTROY the whole bloody country once and for all. :mad:

Because, F0çK knows... we did shag all to improve our shambolic healthcare system in those 6 months.

An underlying condition does not imply a terminal underlying condition. Diabetes is an underlying condition.

boggerman1 · 05-10-2020 10:22AM

Michael McNamara calling out nephet on the radio.this madness has to be called out

froog · 05-10-2020 10:23AM

snotboogie wrote: »

An underlying condition does not imply a terminal underlying condition. Diabetes is an underlying condition.

the narrative from these people is that all the deaths were from people that would have died in a few days anyway. that's how they convince themselves COVID is not a problem. delusion of the highest order.

is_that_so · 05-10-2020 10:23AM

Hooked wrote: »

Because, F0çK knows... we did shag all to improve our shambolic healthcare system in those 6 months.

Make that 30 years. Not a whole lot that could be done with a behemoth like the HSE in that time apart from crisis management. Problems stretch far and wide in it and a lot of them are not money but they do have a surge/contingency plan.

Boggles · 05-10-2020 10:24AM

boggerman1 wrote: »

Michael McNamara calling out nephet on the radio.this madness has to be called out

Yes, exactly what we need right now, that absolute bollíx ranting and raving to rile up his twitter followers.

sideswipe · 05-10-2020 10:24AM

TexasTornado wrote: »

Level 5 or no level 5 the elephant in the room is the schools and the colleges.

Close the wet schools and just leave the schools that serve food open?

Non solum non ambulabit · 05-10-2020 10:24AM

John O.Groats wrote: »

That option was tried and is not having the desired effect so a minimum level 4 on a countrywide basis is necessary unfortunately mainly due to the fcukwits.

Level 4 won't stop f@ckwits. Only destroys economy. Transmission is in family homes. No level is going to stop that.

caveat emptor · 05-10-2020 10:24AM

exponential total cases

6034073

Widdensushi · 05-10-2020 10:25AM

Hooked wrote: »

So... 6 months on we've learned that 95% of those who died had underlying medical conditions...and 93% were over 65 years old...

This virus has killed 126 "under 65 year olds" (may they rest in peace). Cancer kills that many people in FIVE DAYS!!!

But.. lets just properly DESTROY the whole bloody country once and for all. :mad:

Because, F0çK knows... we did shag all to improve our shambolic healthcare system in those 6 months.

That 105 year old could have hung on for another 6 months

Jinglejangle69 · 05-10-2020 10:26AM

Sam Mconkey is unbearable.

is_that_so · 05-10-2020 10:27AM

boggerman1 wrote: »

Michael McNamara calling out nephet on the radio.this madness has to be called out

Had they recommended immediate changes to Levels 3 & 4 with a warning that further measures might be needed soon, the conversation would be different. Instead they caught everyone on the hop with a Level 5 plan for four weeks on a Sunday evening. Very badly handled.

stephenjmcd · 05-10-2020 10:29AM

https://twitter.com/BryanNewsatOne/status/1313045011785711616?s=19

scrumqueen · 05-10-2020 10:30AM

Paddygreen wrote: »

But why would you even want to? It’s so scary out there,

Bit of perspective please, this kind of hyperbole does no one any favours.

Yes, caution should be paramount but caution should be wearing your mask and keeping your distance and not travelling unnecessarily.

Paddygreen wrote: »

We can do everything online, even our jobs. We don’t have to leave our houses guys,

No, we cant, there are some industries SMEs and sectors that will be decimated by a L4 not to mention a L5.

Paddygreen wrote: »

we are all in this together.

LOL. Not since the nationwide lockdown lifted we haven't. Its everyone out for themselves now, evident by the numbers an blatant disregard for the guidelines we see everywhere every day.

TexasTornado · 05-10-2020 10:30AM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Sam Mconkey is unbearable.

Really like him tbh. He's calm and to the point.

JDD · 05-10-2020 10:31AM

Widdensushi wrote: »

That 105 year old could have hung on for another 6 months

*Sigh* Once more onto the breach...

Lockdowns are not about preventing deaths. Lockdowns are not about preventing ICU admissions. Lockdowns are about reducing hospital admissions.

Repeat ad nauseum.

Does anyone know what our ICU and hospital bed capacity at the moment is? There used to be a useful infographic that showed available covid beds with how many of them are currently occupied. They don't seem to publish that infographic anymore.

Also, does anyone know whether we still have an additional surge capacity in ICU/hospital beds or is that only available if we shut down the remainder of the health system like we did in March?

stephenjmcd · 05-10-2020 10:31AM

Dan O Brian on radio 1 saying shutting down the economy again has the country on a trajectory to require another bailout

is_that_so · 05-10-2020 10:31AM

TexasTornado wrote: »

Really like him tbh. He's calm and to the point.

It's usually a different point every time!

TexasTornado · 05-10-2020 10:32AM

boggerman1 wrote: »

Michael McNamara calling out nephet on the radio.this madness has to be called out

He came across as an utter loon tbh.

Sardonicat · 05-10-2020 10:32AM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

Level 4 won't stop f@ckwits. Only destroys economy. Transmission is in family homes. No level is going to stop that.

So you don't think keeping people at home and stopping visits between homes will stop transmission in homes? Okay....

Plumbthedepths · 05-10-2020 10:32AM

TexasTornado wrote: »

Really like him tbh. He's calm and to the point.

Clearly then you never listened to him so.

tobefrank321 · 05-10-2020 10:32AM

Sardonicat wrote: »

Is it that some people do not have the capacity to project? Like toddlers they have to be told what to do because they struggle to grasp reality beyond what is directly in front of them and just like toddlers they tantrum when they can't do what they want because they can't see the danger in it.

Toddlers my arse.

More like adults asking questions like why the government/HSE/NPHET haven't prepared for the INEVITABLE second wave.

ICU capacity now appears to be lower than in April.

The City West facility was decommissioned even though everyone knew what was coming.

Now they've been caught out with an unexpected rise (they seem not to have expected it), haven't prepared properly and need to shut everything down.

Its a shambles.

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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