CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) Read OP

Blueshoe · 15-03-2020 02:22PM

Ellie2008 wrote: »

I’ll say it again no fan of Boris & the UK’s “plan” in general but what is wrong with telling the over 70s to stay at home. They are the most at risk & there aren’t enough resources for the numbers that could be infected.

Obviously some exemptions for access to care workers, shopping etc. but as a general rule the vulnerable should stay at home it they are risking death or the death of another they take a bed from that didn’t take the same risks.

100% only because Boris said it.

Part of a coping mechanism. We are doing everything properly those other people in that country are wrong.

It's the same herd mentality that we saw when people were lining up to buy bread during the storm and the toilet paper fiasco playing out now.
Ask anyone who deals with the general public on a daily basis. They are idiots.

is_that_so · 15-03-2020 02:23PM

Johan Ashy Guava wrote: »

There's an online map showing updated locations of infections around Ireland.

Someone linked it previously.

Anyone have the link?

They will be publishing a new weekly report from tomorrow they said, with that detail, I think down to county level.

castletownman · 15-03-2020 02:23PM

Funkfield wrote: »

Once they got their Friday and Saturday night

At a far, far reduced rate.

Ellie2008 · 15-03-2020 02:23PM

wexandproud wrote: »

drop off at door , as per recommendations . It's a risk all right , all though slight/medium at moment . Whats the alternative ? some old dear cold or hungry

I understand it’s a nice thing to do but if day you did 15 drops off & you were infected chances are you could infect someone, they say it can survive in surfaces for a certain amount of time. Surgical gloves maybe?

Dontfadeaway · 15-03-2020 02:24PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I said it a week ago but you where one of the lucky ones if you got this early on in Ireland, in a few weeks there will be no beds,

I'd imagine the US will be the most hit by this when its all over and done with ,

I thought you could get it a 2nd time?

jos28 · 15-03-2020 02:24PM

Notices of pub closures escalating at the moment, can't be an easy decision for any business. Fair play to them

BoroMan32 · 15-03-2020 02:24PM

Winter Puny Alternator wrote: »

Definitely don’t want to see these videos but I wonder are they true?

Slightly elaborate thing to fake; if not.

completedit · 15-03-2020 02:24PM

People saying “Horrific” numbers from Spain, you know most of those infected are probably just sitting inside playing FIFA with their friends. It isn’t horrific at all.

Hamsterchops · 15-03-2020 02:24PM

LOCKDOWN :cool:

Lockdown this, lockdown that, they're locked down, so are we, are you going into lockdown too?

My God that term grinds my gears...
And it means so many different things to different people.

paul71 · 15-03-2020 02:24PM

is_that_so wrote: »

We currently have no government that can enact laws. DoH guidance or advice is the only way to do it at present.

That is incorrect, we do have a government and ministers and a Dail. That government can bring legislation to the Houses or Oirechtas if required and if the Houses of Oireachtas vote it through it becomes law. No different to any other time.

namloc1980 · 15-03-2020 02:25PM

Ellie2008 wrote: »

I’ll say it again no fan of Boris & the UK’s “plan” in general but what is wrong with telling the over 70s to stay at home. They are the most at risk & there aren’t enough resources for the numbers that could be infected.

Obviously some exemptions for access to care workers, shopping etc. but as a general rule the vulnerable should stay at home it they are risking death or the death of another they take a bed from that didn’t take the same risks.

The UK plan is based on the assumption that you can actually get herd immunity to this virus - no evidence of that, in fact some instances showing quite the opposite. The other assumption is that people under 70 will in the main be grand - again a massive assumption.

Clarence Boddiker · 15-03-2020 02:25PM

Ireland is set to go into complete lockdown..

Including pubs and off licences.

bo0li5eumx12kp · 15-03-2020 02:25PM

is_that_so wrote: »

They will be publishing a new weekly report from tomorrow they said, with that detail, I think down to county level.

There's one active now, a website with map outlining infected zones.

Just can't find the link.

macnug · 15-03-2020 02:25PM

People giving out about the pubs (which i agree with btw) but I was just in Tesco's Portlaoise there and its still very busy. People coughing a sneezing too. Maybe they need to think about online only shopping. Dont know how that would work for people not computer literate.

namloc1980 · 15-03-2020 02:25PM

is_that_so wrote: »

We currently have no government that can enact laws. DoH guidance or advice is the only way to do it at present.

Wrong. The government don't enact laws, the Dail does.

Spook_ie · 15-03-2020 02:25PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Cruise Ship 2.0 on a Country Size scale. Stay at home, no need to go out, we'll bring the virus to you, free delivery.

So you're saying isolate yourselves you're ****ed, go out you're ****ed, rely on relatives, yes you guessed it, you're ****ed.

What is your suggestion for say over 70's in Ireland to try to avoid catching it?

Gynoid · 15-03-2020 02:26PM

While most of the people who have died from the virus were aged above 70 with had underlying illnesses, more than 50 percent of the 300 patients currently in intensive care for the virus in a serious condition were aged under 60, Salomon said. He urged the public to avoid contact with others.

Jerome Salomon, French health chief, says 98% of people recover. But that half of all in ICU are under 60 does change the message that may have been out there that elderly people are most vulnerable. Or perhaps that was just the message I incorrectly picked up from italy's ICU situation.

https://www.thelocal.fr/20200314/france-orders-all-bars-restaurants-and-non-essential-shops-to-close-to-step-coronavirus-epidemic

Cody montana · 15-03-2020 02:26PM

Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

Ireland is set to go into complete lockdown..

Including pubs and off licences.

Off licences?

Oh god no!

DOCARCH · 15-03-2020 02:26PM

Government need to open up the Apple bank account!

If they did, cheque in the post for approx. € 2,600 to every man, woman and child in the country!

Yipee!

kalkat2002 · 15-03-2020 02:26PM

completedit wrote: »

People saying “Horrific” numbers from Spain, you know most of those infected are probably just sitting inside playing FIFA with their friends. It isn’t horrific at all.

If you dont know what is happening in spain keep silent pls

alastair · 15-03-2020 02:27PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

It's not even anti conservative. It's a clear indication that people absorb and base their opinions from the media.

You will see zero positive stories about Trump , Boris etc on the news so many know no better.

Remember the basics : when times are good people complain about our own government
When times are bad our government are doing their best but Boris and Trump are terrible.

Trump and Boris were both democratically elected. The opinions of Irish people are irrelevant in the grand scheme.

As is your own.

otnomart · 15-03-2020 02:27PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Italy stopped flights from China in January.

How is that working out for them?

Know we now (from genomic data) that the virus was introduced early in Europe, early cases in the Netherlands and Germany which appear to have been the main gateways thanks to the busy airport hubs.

See for NL
https://nextstrain.org/ncov/2020-03-13?f_country=Netherlands

and for Germany
https://nextstrain.org/ncov/2020-03-13?f_country=Germany

is_that_so · 15-03-2020 02:27PM

paul71 wrote: »

That is incorrect, we do have a government and ministers and a Dail. That government can bring legislation to the Houses or Oirechtas if required and if the Houses of Oireachtas vote it through it becomes law. No different to any other time.

It needs to go through the appropriate stages, via committees and the like, which we don't have.

RugbyLad11 · 15-03-2020 02:27PM

Isn't the virus not predicted to peak in May at the earliest?

So if we shut everything down now (pubs etc) wouldn't we get fatigue before the peak and open back up too early?

Ger Roe · 15-03-2020 02:27PM

Vintners rep just on the RTE Radio news saying pubs are going to close. He said the government isolation guidelines are unworkable in a pub context.

No sh1t Sherlock. I am seriously considering offering myself to the government as an advisory expert. I and many other's saw it is an unworkable recommendation days ago and yet just before the Vintners said so, Paschal O Donoghue was interviewed and was still saying we will act if people don't observe the guidelines.

The guidelines were wrong - move harder and faster.

macnug · 15-03-2020 02:28PM

DOCARCH wrote: »

Government need to open up the Apple bank account!

If they did, cheque in the post for approx. € 2,600 to every man, woman and child in the country!

Yipee!

Might not be a bad idea when this is all over. The economy is going to need a kick start.

Signore Fancy Pants · 15-03-2020 02:28PM

rob316 wrote: »

He's right though. Tough choices will have to be made, what's the point of surviving if there is nothing to go back to?

He's not right, he contradicted himself. How can he see the benefit of a lockdown easing pressure on the health system and then say it's pointless?

I will tell you how...because he's talking shyte.

Tough choices are being made and neither you or that other lad have any clue whats going on.

If there is an enforced lockdown, its not going to last 2 weeks. It will last until confirmed cases slow to a rate where the health service can maintain control.

If boys and girls do what is required, limit contact and potential community spread, we can control it and get back to normal as soon as possible.

If we maintain free movement, yer man's vicious circle will contine.

You cannot have it both ways at all.

weldoninhio · 15-03-2020 02:28PM

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

You'd think someone working in the HSE would have a bit more cop on...

You are potentially endangering more than just your own life. I hope you know that! (But I'm sure you do!) Selfish **** !! :mad:

C’est la vie. Life goes on.

MD1990 · 15-03-2020 02:28PM

95 dead in Spain already today.

Going to be even worse than Italy.

smelly sock · 15-03-2020 02:28PM

In maynooth driving. Obriens coffee shop wedged. Supernacs wedged. Mcdonalds wedged.

Well done all.

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