new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

Snow Garden · 15-02-2020 04:15PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

The data is out there, if you want to know your chances of survival in case you get infected the best thing to do it taking a calculator and work out the rate. You have total deaths, Total infected, total survivals. It ultimately boils down to how you want to look at data

Wrong. You will never know the total infected. You will only know the total of the people that were confirmed to have the virus using medical testing.

SusanC10 · 15-02-2020 04:15PM

laurah591 wrote: »

Article is behind a paywall but an American was infected on the 2nd Cruise ship, have all those passengers been sent back to country's of origin or are they in quarantine in Cambodia?

I had previously read that all Passengers had been tested on disembarking in Cambodia and tested negative and were released. This American person tested positive in Malaysia after flying there from Cambodia with more than 100 other passengers from the Ship.

igCorcaigh · 15-02-2020 04:17PM

Snow Garden wrote: »

Wrong. You will never know the total infected. You will only know the total of the people that were confirmed to have the virus using medical testing.

Yup, CFR is a (in this case, highly) inflated estimate of the true mortality rate.

ardinn · 15-02-2020 04:17PM

Doc John

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U088JzCJCAg&feature=push-sd&attr_tag=G6bClHVYpKv4LoEJ%3A6

laurah591 · 15-02-2020 04:18PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

I had previously read that all Passengers had been tested on disembarking in Cambodia and tested negative and were released. This American person tested positive in Malaysia after flying there from Cambodia with more than 100 other passengers from the Ship.

So possible first test was a false negative and we might see some more cases emerge.

15-02-2020 04:20PM

The majority of people seeming to be recovering quite well from the infection. It seems to me that in a normal person, this strain is flu is less severe than the seasonal.flu.

CinemaGuy45 · 15-02-2020 04:21PM

laurah591 wrote: »

All i saw was 65 tested as of last Monday ... 6 days old

Limited Irish Media coverage here, in my opinion there looks to be efforts taking to keep suspect cases quiet

I am fully convinced we have cases here already however we don't have a media all we have are shills and paid lapdogs.

CinemaGuy45 · 15-02-2020 04:29PM

Ubbquittious wrote: »

Ah Fuck the economy. Staying alive more important

Jesus :rolleyes:

The economy produces our food and taking part in the economy enables us to buy that food.

Not just food we have
Healthcare
Transport
Energy
Security

The tooth fairy does not restock the supermarkets you know.

Tipperary animal lover · 15-02-2020 04:31PM

After watching the videos on twitter of some chinese going round splitting and smearing the buttons on elevators, coughing on food products, spitting on door handles i went into tescos today and bought a few packets of antibacterial wipes for my up coming trip to asia ... sick to my stomach what people would/can do to other humans.

Stheno · 15-02-2020 04:34PM

Tipperary animal lover wrote: »

After watching the videos on twitter of some chinese going round splitting and smearing the buttons on elevators, coughing on food products, spitting on door handles i went into tescos today and bought a few packets of antibacterial wipes for my up coming trip to asia ... sick to my stomach what people would/can do to other humans.

Why would you travel to Asia at this time?

CinemaGuy45 · 15-02-2020 04:38PM

wakka12 wrote: »

And yet we have seen same measures in countries outside China with only a few dozen cases, ban on public gathering, indefinite school closures, flight bans, closed borders , a town in Vietnam quarantined, cruise liners with no confirmed cases stranded at sea for days, suspected patients being rushed to hospitals by a team in hazmat suits, governments tracing and observing and isolating tens of thousands of people, and more

Aaa sure it will be all grand.

Until it is not.:(

Tipperary animal lover · 15-02-2020 04:38PM

Stheno wrote: »

Why would you travel to Asia at this time?

Atm were still going but thinks can change, have just under four weeks to decide, forfeit the flights if we have to.

tara73 · 15-02-2020 04:39PM

Tipperary animal lover wrote: »

After watching the videos on twitter of some chinese going round splitting and smearing the buttons on elevators, coughing on food products, spitting on door handles i went into tescos today and bought a few packets of antibacterial wipes for my up coming trip to asia ... sick to my stomach what people would/can do to other humans.

yes, be careful. have a friend living in Beijing (also at the moment, poor pet), and they apparently spit constantly everywhere. Once someone spit on her leg accidentally, sitting in a bus..blergh

CinemaGuy45 · 15-02-2020 04:40PM

wakka12 wrote: »

8 out of 9 UK patients discharged

And 9 out of ten cats prefer Whiskers.:D

sweetie · 15-02-2020 04:45PM

tara73 wrote: »

yes, be careful. have a friend living in Beijing (also at the moment, poor pet), and they apparently spit constantly everywhere. Once someone spit on her leg accidentally, sitting in a bus..blergh

Plenty of spitting scumbags in Ireland too. See lots of it around Dublin.

givyjoe · 15-02-2020 04:52PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The majority of people seeming to be recovering quite well from the infection. It seems to me that in a normal person, this strain is flu is less severe than the seasonal.flu.

Hang on, earlier you claimed to be a pharmacist. Influenza and coronavirus are not the same thing.

Also, what do you consider to be a majority? The vast majority of cases have not yet recovered.

CinemaGuy45 · 15-02-2020 04:55PM

sweetie wrote: »

Plenty of spitting scumbags in Ireland too. See lots of it around Dublin.

Oriental people have on average the highest IQs in the world they produce and have invented some great stuff Playstation Samsung Gunpowder.

The Irish have the lowest average IQ in Western Europe for anybody interested.

Being racist is trying to infer another race is inferior but we can all see what the Oriental peoples have achieved I don't see any racism.

Pointing our what some scumbags are doing there is not racist and I would assume the videos were captured and uploaded by people who are outraged and I would guess these people are of the same race.

So we see a few dirty scumbags in China and you respond oh we have scumbags here too.
Why do you need to point that out?

When some scummy junkie mugs somebody in Dublin do you feel the need to point out they have dirty junkies in India also?

gozunda · 15-02-2020 04:57PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The majority of people seeming to be recovering quite well from the infection. It seems to me that in a normal person, this strain is flu is less severe than the seasonal.flu.

The Corona virus is not a "strain of flu"

You may wish to tell to frontline medical staff and the millions under lockdown in China and elsewhere it's "less severe than the seasonal flu" - I'm fairly certain that will be of comfort to them...

CinemaGuy45 · 15-02-2020 05:01PM

gozunda wrote: »

The Corona virus is not a "strain of flu"

You may wish to tell to frontline medical staff and the millions under lockdown in China and elsewhere its "less severe than the seasonal flu" - I'm fairly certain that will be of comfort to them...

Yes sure it is only a runny nose.

NOTHING TO SEE HERE.

15-02-2020 05:04PM

gozunda wrote: »

The Corona virus is not a "strain of flu"

You may wish to tell to frontline medical staff and the millions under lockdown in China and elsewhere its "less severe than the seasonal flu" - I'm fairly certain that will be of comfort to them...

I misspoke. I suppose. I should rephrase it as this virus that causes upper respiratory distress similar to the flu. You are correct though, the coronavirus is different to influenza A/B/C

15-02-2020 05:05PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Yes sure it is only a runny nose.

NOTHING TO SEE HERE.

I think you are underestimating how serious catching influenza is.

CinemaGuy45 · 15-02-2020 05:05PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I misspoke. I suppose. I should rephrase it as this virus that causes upper respiratory distress similar to the flu. You are correct though, the coronavirus is different to influenza A/B/C

Very rare for anybody to admit they were wrong on here well done.:)

sweetie · 15-02-2020 05:08PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Oriental people have on average the highest IQs in the world they produce and have invented some great stuff Playstation Samsung Gunpowder.

The Irish have the lowest average IQ in Western Europe for anybody interested.

Being racist is trying to infer another race is inferior but we can all see what the Oriental peoples have achieved I don't see any racism.

Pointing our what some scumbags are doing there is not racist and I would assume the videos were captured and uploaded by people who are outraged and I would guess these people are of the same race.

So we see a few dirty scumbags in China and you respond oh we have scumbags here too.
Why do you need to point that out?

When some scummy junkie mugs somebody in Dublin do you feel the need to point out they have dirty junkies in India also?

You've lost me. Jeez

one armed dwarf · 15-02-2020 05:09PM

Been a while since I heard the term 'oriental people'.

CinemaGuy45 · 15-02-2020 05:09PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I think you are underestimating how serious catching influenza is.

I had a very bad strain of the flu two years ago I did not sleep for close to 3 full days and nights my lungs were full of goo.

If somebody had of handed me a fatal overdose I would have taken it I am not joking it was that bad I understand now how the flu can kill.

I really hate the Chinese communist government but I also understand how smart they are and they are treating this way more serious than any flu.

CinemaGuy45 · 15-02-2020 05:12PM

one armed dwarf wrote: »

Been a while since I heard the term 'oriental people'.

I don't like to use the term Asian as this is what you read after Muslim terror attacks.

The man who looked Asian and so on.

Oriental people are people native to the Orient.

fritzelly · 15-02-2020 05:13PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I misspoke. I suppose. I should rephrase it as this virus that causes upper respiratory distress similar to the flu. You are correct though, the coronavirus is different to influenza A/B/C

It causes lower respiratory as well

CinemaGuy45 · 15-02-2020 05:14PM

sweetie wrote: »

You've lost me. Jeez

Happen you a lot?:D

GooglePlus · 15-02-2020 05:26PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

I don't like to use the term Asian as this is what you read after Muslim terror attacks.

The man who looked Asian and so on.

Oriental people are people native to the Orient.

There's nobody currently native to the Orient.

CinemaGuy45 · 15-02-2020 05:28PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

There's nobody currently native to the Orient.

orient
noun
noun: the Orient
/ˈɔːrɪənt,ˈɒrɪənt/
1.
LITERARY
the countries of the East, especially East Asia.
"the treasures of the Orient"

Not that it matters anyway I am old I do not speak millennial.

Lets get back to we are all doomed again.:D

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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