CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03

nacho libre · 27-03-2020 11:24PM

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

I agree with this, it's why I'm worried about inflation in the long run from the massive money printing because of the fallout from this. What the alternative though?

Quantative easing worked before. It will be very tough, but the economy will recover, despite what the doom merchants are saying

threeball · 27-03-2020 11:25PM

ECB need to step up now and inject at least 1bn per 1million of population in the next few weeks to ease pressure on countries and allow an economic bounce back.

fly_agaric · 27-03-2020 11:25PM

doc22 wrote: »

To be honest I don't think the government act great at all. Nursing Homes and Hospital groups were criticized when they acted unilaterally tightening up rules on visitors rather then waiting for gov guidance(how it wasn't necessary) and now we hear of all these clusters around these two sectors.

I remember that. It was just an impression/opinion but I think they didn't like being "bounced" like that even when (IMO) it was right.
The people running the response to this (NPHET, Department of Heath?) seem to want to maintain control of the measures being introduced.

Blaze420 · 27-03-2020 11:25PM

kilkenny31 wrote: »

Social systems. Not social welfare. I mean health, housing, childcare, mental health, care of the elderly etc etc.

We do pretty well on all those fronts imo

ziggyman17 · 27-03-2020 11:25PM

I find it strange that the goverment did not contact BOARDS.IE and get the brains that are posting on the CoVid19 thread to sort out this problem, reading all these threads and a I am amazed at the amount of expert geniuses that have come together in this site, they would put the geniuses of the history of the world to shame,

Cilldara_2000 · 27-03-2020 11:25PM

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

I agree with this, it's why I'm worried about inflation in the long run from the massive money printing because of the fallout from this. What's the alternative though?

There won't be massive inflation. There might be some inflation. We could do with some inflation. Even neo-liberal Chicago and Austrian school economists like 2% inflation. Inflation has been well below 2% for ages.

Also, if most businesses are closed, how could the prices for most things go up?

jam_mac_jam · 27-03-2020 11:26PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Going by some of the stupid posts on here come next Tuesday they will be banning all outside travel except for shopping and chemists
Some real selfish people posting - we're trying to save lives and some are more bothered about themselves and arguing the semantics of a 2km exercise zone - to you know stop potential positive cases spreading it to other areas
Should have said no more than 500m from your house!

Exactly the rules don't apply to me because I run or I have a dog or because I'm special.

Just follow the rules you absolute fXxxing babies.

Jinglejangle69 · 27-03-2020 11:26PM

A good few days of rain would slow this virus down.

ITman88 · 27-03-2020 11:26PM

kilkenny31 wrote: »

Social systems. Not social welfare. I mean health, housing, childcare, mental health, care of the elderly etc etc.

At present we have had fantastic levels of care for the above tho, what could we have improved on?

An Ri rua · 27-03-2020 11:26PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

Because after midnight tonight they are not legally permitted to change legislation. It must be done by a newly formed government. This is another mess we could really do without now

Why after midnight? The Seanad election doesn't close until the 31st. Are you not voting in it?

27-03-2020 11:26PM

kilkenny31 wrote: »

Yeah. Or at least governments will concentrate on making sure the regular guy on the street is looked after.

I mentioned this the other day but people should take the time to listen to David McWilliams podcast the other night. It's inspiring stuff. I know this is a horrible time but a lot of good will eventually come from this. These events are like big reset buttons, everything changes afterwards. It's like WW2 happened and a continent that had almost continuous wars going back through history devised a system that brought relative peace and prosperity for decades now.
I think this will be seen as the time that governments realise that people will no longer accept crap social systems and healthcare and government services. The government will be forced to look after its citizens.

Almost like a Great Awakening

scamalert · 27-03-2020 11:27PM

kilkenny31 wrote: »

Yeah. Or at least governments will concentrate on making sure the regular guy on the street is looked after.

I mentioned this the other day but people should take the time to listen to David McWilliams podcast the other night. It's inspiring stuff. I know this is a horrible time but a lot of good will eventually come from this. These events are like big reset buttons, everything changes afterwards. It's like WW2 happened and a continent that had almost continuous wars going back through history devised a system that brought relative peace and prosperity for decades now.
I think this will be seen as the time that governments realise that people will no longer accept crap social systems and healthcare and government services. The government will be forced to look after its citizens.

this $hit is so wrong in so many ways by the people who know 0 F about history and aftermath that followed once the war was over, hope you get potato couch medal for bravery thou.

Nermal · 27-03-2020 11:27PM

Red for Danger wrote: »

The perfectly healthy with no underlying conditions death count is starting to grow

Anecdotes don't grow into data.

Funsterdelux · 27-03-2020 11:28PM

sudzs wrote: »

I think I might quite like to be cocooned

Mmmm Steve Guttenburg

tobefrank321 · 27-03-2020 11:28PM

Hunky Monster wrote: »

On the list of essential workers...

I'm willing to bet that all american pharma/medical device companies here will stay open even if they've NOTHING to do with helping the situation. Money money money.

They contribute coporation tax which is essential at the moment.

martingriff · 27-03-2020 11:28PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

I keep thinking that I may have seen my parents IRL for the last time

Ya I am the same was here for the weekend and having to go home. Do not know when I will see them

ITman88 · 27-03-2020 11:29PM

scamalert wrote: »

this $hit is so wrong in so many ways by the people who know 0 F about history and aftermath that followed once the war was over, hope you get potato couch medal for bravery thou.

I don’t why I laughed so much at this!

kingtiger · 27-03-2020 11:29PM

Varadkar is the weakest ineffectual Taoiseach we have ever had, flip flopping around like a fish that has just been caught

come out and be strong ffs and say it as it is

Should be

€500 fine if you have no valid excuse for being out

and just don't stop there €1k for parents of teenagers caught hanging around on the street with their mates

igCorcaigh · 27-03-2020 11:29PM

Jake1 wrote: »

Almost like a Great Awakening

Yes, I have a sense of great change coming.
Hopefully it won't just go back to BAU, it can't, can it.

odyssey06 · 27-03-2020 11:29PM

ziggyman17 wrote: »

I find it strange that the goverment did not contact BOARDS.IE and get the brains that are posting on the CoVid19 thread to sort out this problem, reading all these threads and a I am amazed at the amount of expert geniuses that have come together in this site, they would put the geniuses of the history of the world to shame,

On the other hand, if the government wants to know the reaction of the plain people of Ireland to the measures, we are providing an important public service

ChikiChiki · 27-03-2020 11:29PM

I like a run and have been running up until today on open wide spaces with not too many people.

But I'll take one for the team and try YouTube workouts for 2 weeks anyway. Literally need to stay at home as much as possible given the severity.

I suppose being out just encourages others to be out. Can't do a whole lot of running in 2 km anyway.

Sam Hain · 27-03-2020 11:29PM

topper75 wrote: »

I'm sorry you ended up with that nasty experience through no fault of your own but you just sound angry. A runner keeping their distance didn't give you anything regardless of how far they ran. People should always question what they are told to do and why they are told to do it, especially when the given 'why' is vague or non-existant.
I WON'T be complying with the 2km thing unless somebody can rationally explain how it increases the risk of me spreading the virus. I don't fear any police action in Ireland for obvious reasons.
It's a personal thing for which I carry full responsibility, as with all my decisions and actions.

What do you not understand about our current predictament? Your're embarrassing yourself at this stage.

Mervyn Skidmore · 27-03-2020 11:29PM

ziggyman17 wrote: »

I find it strange that the goverment did not contact BOARDS.IE and get the brains that are posting on the CoVid19 thread to sort out this problem, reading all these threads and a I am amazed at the amount of expert geniuses that have come together in this site, they would put the geniuses of the history of the world to shame,

kilkenny31 · 27-03-2020 11:29PM

Blaze420 wrote: »

We do pretty well on all those fronts imo

Really. So you think the trolly crisis every winter is doing pretty well. Or the fact that people wait a year to see a consultant.Or the fact that record numbers of people are homeless because for decades now the government has let the market decide where and what houses should be built. Ireland has been good at getting the people to work. It's been terrible at caring for its people. Up to now. What I've seen in the last month has given me so much hope.

tommythecat · 27-03-2020 11:29PM

topper75 wrote: »

I'm sorry you ended up with that nasty experience through no fault of your own but you just sound angry. A runner keeping their distance didn't give you anything regardless of how far they ran. People should always question what they are told to do and why they are told to do it, especially when the given 'why' is vague or non-existant.
I WON'T be complying with the 2km thing unless somebody can rationally explain how it increases the risk of me spreading the virus. I don't fear any police action in Ireland for obvious reasons.
It's a personal thing for which I carry full responsibility, as with all my decisions and actions.

Good Jesus. Have a word with yourself will you. Read your post back and tell me that you don't sound like a self entitled prick. Stay at home and wash your hands.

Funsterdelux · 27-03-2020 11:29PM

ziggyman17 wrote: »

I find it strange that the goverment did not contact BOARDS.IE and get the brains that are posting on the CoVid19 thread to sort out this problem, reading all these threads and a I am amazed at the amount of expert geniuses that have come together in this site, they would put the geniuses of the history of the world to shame,

If they contacted us 6 weeks ago we might have curtailed it, South Korea style.

deise08 · 27-03-2020 11:29PM

So as soon as the announcement was made, the chaos ensued at the supermarkets.

tobefrank321 · 27-03-2020 11:29PM

ziggyman17 wrote: »

I find it strange that the goverment did not contact BOARDS.IE and get the brains that are posting on the CoVid19 thread to sort out this problem, reading all these threads and a I am amazed at the amount of expert geniuses that have come together in this site, they would put the geniuses of the history of the world to shame,

If they didn't ask you, why would they ask us??

rm212 · 27-03-2020 11:30PM

I will be required to cocoon as a T1 diabetic. I am a postgrad student who worked quite a lot of teaching hours alongside it to make ends meat for rent and stuff. The university kept us on for reduced hours to be delivered remotely so I'm not entitled to the emergency payment, so I'm going to struggle financially.

I'm waiting for clarification that people who have to cocoon can claim the illness benefit, as it seems that they should based on the description. This would help a lot... I'm really worried about everything at the moment. Finances are becoming another burden now... I know lots of people are in the same boat with that

BLIZZARD7 · 27-03-2020 11:30PM

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

There won't be massive inflation. There might be some inflation. We could do with some inflation. Even neo-liberal Chicago and Austrian school economists like 2% inflation. Inflation has been well below 2% for ages.

Also, if most businesses are closed, how could the prices for most things go up?

Some inflation is good yes, I'd worry the trillions being printed may cause something more than 2% though.

If most businesses are closed, the prices would go up when they re-open? Less supply in the market too (albeit temporary)

nacho libre wrote: »

Quantative easing worked before. It will be very tough, but the economy will recover, despite what the doom merchants are saying

If we always keep printing money why would currency hold value though? There is a limit to how much QE the market will take...

CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

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CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)OP upd 28/03