new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

15-02-2020 05:33PM

fritzelly wrote: »

It causes lower respiratory as well

It's mainly upper respiratory. LRTI is kinda synonymous with pneumonia. Influenza nearly always starts as a URTI. But that can lead to viral pneumonia in the lower lobes.

Zenify · 15-02-2020 05:37PM

https://youtu.be/Bb4BlkOhlXs

Dr. JOHN

Mostly good news that children aren't having bad symptoms

CinemaGuy45 · 15-02-2020 05:50PM

Zenify wrote: »

https://youtu.be/Bb4BlkOhlXs

Dr. JOHN

Mostly good news that children aren't having bad symptoms

So Greta Thunberg will be safe? Thank God for that.

I suppose she thinks this is a good thing doing away with us oldies.

Snow Garden · 15-02-2020 05:50PM

one armed dwarf wrote: »

Been a while since I heard the term 'oriental people'.

I would have thought that was a fairly common phrase.

Snow Garden · 15-02-2020 05:52PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Oriental people have on average the highest IQs in the world they produce and have invented some great stuff Playstation Samsung Gunpowder.

The Irish have the lowest average IQ in Western Europe for anybody interested.

I didn't know that but I am not surprised either. China is a very impressive country despite it's political system.

CinemaGuy45 · 15-02-2020 05:55PM

Snow Garden wrote: »

I would have thought that was a fairly common phrase.

Thanks I would have thought so too.
This younger generation will never cease to shock us all.

Revealed: Irish kids aged 12 'cannot run, jump, catch or even hit a ball'

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/revealed-irish-kids-aged-12-cannot-run-jump-catch-or-even-hit-a-ball-36043842.html

igCorcaigh · 15-02-2020 05:57PM

fritzelly wrote: »

It causes lower respiratory as well

It seems to like the lung a lot, one of its distinguishing features, the lower incidence of upper rti.

SeaBreezes · 15-02-2020 05:59PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I misspoke. I suppose. I should rephrase it as this virus that causes upper respiratory distress similar to the flu. You are correct though, the coronavirus is different to influenza A/B/C

And to quote the frontline doctor interviewed...” it’s not like anything we’ve seen. (This Dr. was frontline for SARS outbreak as well and is no stranger to trauma and stress) their condition might worsen we still don’t understand the mechanism for it. It deals damage outside the lung as well, including our circulatory system, our heart, liver and kidney and our blood system. It could deal a lethal blow to the entire body, this is a special characteristic of the illness” Dr. From Shanghai Wuhan reinforcement team.

15-02-2020 06:01PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The majority of people seeming to be recovering quite well from the infection. It seems to me that in a normal person, this strain is flu is less severe than the seasonal.flu.

But it isn’t an influenza. And what is a normal person?

I know quite a few “normal” people on immunosuppressant drugs for autoimmune diseases and often these are younger people. Pregnant women are immune compromised.

saabsaab · 15-02-2020 06:01PM

Spoke about the virus to a few health professionals but they don't seem too worried yet. I wonder is that they are so busy they don't take much notice of what's coming?

15-02-2020 06:03PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

So Greta Thunberg will be safe? Thank God for that.

I suppose she thinks this is a good thing doing away with us oldies.

Wow you must be a huge Greta Thunberg fan and supporter if she's forefront of your mind when you hear children are at low risk with this disease. Unless you were being sarcastic? But that would be truly disturbing so surely not?

CinemaGuy45 · 15-02-2020 06:03PM

Snow Garden wrote: »

I didn't know that but I am not surprised either. China is a very impressive country despite it's political system.

Take a look at this not PC but factual.

The top six smartest nations on earth

Rank Country IQ
1 Singapore 108
2 Hong Kong 108
3 Taiwan 106
4 South Korea 106
5 Japan 105
6 China 104

Ireland is 39 on that list with an average IQ of 94.

wakka12 · 15-02-2020 06:04PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Wow you must be a huge Greta Thunberg fan and supporter if she's forefront of your mind when you hear children are at low risk with this disease. Unless you were being sarcastic? But that would be truly disturbing so surely not?

Lol checkmate

Snow Garden · 15-02-2020 06:06PM

saabsaab wrote: »

Spoke about the virus to a few health professionals but they don't seem too worried yet. I wonder is that they are so busy they don't take much notice of what's coming?

So you got expert advice and choose to dismiss it because they are busy?

CinemaGuy45 · 15-02-2020 06:09PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Wow you must be a huge Greta Thunberg fan and supporter if she's forefront of your mind when you hear children are at low risk with this disease. Unless you were being sarcastic? But that would be truly disturbing so surely not?

Or a joke FFS.
I am well aware it is the adults in the background pulling the carbon tax strings.

saabsaab · 15-02-2020 06:12PM

Snow Garden wrote: »

So you got expert advice and choose to dismiss it because they are busy?

No not at all. Just wondered why they aren't more aware especially as they will be in the front line!

15-02-2020 06:12PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Or a joke FFS.

You should do stand up. Children at risk of serious illness is top notch stuff.

CinemaGuy45 · 15-02-2020 06:14PM

Deleted User wrote: »

You should do stand up. Children at risk of serious illness is top notch stuff.

If a pandemic is coming everybody is at risk.

15-02-2020 06:14PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Take a look at this not PC but factual.

The top six smartest nations on earth

Rank Country IQ
1 Singapore 108
2 Hong Kong 108
3 Taiwan 106
4 South Korea 106
5 Japan 105
6 China 104

Ireland is 39 on that list with an average IQ of 94.

IQ is a load of ****. You can't actually measure intelligence in that way.

Snow Garden · 15-02-2020 06:14PM

saabsaab wrote: »

No not at all. Just wondered why they aren't more aware especially as they will be in the front line!

More aware of what exactly?
Of the social media hype and hysteria?
Maybe it's because they are intelligent.

CinemaGuy45 · 15-02-2020 06:17PM

Deleted User wrote: »

IQ is a load of ****. You can't actually measure intelligence in that way.

:D:D:D
You did not agree with your own result I take it?:D

It is funny that very few people from the top six countries end up on the old scratcher.

Must be something in it.

15-02-2020 06:18PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

If a pandemic is coming everybody is at risk.

But children are at less risk of serious symptoms. And when someone mentioned that you just had to reply with a sarcastic comment about a child. Off topic and pretty messed up. Get a life.

wakka12 · 15-02-2020 06:18PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Take a look at this not PC but factual.

The top six smartest nations on earth

Rank Country IQ
1 Singapore 108
2 Hong Kong 108
3 Taiwan 106
4 South Korea 106
5 Japan 105
6 China 104

Ireland is 39 on that list with an average IQ of 94.

There are many facets to intelligence. IQ measures a narrow range. It is not meaningless but by no means could say somebody is outright 'smarter' than another person based solely on their IQ. Notice the clear trend towards higher IQ and nations with higher levels of education, of course not being educated doesnt mean youre not smart, its just means youre not educated in the fields we associate with 'intelligence'.

fritzelly · 15-02-2020 06:20PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWVtLjwlLQk

15-02-2020 06:26PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

:D:D:D
You did not agree with your own result I take it?:D

It is funny that very few people from the top six countries end up on the old scratcher.

Must be something in it.

Oh. I'm a stupid ****. Hence why I'm on this thread. But it doesn't actually measure intelligence. Education has an effect on it. So it doesn't actually measure innate intelligence.

saabsaab · 15-02-2020 06:28PM

Snow Garden wrote: »

More aware of what exactly?
Of the social media hype and hysteria?
Maybe it's because they are intelligent.

Aware of the developing situation and the latest facts! Not denying their intelligence but that didn't stop Doctors, nurses and careworkers dying in Wuhan did it?

15-02-2020 06:29PM

tara73 wrote: »

yes, be careful. have a friend living in Beijing (also at the moment, poor pet), and they apparently spit constantly everywhere. Once someone spit on her leg accidentally, sitting in a bus..blergh

You can end up in jail in Singapore for spitting. Or doing anything antisocial. The Chinese government would do well to add spitting offence to their law-breaking intolerance.

CinemaGuy45 · 15-02-2020 06:33PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh. I'm a stupid ****. Hence why I'm on this thread. But it doesn't actually measure intelligence. Education has an effect on it. So it doesn't actually measure innate intelligence.

How did I get into this tangent I am partly to blame also.

Somebody said pointing out what some dirty individuals in China were doing by spitting and wiping spit on surfaces was racist.

I was just pointing out how developed China was and having a go at SOME
dirty individuals is not racist or anti Chinese.

Sorry for being partially to blame for dragging this thread off topic.

Any chance of getting back on topic as I along with most other people are just trying to figure out how likely we are to be hit by this thing and how bad it will be.:)

bodhrandude · 15-02-2020 06:40PM

Some South Korean reports about North Korea. https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-reportedly-spread-north-korea-163908984.html

Kermit.de.frog · 15-02-2020 06:42PM

Main United States quarantine centres.

https://twitter.com/GeopoliticalJD/status/1228738596183695361

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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