General Election 2020 - See MOD note in First Post

Jamie2k9 · 13-01-2020 08:15PM #1

Damien Tiernan saying a first time GE candidate for Waterford will be announced tomorrow and will throw the consistency wide open.

Reported to be Matt Shanahan.

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dzilla · 13-01-2020 08:24PM

John Delaney

kayaksurfbum · 13-01-2020 09:26PM

Is there a list of confirmed candidates anywhere? If anyone has confirmed!

jimbojazz · 13-01-2020 10:45PM

I have it on good authority it’s Howdo, being backed by the O’Meara’s

Max Powers · 14-01-2020 08:36AM

jimbojazz wrote: »

I have it on good authority it’s Howdo, being backed by the O’Meara’s

I'd prefer if it was howdo to the other fella...will Waterford learn lesson from last time that these independents are useless

hardybuck · 14-01-2020 11:18AM

Saturday Feb 8th. Delighted that they're not closing the schools again.

Dunmoreroader · 14-01-2020 12:13PM

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Damien Tiernan saying a first time GE candidate for Waterford will be announced tomorrow and will throw the consistency wide open.

Reported to be Matt Shanahan.

The 'consistency' has been mostly sh1te for years. The constituency on the other hand could do with being thrown wide open. :rolleyes:

Captain Red Beard · 14-01-2020 12:29PM

kayaksurfbum wrote: »

Is there a list of confirmed candidates anywhere? If anyone has confirmed!

I'd like to know this too.

Harry Palmr · 14-01-2020 12:36PM

I genuinely cannot envisage why I should cast a vote for any of those who are likely to be standing at this point.

Wanderer78 · 14-01-2020 12:40PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I genuinely cannot envisage why I should cast a vote for any of those who are likely to be standing at this point.

I've gone through this phase myself, voting can be extremely frustrating, but I now accept the importance of it, and why we should continue to vote, throw something on the ballot paper

14-01-2020 12:44PM

I suspect we'll see an official confirmed list of candidates in the coming days.

Meanwhile this gives a good indication - https://adriankavanaghelections.org/2017/04/19/candidates-for-the-next-2017-2021-general-election-by-constituency/.

It's updated those that have confirmed but is not a complete, definitive, list.

PTH2009 · 14-01-2020 12:58PM

Can you vote abroad online etc???

I'm away in Germany the day of the election

hardybuck · 14-01-2020 01:40PM

kayaksurfbum wrote: »

Is there a list of confirmed candidates anywhere? If anyone has confirmed!

Candidates will start announcing their intentions today.

John Halligan hasn't confirmed he's running yet for example.

Wanderer78 · 14-01-2020 02:00PM

hardybuck wrote:

John Halligan hasn't confirmed he's running yet for example.

Rumour has it, hes retiring

Gardner · 14-01-2020 02:03PM

Heard Matt Shanahan on DT show this morning. car crash stuff. Said it here when Eddie Mulligan ran as an independent that he would join FF within a year and Matt Shanahan confirmed in the interview that he canvassed for Paudie Coffey in the last election and would join FF if the deal was right...... says a lot about the individual himself on those statements alone.

Gael23 · 14-01-2020 02:20PM

I hope Mary Butler gets sent packing

PTH2009 · 14-01-2020 02:36PM

False promises with a high pay packet for all those cronies

hardybuck · 14-01-2020 02:49PM

Gardner wrote: »

Heard Matt Shanahan on DT show this morning. car crash stuff. Said it here when Eddie Mulligan ran as an independent that he would join FF within a year and Matt Shanahan confirmed in the interview that he canvassed for Paudie Coffey in the last election and would join FF if the deal was right...... says a lot about the individual himself on those statements alone.

Canvassed for FG but would be open to joining FF!?

From what I've listened to and observed from Shanahan I think he'd struggle pretty badly as a TD - however there are plenty like him.

14-01-2020 02:49PM

Imagine going from a fine representative like Mary Roche to Matt Shanahan...

Quigs Snr · 14-01-2020 03:19PM

Gardner wrote: »

Heard Matt Shanahan on DT show this morning. car crash stuff. Said it here when Eddie Mulligan ran as an independent that he would join FF within a year and Matt Shanahan confirmed in the interview that he canvassed for Paudie Coffey in the last election and would join FF if the deal was right...... says a lot about the individual himself on those statements alone.

.. well this i would respect to some degree in that if your goal is to get elected on the basis of a local issue that you would get into bed with anyone who would help you achieve that goal.

Of course its awful.. parish pump and all that, but whatever if thats what the people want... at least they know what they are getting.

.... unlike the peoples champion, Halligan who is likely going to retire now that he has the pension pot he has craved for so long. Too bad. Had high hopes for him for a little while. He wouldnt stand a chance of reelection though.

hardybuck · 14-01-2020 05:29PM

Quigs Snr wrote: »

.. well this i would respect to some degree in that if your goal is to get elected on the basis of a local issue that you would get into bed with anyone who would help you achieve that goal.

Of course its awful.. parish pump and all that, but whatever if thats what the people want... at least they know what they are getting.

.... unlike the peoples champion, Halligan who is likely going to retire now that he has the pension pot he has craved for so long. Too bad. Had high hopes for him for a little while. He wouldnt stand a chance of reelection though.

It's the same sort of stuff the Healy Rae family do in Kerry. Jackie supported FF administrations for years and got stuff that his area wouldn't and probably shouldn't have got in normal circumstances.

I would prefer a scenario where a skilled public representative advocated for their area and achieved results via appropriate channels, rather than propping up a Government that will throw them a few crumbs to buy their support.

I disagree that Halligan wouldn't stand a chance of re-election - definitely in the mix for a seat.

Dr. Baltar · 14-01-2020 08:12PM

Not looking like a geat line-up to choose from, is it?

Max Powers · 14-01-2020 08:34PM

hardybuck wrote: »

It's the same sort of stuff the Healy Rae family do in Kerry. Jackie supported FF administrations for years and got stuff that his area wouldn't and probably shouldn't have got in normal circumstances.

I would prefer a scenario where a skilled public representative advocated for their area and achieved results via appropriate channels, rather than propping up a Government that will throw them a few crumbs to buy their support.

I disagree that Halligan wouldn't stand a chance of re-election - definitely in the mix for a seat.

I'd prefer that scenario of a skilled person too but its not happening is it, youre either in the tent or not, thats Ireland, Irish politics, trading favours, etc. Disagree with halligan, I think the writing about not accomplishing anything is clearly on the wall. Yes, you could say that about all 4 but deasy and culinane werent in the tent, butler unlikely to do anything as her first time and halligan was neither in or out, nowhere.maybe butler could do something second time around if FF are biggest party but I wouldnt have much confidence with what I saw. Cullnane to be fair, provided decent opposition, easy enough job though.

Harry Palmr · 14-01-2020 09:51PM

I've decided, I'll vote for the <snip>! Seriously though David Cullinane is the only one who seems fairly competent and focused on issues that I'd consider just. Environment, public sector spending, private exploitation of the job seekers programme etc.

Stopitwillya · 14-01-2020 11:42PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I've decided, I'll vote for the <snip>! Seriously though David Cullinane is the only one who seems fairly competent and focused on issues that I'd consider just. Environment, public sector spending, private exploitation of the job seekers programme etc.

Could you list out his achievements.

Harry Palmr · 14-01-2020 11:59PM

In opposition? Always tricky that. All I can say is that he seems to know his way round the Public Accounts Committ-ee. Doing well on that seems to be a good way into higher things but SF will need to somehow end up being more needed than not post election. I expect FF/FG will stitch things up between themselves again with no room for a genuine coalition with SF, Labour or whoever.

Stopitwillya · 15-01-2020 12:14AM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

In opposition? Always tricky that. All I can say is that he seems to know his way round the Public Accounts Committ-ee. Doing well on that seems to be a good way into higher things but SF will need to somehow end up being more needed than not post election. I expect FF/FG will stitch things up between themselves again with no room for a genuine coalition with SF, Labour or whoever.

Same. Think he is the best politician we have but also think Sinn Fein will always be just opposition. So unfortunately while being a good talker he will never really achieve any real results for Waterford in the way Martin Cullen (motorway and ring road) and Paudie Coffey (North Quays zoneing and Walsh Park) have achieved.

DLS_75 · 15-01-2020 12:15AM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

In opposition? Always tricky that. All I can say is that he seems to know his way round the Public Accounts Committ-ee. Doing well on that seems to be a good way into higher things but SF will need to somehow end up being more needed than not post election. I expect FF/FG will stitch things up between themselves again with no room for a genuine coalition with SF, Labour or whoever.

We know what we’ll get from him, which is a lot of giving out.

I was a Matt fan but his behaviour this week has put me right off him.

Stopitwillya · 15-01-2020 12:22AM

DLS_75 wrote: »

We know what we’ll get from him, which is a lot of giving out.

I was a Matt fan but his behaviour this week has put me right off him.

It suits Sinn Fein to give out. Look at what happened when they had to make tough decisions on the budget locally. They just opposed everything but couldn't even suggest a solution.

Matt could be effective if the main parties need numbers to form a government. Having said that halligan was in that position and failed to deliver.

Wanderer78 · 15-01-2020 05:49AM

Harry Palmr wrote:

In opposition? Always tricky that. All I can say is that he seems to know his way round the Public Accounts Committ-ee. Doing well on that seems to be a good way into higher things but SF will need to somehow end up being more needed than not post election. I expect FF/FG will stitch things up between themselves again with no room for a genuine coalition with SF, Labour or whoever.

I suspect you could be right about ff and fg stitching things again, another confidence and supply wouldn't surprise me, these two have effectively locked out any alternatives

JohnC. · 15-01-2020 08:07AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Rumour has it, hes retiring

Confirmed Halligan is retiring now.

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