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c.p.w.g.w · 05-02-2020 10:29PM

Ferm001 wrote: »

I think this would be the best possible result for SF. They have now shown they can compete with the big 2. How long will a C&S last ? SF will be ready next time with increased numbers of candidates.
SF play the long game.

What are the chances of SF getting 35 seats?

Zetor19 · 05-02-2020 10:31PM

Tans/fine fail be upset if a homeless person got attacked. They would in their holes.

05-02-2020 10:33PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Those on a trolley have less chance of getting beaten up, murdered and called a criminal at least. The homeless are probably arguably safer than Paul Quinn ever was at least if a homeless person is attacked - those in power would be upset about it.

There has been homeless people set alight and chopped up in Ireland in recent times. One was crippled with a JCB who tried to remove their tent.

gormdubhgorm · 05-02-2020 10:34PM

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

What are the chances of SF getting 35 seats?

Paddy power are spilt on 5/6 over 28.5 seats and 5/6 under 28.5 seats

Itssoeasy · 05-02-2020 10:34PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I think Leo and Martin not replying on the Paul Quinn stuff was an admission that they are a beaten docket on this stuff.

It's pointless, nobody wins, least of all the exploited victim and their family, and everybody feels a bit dirty after it.

FrancieBrady wrote: »

What?

Is this not use from last night ?

Plumbthedepths · 05-02-2020 10:36PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Ah FGS you sound so patronising. No one knows if you have sons or not. My point was that there is often more heat than light in SF supporters, and that would apply to younger voters in general IMV.

OK with you for me having an opinion on MANY younger voters? They generally don't walk the walk really. But we shall see. I am not saying I know everything either, just an observation.

Your point was to make a general sweeping condescending comment towards the under 30's , remember they will be the ones you'll be relying on to pay your pension. As for my son's , your belief in what I say is of no importance to me.

Hurrache · 05-02-2020 10:37PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

RTE devoted over five minutes of the lead story on Paul Quinn & Mary Lou. Their agenda is crystal. Leo & MM portrayed in a soft light condemning said "scandal." No elderly people on trolleys, or homelessness crisis then.

Try watching or listening something else than RTE. Virgin and Newstalk are all over it too.

The fact that people are still whinging about this conspiracy is leading me to come around to IQ tests prior to being given a polling card.

gormdubhgorm · 05-02-2020 10:37PM

Deleted User wrote: »

There has been homeless people set alight and chopped up Ireland in recent times. One was crippled with a JCB who tried to remove their tent.

The key here tipp Gunner was the accident with the machinery was an accident. In NI there are 'accidents' or 'unfortunate incidents' with political undertones/excuses.

Big difference.

FrancieBrady · 05-02-2020 10:39PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Is this not use from last night ?

Yes.

What is your point about it though?

Zetor19 · 05-02-2020 10:40PM

The 2 westbrit party’s and rte ranting on about 1 incident and the country been overrun by drugs and robbery’s and murders, and the tans closing down gaurd stations and not one question to them by rte about it.

gormdubhgorm · 05-02-2020 10:40PM

Zetor19 wrote: »

Tans/fine fail be upset if a homeless person got attacked. They would in their holes.

If you think FF are tans well done on the time travelling I would love to know how you managed it.
Leo was actually a Dr who cared for the sick in the medical profession.
So there is a large irony to this post.

Zetor19 · 05-02-2020 10:41PM

Fine Gael are the tans , have you been under a rock .

dark crystal · 05-02-2020 10:41PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Where is this axis of failure exactly - near full employment etc
You seem very melodramatic. Also it is interesting to note the the homeless figures are proportionally larger in NI (20k 1.09%) than the ROI (under 10k 0.2%). And the ROI is about 3 times the size. Yet SF are snuggled up to Arelene in Stormont up there. Yet there is more homeless.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/election-2020-fact-check-how-many-people-are-homeless-in-northern-ireland-1.4162666

Read the link you posted; the stats are actually a lot less than the 20k figure you and Varadkar are claiming:

"A report by the Northern Ireland Audit Office (NIAO) on Homelessness in Northern Ireland, which was published in November 2017, found that since 2005-6, around 20,000 households have presented to NIHE as homeless each year. On average, about 50 per cent of these were accepted as homeless."

"The NIHE estimated that in November 2018 there were 38 rough sleepers in Northern Ireland."

While the official figures are that just under 20,000 households presented as homeless in Northern Ireland in 2018, only 12,512 met the legal requirements of homelessness and were accepted as “full duty applicants”.

It is simply not possible to compare the two systems - or sets of figures - because of the significant differences in approach, methodology and criteria.

gormdubhgorm · 05-02-2020 10:42PM

Zetor19 wrote: »

The 2 westbrit party’s and rte ranting on about 1 incident and the country been overrun by drugs and robbery’s and murders, and the tans closing down gaurd stations and not one question to them by rte about it.

Use the term 'West Brit' (in the English tongue) does not really help your cause as you come across as the SF stereotype, that they are trying to get away from and broaden the demographic.

realdanbreen · 05-02-2020 10:42PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I think they will do anything to keep SF out.

You catch on fairly fast!

Spanish Eyes · 05-02-2020 10:43PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Your point was to make a general sweeping condescending comment towards the under 30's , remember they will be the ones you'll be relying on to pay your pension. As for my son's , your belief in what I say is of no importance to me.

I didn't mean to offend, but I know from experience that the herd mentality of that age group that often doesn't translate into votes much either.

Hurrache · 05-02-2020 10:43PM

Zetor19 wrote: »

Fine Gael are the tans , have you been under a rock .

You heard a sound bite and ran with it, but you need to understand your history.

It's highly ironic that if many boards users of a certain leaning were around a couple of decades ago they'd be all over FG.

Spanish Eyes · 05-02-2020 10:44PM

realdanbreen wrote: »

You catch on fairly fast!

You telling me I'm SLOW :pac:

Zetor19 · 05-02-2020 10:45PM

Have actually never voted for Sinn Fein before but 100% will be on Saturday.

gormdubhgorm · 05-02-2020 10:45PM

dark crystal wrote: »

It is simply not possible to compare the two systems - or sets of figures - because of the significant differences in approach, methodology and criteria.

This maybe true but Leo was up on the figures. He knew his stuff and was prepared. Mary Lou on the the other-hand... If it was job interview you would not trust her to make the tea.

blackcard · 05-02-2020 10:45PM

Zetor19 wrote: »

The 2 westbrit party’s and rte ranting on about 1 incident and the country been overrun by drugs and robbery’s and murders, and the tans closing down gaurd stations and not one question to them by rte about it.

I think you are easily the most ignorant person on this thread. Just because someone doesn't share your views does not make them west brits or tans.

Hurrache · 05-02-2020 10:47PM

blackcard wrote: »

I think you are easily the most ignorant person on this thread. Just because someone doesn't share your views does not make them west brits or tans.

Don't tell him about the blue shirts, he'll be FGs biggest fan if he knew.

gormdubhgorm · 05-02-2020 10:47PM

Zetor19 wrote: »

Have actually never voted for Sinn Fein before but 100% will be on Saturday.

I bet you never had 41 posts before today either. But at least you are voting I hope you are registered. In case you do not know the rules it is a number not an x in the box.

realdanbreen · 05-02-2020 10:47PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

You telling me I'm SLOW :pac:

No but it does begin with an S.

Allinall · 05-02-2020 10:48PM

Zetor19 wrote: »

The dinasours on here are in for a surprise so. Young people’s attention span these days are about 5 minutes it only takes 1 minute to vote. Last nights butcher job by rte is long forgotten already by the under 30s. Roll on Saturday.

And that 5 minute attention span means very few of them will vote.

By Saturday they’ll have forgotten there’s an election.

realdanbreen · 05-02-2020 10:50PM

Zetor19 wrote: »

Have actually never voted for Sinn Fein before but 100% will be on Saturday.

Who's the SF candidate in your constituency?

gormdubhgorm · 05-02-2020 10:51PM

realdanbreen wrote: »

Who's the SF candidate in your constituency?

I have a feeling he/she does not know which constituency they are in!

Zetor19 · 05-02-2020 10:51PM

P o neill.

realdanbreen · 05-02-2020 10:55PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I have a feeling he/she does not know which constituency they are in!

Currently calling out "Mom,what's a constituency?"

facehugger99 · 05-02-2020 10:55PM

Zetor19 wrote: »

Is leo the worst leader the tans ever had?

Zetor19 wrote: »

Calhoun, did anyone have a go at tanagan about the Black and Tans ?

Zetor19 wrote: »

Are the west brits of the country going to drag up **** that nobody cares about again

Zetor19 wrote: »

Tans/fine fail be upset if a homeless person got attacked.

Zetor19 wrote: »

The 2 westbrit party’s and rte ranting on about 1 incident and the country been overrun by drugs and robbery’s and murders, and the tans closing down gaurd stations and not one question to them by rte about it.

Zetor19 wrote: »

Fine Gael are the tans , have you been under a rock .

Did you learn a couple of new words recently?

Zetor19 wrote: »

Have actually never voted for Sinn Fein before but 100% will be on Saturday.

Solid FG voter up to now no doubt.:rolleyes:

Sounds like a match made in heaven.

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