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General Election TV debates

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    #3032
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Well the non party spinner in the spin room thinks nothing has changed, MLM still has the wind behind her.


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    #3033
    marieholmfan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    Still indicative of the IRA/SF mentality though - if you are involved in criminality, that isnt IRA criminality, then its OK to murder you. This is MaryLou's crowd we are talking about here.

    I think we can all get behind that. If a few thousand drug dealers were shot in the head that would fix the problem forever .


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    #3034
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,285 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    RTE pundit giving the win and momentum to MaryLou.


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    #3035
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    RTE The Spin Room just called it for Mary Lou as the winner again :cool:

    How the hell does that work? She was so weak on detail and she was tripped up at least twice, yet she won!


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    #3036
    marieholmfan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »
    I might be a voter for all you know. Certainly registers with me. No way would I vote for terrorists looking for a new gig now business in their first career has dried up.

    You have to be 18 to vote and you need a psychiatrists permission to vote after being sectioned .

    That's you excluded on two counts.


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    #3037
    boardise
    Registered Users Posts: 3,409 ✭✭✭boardise


    Millionaire only not wrote: »
    And Mary Lou falls with furlong to go !

    LOL.

    Keen at the start ,continually jumped to the left , lost place at halfway under pressure 3 out , weakened final furlong.


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    #3038
    johnmcdnl
    Registered Users Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭johnmcdnl


    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    RTE The Spin Room just called it for Mary Lou as the winner again :cool:

    All that RTE bias ehh


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    #3039
    jos28
    Registered Users Posts: 7,189 ✭✭✭jos28


    I think the strategy of allowing MLM to participate went exactly as MM and LV hoped it would. She was playing well out of her league. She can talk the talk (Trump/Farage style) but she can't walk the walk. Her populist, soundbite approach was exposed as shallow and one dimensional.
    Excruciating to watch her squirm on the SCC and Paul Flynn questions, she didn't do herself any favours on climate change either.


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    #3040
    RoryMac
    Registered Users Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    MM was shocking tonight imo, no plan of action for any of the main issues and struggled to explain why he propped up FG when he apparently disagreed with their policies so strongly. Especially as he said governments & the EU frontline was changing all over Europe despite Brexit but yet he kept propping up FG.

    Leo was the more comfortable throughout but FG have had 9 years and should've done more to turn around the main issues of housing and healthcare.

    Mary-Lou as expected very strong at pointing out the failings of FG & FF but I don't have any confidence in their plans for solving the issues and how they'll pay for them.

    Was undecided before the debate and still am but I've ruled out any vote for FF as I don't feel they've learnt from the problems they caused 10 years ago and seem more interested in propping up big business than trying to help ordinary working people


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    #3041
    Finty Lemon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    https://youtu.be/OJATctEBGAI

    Wake up UCD students


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    #3042
    charlie14
    Registered Users Posts: 14,915 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    I did.

    I can see how the usual suspects here are zeroing in once again on the 'RA stuff. But that is not registering with voters.
    I think otherwise it was a draw with MM maybe getting an edge. Too late though imo.


    Thought Martin edged it over Varadkar

    Said earlier that Mary Lou had nothing to gain by taking part, and that is how it panned out.


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    #3043
    Jizique
    Registered Users Posts: 1,852 ✭✭✭Jizique


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    I think that one is backfiring on Leo already. They let him walk away and are bailing out a largely unreformed organisation. Twitter not liking it.

    It’s just like MM walked away 9 years ago and after the bail out and the cleanup, he is coming back for a second go at destroying the economy


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    #3044
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    Opinions are like assholes, that "neutral" on rte is mistaken.

    Expect ff and fg to be like a dog with a bone over this for the next few days.


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    #3045
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,270 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    RTE The Spin Room just called it for Mary Lou as the winner again :cool:

    How the hell does that work? She was so weak on detail and she was tripped up at least twice, yet she won!

    RTÉ are in the governments pocket according to the SF party faithful here.

    Go figure.


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    #3046
    dundalkfc10
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    smurgen wrote: »
    There's no Garda investigation into the FAI or JD and no governance reforms of the organisation have been put in place. I think he shouldn't have mentioned it.

    Yes there is


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    #3047
    gmisk
    Registered Users Posts: 32,277 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    marieholmfan wrote: »
    I think we can all get behind that. If a few thousand drug dealers were shot in the head that would fix the problem forever .
    What do we want?
    IRA controlled drug dealers!
    When do we want em?
    Now!


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    #3048
    shenanagans
    Registered Users Posts: 896 ✭✭✭shenanagans


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    Well the non party spinner in the spin room thinks nothing has changed, MLM still has the wind behind her.

    The first analysis said Miriam nailed Mary Lou to the wall twice.....criminal court and Quinn. Another on panel said she doesn't want her three kids paying for SF uncosted policies.


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    #3049
    Finty Lemon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    RTE The Spin Room just called it for Mary Lou as the winner again :cool:

    How the hell does that work? She was so weak on detail and she was tripped up at least twice, yet she won!

    They called it for Enda Kenny too


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    #3050
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,285 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I think Leo and Martin not replying on the Paul Quinn stuff was an admission that they are a beaten docket on this stuff.

    It's pointless, nobody wins, least of all the exploited victim and their family, and everybody feels a bit dirty after it.


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    #3051
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users Posts: 3,135 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    The UCD students thought Mary Lou was the best, RTE thought she was the best too....

    I don't get it, am I missing something,
    Why was she the winner?


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    #3052
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,285 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    shenanagans wrote: »
    The first analysis said Miriam nailed Mary Lou to the wall twice.....criminal court and Quinn. Another on panel said she doesn't want her three kids paying for SF uncosted policies.

    They were party faithful, the woman on her own in red was a neutral, political scientist.


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    #3053
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    RTE pundit giving the win and momentum to MaryLou.
    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    RTE The Spin Room just called it for Mary Lou as the winner again :cool:

    How the hell does that work? She was so weak on detail and she was tripped up at least twice, yet she won!


    She didn't say MLM won the debate (that would be insane)
    She said it woiuld change nothing and momentum was still with SF


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    #3054
    realdanbreen
    Registered Users Posts: 8,165 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    boardise wrote: »
    LOL.

    Keen at the start ,continually jumped to the left , lost place at halfway under pressure 3 out , weakened final furlong.

    They might try putting on a hood or a tongue strap next time out!


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    #3055
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Finty Lemon wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/OJATctEBGAI

    Wake up UCD students
    jesus


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    #3056
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,285 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    She didn't say MLM won the debate (that would be insane)
    She said it woiuld change nothing and momentum was still with SF

    She did say 'the debate was Mary Lou's'.


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    #3057
    shenanagans
    Registered Users Posts: 896 ✭✭✭shenanagans


    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    The UCD students thought Mary Lou was the best, RTE thought she was the best too....

    I don't get it, am I missing something,
    Why was she the winner?

    UCD student said Mary Lou was best.....but gave no explanation why?


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    #3058
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    They were party faithful, the woman on her own in red was a neutral, political scientist.

    How neutral was she, the 2 mary lou clangers are potential momentum changers.


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    #3059
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,650 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    I think Leo and Martin not replying on the Paul Quinn stuff was an admission that they are a beaten docket on this stuff.

    It's pointless, nobody wins, least of all the exploited victim and their family, and everybody feels a bit dirty after it.

    ah come on why would they answer a question like that ? It was a Sinn Fein specific question juts like Leo varadkar and Michael Martin were asked specific questions about FF and FG Members who'd messed up. Was Mary Lou a "beaten docket" on that stuff then because she didn't reply ?


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    #3060
    marieholmfan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    realdanbreen wrote: »
    They might try putting on a hood or a tongue strap next time out!

    Did you have your hand in your trousers thinking about Mary Lou when you wrote that?


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    #3061
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users Posts: 5,542 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    jos28 wrote: »
    I think the strategy of allowing MLM to participate went exactly as MM and LV hoped it would. She was playing well out of her league. She can talk the talk (Trump/Farage style) but she can't walk the walk. Her populist, soundbite approach was exposed as shallow and one dimensional.
    Excruciating to watch her squirm on the SCC and Paul Flynn questions, she didn't do herself any favours on climate change either.


    Did nobody else note that she is promising a pension for everyone at 65 and this will be possible because she is going to increase the birthrate?


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