Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - Read OP for Mod Warnings

CruelSummer · 29-09-2020 12:18AM

https://twitter.com/eddiehoarefg/status/1310697801211351040?s=21

Literally using groups of young people socialising outdoors as justification for level 3...they’re doing this all the time behind closed doors.
Where is the actual data justifying increased restrictions?
How many hospitalisations are in Galway currently?
How many ICU beds are taken up with Covid?

Strumms · 29-09-2020 12:54AM

road_high wrote: »

Subtle ostracisation of anyone that gets Covid - it’s your behaviours what done it and your own fault!

You want to swing that interpretation on it fine and dandy

Many people get it as a result of the behavior of others and not themselves. Many too get it due to their own negligence.... being needy pricks and disassociating their want and needs from what’s ‘right’

It’s the (others) that are the issue, the ones determined to continue life as normal when things are as abnormal as they’ve been since about the start of last century...

Quantum Erasure · 29-09-2020 05:15AM

Dayor Knight wrote: »

We're not a herd for a start. A term normally used for animals.

were not crystalised solid water either, but sometimes some of us can be awful snowflakes...

stephenjmcd · 29-09-2020 06:55AM

Strumms wrote: »

You want to swing that interpretation on it fine and dandy

Many people get it as a result of the behavior of others and not themselves. Many too get it due to their own negligence.... being needy pricks and disassociating their want and needs from what’s ‘right’

It’s the (others) that are the issue, the ones determined to continue life as normal when things are as abnormal as they’ve been since about the start of last century...

I think if multiple posters see what your saying its hardly putting an interpretation on it when its quite clear what your stating.

Both of your points still come back to negligence and how it has to be someones fault. The blame game or in your words "Needy pricks".

Christ no wonder people would be reluctant to come forward for testing with this sort of attitude being prevelant.

So much for everyone being in this together with posts that are condescending like this.

Idbatterim · 29-09-2020 07:20AM

Sick pf the likes of that post by the councillor, just to try and boost his own profile! Get back to blocking housing and making traffic worse you absolute dose!

patnor1011 · 29-09-2020 07:22AM

Strumms wrote: »

You want to swing that interpretation on it fine and dandy

Many people get it as a result of the behavior of others and not themselves. Many too get it due to their own negligence.... being needy pricks and disassociating their want and needs from what’s ‘right’

It’s the (others) that are the issue, the ones determined to continue life as normal when things are as abnormal as they’ve been since about the start of last century...

It can be also said that people (like you for example) who require others to behave in a way that they will not pose risk to them are needy pricks too.

There is a way to be "safe" if you so strongly desire that. Start cocooning, cease all unnecessary contacts with other people and wait it out.

_Kaiser_ · 29-09-2020 07:59AM

I really should stop listening to the radio in the morning.

- next 2 weeks are critical
- more counties being threatened with lockdown
- rolling restrictions for at least the next 6 months (with notifications from the Indo and IT to reinforce it)
- selective statistics from hospitals
- another interview with the small number of people who suffer after effects of infection
- businesses under threat

.. And that's only in an hour! It's no wonder many are terrified of this virus. You'd think it was a flesh eating bacteria from all this, not the non-issue it is for 95% of the population.

beggars_bush · 29-09-2020 08:03AM

Lundstram wrote: »

What an embarrassment of a national broadcaster.

Can every please stop paying their license fee and let them fold.

Licence inspector doing the rounds here lately
Actually considered putting tv in ahed for a few months

_Kaiser_ · 29-09-2020 08:18AM

From the Indo..

Asked about what happens next if Dublin and Donegal manage to bring the virus under control, Dr Glynn said: "If you are asking, do we go back to normal after this, no we won't. We will have to continue to suppress this.

"I don't believe there is an alternative strategy as things stand. Things can change. There is unbelievable work going on in terms of treatments, vaccines and different types of tests. But we are not quite there yet.

"I hope news of that will evolve between now and Christmas but ultimately I think we are looking at a six- to nine-month timeframe here."

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/rolling-lockdowns-a-way-of-life-for-up-to-nine-months-as-more-counties-suffer-rise-in-covid-19-cases-39571393.html

There you have it folks. Our unelected, out-of-his-depth, medical overlord has no interest in getting the country back to normal, and is so suffering from tunnel vision that he can't see any alternative to the current hugely damaging "strategy", pinning all his efforts on a vaccine that may not arrive for years if at all.

And this is the guy advising a weak fractured Government that is so poor it has Eamon Ryan as a minister :rolleyes: so no leadership or real pushback expected there!

How long before we start seeing Irish Water-style mass protests I wonder, because I think what we've seen already will only increase as the financial, social and mental health impacts get worse over the next few months

bloopy · 29-09-2020 08:21AM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

I really should stop listening to the radio in the morning.

- next 2 weeks are critical
- more counties being threatened with lockdown
- rolling restrictions for at least the next 6 months (with notifications from the Indo and IT to reinforce it)
- selective statistics from hospitals
- another interview with the small number of people who suffer after effects of infection
- businesses under threat

.. And that's only in an hour! It's no wonder many are terrified of this virus. You'd think it was a flesh eating bacteria from all this, not the non-issue it is for 95% of the population.

Irish media, and RTE in particular, only trade in fear now.
It is easy and cheap news.

29-09-2020 08:27AM

CruelSummer wrote: »

https://twitter.com/eddiehoarefg/status/1310697801211351040?s=21

Literally using groups of young people socialising outdoors as justification for level 3...they’re doing this all the time behind closed doors.
Where is the actual data justifying increased restrictions?
How many hospitalisations are in Galway currently?
How many ICU beds are taken up with Covid?

I was just coming here to post about that disgraceful behaviour and say how it clearly shows level 3 or more is needed to curb these idiotic gatherings.

Every single person in the group is a moron, brain dead fools. Should all be expelled from their university. Not even an ounce of respect for the fact we are in the middle of a pandemic, can’t believe I’ve come in here to find someone defending it people really have lost the plot.

About 10 different people have WhatsApp’d me that pic and commenting how is an absolute disgrace. We need to give the guards power to hit these financially and the universities need to kick them out.m

The anti restriction posters really are blind and deaf to the situation we are in, pure selfish and don’t give a damn really that we simply should not be mixing with other people at all or they simply don’t understand how serious this virus is.

stephenjmcd · 29-09-2020 08:35AM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

From the Indo..

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/rolling-lockdowns-a-way-of-life-for-up-to-nine-months-as-more-counties-suffer-rise-in-covid-19-cases-39571393.html

There you have it folks. Our unelected, out-of-his-depth, medical overlord has no interest in getting the country back to normal, and is so suffering from tunnel vision that he can't see any alternative to the current hugely damaging "strategy", pinning all his efforts on a vaccine that may not arrive for years if at all.

And this is the guy advising a weak fractured Government that is so poor it has Eamon Ryan as a minister :rolleyes: so no leadership or real pushback expected there!

How long before we start seeing Irish Water-style mass protests I wonder, because I think what we've seen already will only increase as the financial, social and mental health impacts get worse over the next few months

I'd say he means in the context of if/when Dublin & Donegal come out of level 3 and back to level 2 that people shouldn't change their behaviour because they'll just end up back in level 3 again if everyone goes about their business as normal.

Things will eventually go back to normal after a vaccine hopefully

29-09-2020 08:40AM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

How long before we start seeing Irish Water-style mass protests I wonder, because I think what we've seen already will only increase as the financial, social and mental health impacts get worse over the next few months

You would need a “mass” of people supporting this to have a mass protest, the vast vast majority of people fully understand that the restrictions are necessary and fully support them. You only have a small number of clueless anti-restriction lunatics and the Gardai will stop their small protests fairly lively.

average_runner · 29-09-2020 08:41AM

patnor1011 wrote: »

It can be also said that people (like you for example) who require others to behave in a way that they will not pose risk to them are needy pricks too.

There is a way to be "safe" if you so strongly desire that. Start cocooning, cease all unnecessary contacts with other people and wait it out.

The mess we are in now, is down to the people of our country and only us.
We can help stop the spreading of the virus and if we lead by example we can avoid these restrictions and open up fully.

People keep saying the young need to get on with their lives, i agree but there won't be anything to get on with unless we get out of this mess and behaving the way we are won't solve this.

Right now instead of working together we working against each other.

Happydays2020 · 29-09-2020 08:43AM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

I was just coming here to post about that disgraceful behaviour and say how it clearly shows level 3 or more is needed to curb these idiotic gatherings.

Every single person in the group is a moron, brain dead fools. Should all be expelled from their university. Not even an ounce of respect for the fact we are in the middle of a pandemic, can’t believe I’ve come in here to find someone defending it people really have lost the plot.

About 10 different people have WhatsApp’d me that pic and commenting how is an absolute disgrace. We need to give the guards power to hit these financially and the universities need to kick them out.m

The anti restriction posters really are blind and deaf to the situation we are in, pure selfish and don’t give a damn really that we simply should not be mixing with other people at all or they simply don’t understand how serious this virus is.

Is level 3 good enough punishment for that behaviour. Should level 4 be considered? City only or the full county?

Zebra3 · 29-09-2020 08:45AM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

I really should stop listening to the radio in the morning.

- next 2 weeks are critical
- more counties being threatened with lockdown
- rolling restrictions for at least the next 6 months (with notifications from the Indo and IT to reinforce it)
- selective statistics from hospitals
- another interview with the small number of people who suffer after effects of infection
- businesses under threat

.. And that's only in an hour! It's no wonder many are terrified of this virus. You'd think it was a flesh eating bacteria from all this, not the non-issue it is for 95% of the population.

And all this after another day of zero deaths. :rolleyes:

average_runner · 29-09-2020 08:51AM

Zebra3 wrote: »

And all this after another day of zero deaths. :rolleyes:

Is it zero deaths because we blocked off the elderly from the real world?
Is it zero deaths because I can't take a parent out of a nursing home to see her grand children?

Is the zero deaths because elderly can't mind their grand children after school when they want to?

Do we just continue to imprison the vulnerable people and not help them at all?

Zebra3 · 29-09-2020 08:56AM

average_runner wrote: »

Is it zero deaths because we blocked off the elderly from the real world?
Is it zero deaths because I can't take a parent out of a nursing home to see her grand children?

Is the zero deaths because elderly can't mind their grand children after school when they want to?

Do we just continue to imprison the vulnerable people and not help them at all?

Will it be zero deaths from cancer as cancer screening times get pushed out?

Will it be zero deaths from suicide as they economy continues to crumble?

Vulnerable people need to look after themselves regardless of whether or not the economy is open or closed.

weldoninhio · 29-09-2020 08:58AM

average_runner wrote: »

Is it zero deaths because we blocked off the elderly from the real world?
Is it zero deaths because I can't take a parent out of a nursing home to see her grand children?

Is the zero deaths because elderly can't mind their grand children after school when they want to?

Do we just continue to imprison the vulnerable people and not help them at all?

Hmmmm

Lockdown a tiny percentage of people and let the economy get on with it.

OR

Lockdown all of the people and let the economy collapse.

Only an idiot picks option B

polesheep · 29-09-2020 08:59AM

CruelSummer wrote: »

https://twitter.com/eddiehoarefg/status/1310697801211351040?s=21

Literally using groups of young people socialising outdoors as justification for level 3...they’re doing this all the time behind closed doors.
Where is the actual data justifying increased restrictions?
How many hospitalisations are in Galway currently?
How many ICU beds are taken up with Covid?

I said months ago that they couldn't keep young people suppressed for long. The herd has moved on... thankfully.

pjohnson · 29-09-2020 09:01AM

polesheep wrote: »

I said months ago that they couldn't keep young people suppressed for long. The herd has moved on... thankfully.

Then stop complaining about the economy. The young are having their fun regardless of the economic damage they cause so thats something to be thankfull for?

Zebra3 · 29-09-2020 09:02AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Hmmmm

Lockdown a tiny percentage of people and let the economy get on with it.

OR

Lockdown all of the people and let the economy collapse.

Only an idiot picks option B

A selfish idiot at that.

polesheep · 29-09-2020 09:02AM

Strumms wrote: »

You want to swing that interpretation on it fine and dandy

Many people get it as a result of the behavior of others and not themselves. Many too get it due to their own negligence.... being needy pricks and disassociating their want and needs from what’s ‘right’

It’s the (others) that are the issue, the ones determined to continue life as normal when things are as abnormal as they’ve been since about the start of last century...

From what you deem to be right, you mean. The tail has wagged the dog for long enough. As is always the case, it's young people that are bringing change and good luck to them.

average_runner · 29-09-2020 09:04AM

Zebra3 wrote: »

Will it be zero deaths from cancer as cancer screening times get pushed out?

Will it be zero deaths from suicide as they economy continues to crumble?

Vulnerable people need to look after themselves regardless of whether or not the economy is open or closed.

Hospital treatments are back on, but if the cases keep rising they will stop, so that is one reason for us to halt the spread.

Suicide also happens when love ones die, incase you haven't noticed. So far there is no rise in number of suicide death in 2020 compare to 2019.

Its our job to look after the vunlerable and our job to look after the elderly. They deserved that considering most of them work their hearts out to get us to college, to get us an education, given us an easier up bringing than they had.

Its our turn to look after them, they looked after us long enough.

Doesn't mean lockdown but it also doesn't mean we behave like we don't care which we are right now

polesheep · 29-09-2020 09:06AM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

I was just coming here to post about that disgraceful behaviour and say how it clearly shows level 3 or more is needed to curb these idiotic gatherings.

Every single person in the group is a moron, brain dead fools. Should all be expelled from their university. Not even an ounce of respect for the fact we are in the middle of a pandemic, can’t believe I’ve come in here to find someone defending it people really have lost the plot.

About 10 different people have WhatsApp’d me that pic and commenting how is an absolute disgrace. We need to give the guards power to hit these financially and the universities need to kick them out.m

The anti restriction posters really are blind and deaf to the situation we are in, pure selfish and don’t give a damn really that we simply should not be mixing with other people at all or they simply don’t understand how serious this virus is.

You are correct there. More and more young people don't give a damn about your continual nagging at them to suppress their lives indefinitely because you are not willing to suppress yours.

weldoninhio · 29-09-2020 09:07AM

pjohnson wrote: »

Then stop complaining about the economy. The young are having their fun regardless of the economic damage they cause so thats something to be thankfull for?

Young people aren’t doing any economic damage. Our government is doing all the damage

average_runner · 29-09-2020 09:07AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Hmmmm

Lockdown a tiny percentage of people and let the economy get on with it.

OR

Lockdown all of the people and let the economy collapse.

Only an idiot picks option B

Where did i say lockdown was the answer?

polesheep · 29-09-2020 09:07AM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

You would need a “mass” of people supporting this to have a mass protest, the vast vast majority of people fully understand that the restrictions are necessary and fully support them. You only have a small number of clueless anti-restriction lunatics and the Gardai will stop their small protests fairly lively.

The tide has turned. Thanks to young people.

weldoninhio · 29-09-2020 09:08AM

average_runner wrote: »

Hospital treatments are back on, but if the cases keep rising they will stop, so that is one reason for us to halt the spread.

Suicide also happens when love ones die, incase you haven't noticed. So far there is no rise in number of suicide death in 2020 compare to 2019.

Its our job to look after the vunlerable and our job to look after the elderly. They deserved that considering most of them work their hearts out to get us to college, to get us an education, given us an easier up bringing than they had.

Its our turn to look after them, they looked after us long enough.

Doesn't mean lockdown but it also doesn't mean we behave like we don't care which we are right now

No rise??? Where are you getting your figures from?? This will be interesting,

average_runner · 29-09-2020 09:08AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Young people aren’t doing any economic damage. Our government is doing all the damage

Keep dreaming mate. We are only in lockdown because we can't behave.

We can't follow guidelines like the Swedes, sure you are having house parties, not doing that in Sweden

Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - Read OP for Mod Warnings