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Eir GoMo - €9.99/month SIM only (unlimited calls, texts and 80GB data, 10Gb EU Roam

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 mendo


    mendo wrote: »
    Guys, please make sure that your account has all the premium SMS and premium call services blocked.

    I have deactivated the Premium SMS and calls by sending the PRSMSBAR SMS to 50104, the day my number was activated the 24th of October, yet I was charged for Premium SMS on the 31st of October.

    I have received my first bill and to my surprise, I have been charged for three Premium SMS messages on the 31st of October, despite the fact that I have disabled Premium SMS and calls on my account, the first day my SIM card was activated the 24th of October.

    I have not subscribed to any premium service paid by premium SMS and I would have expected the block I've put on my account to stop this from happening.

    The charge incurred on my account was from a Premium SMS number 57976, 3 x 2.5 euro, for a total of 7.5 euro and this charge is bogus and should have never happened or been allowed to happen.

    I am going to make a complain to ComReg about this incident and also complained to complaints@gomo.ie

    To anyone who mentioned me "subscribing unknowingly" to any premium SMS service, all I can say is that if it hasn't happened to you yet, don't be so sure it won't happen in the future.

    As I've mentioned in my initial post, I have deactivated the Premium SMS and calls by sending the PRSMSBAR SMS to 50104, the day my number was activated the 24th of October, so no one should have been able to charge me.

    The issue looks to be with GoMo as it doesn't look that they can block premium SMS and call services properly.

    The other issue is the Payforit.
    The mobile operators "leak" your number to "third parties" via Payforit and the third parties use a Javascript exploit.

    The networks claim that you must have consented to the charges by “clicking on a link”.
    In reality, javacript exploits known as clickjacking and iFraming auto-subscribe you.
    Just closing a popup can initiate a subscription.

    The networks usually refuse to offer any help to victims of these scams.
    They tell the victims to send a STOP message to the shortcode associated with the service.
    Incredibly they actually expect you to PAY to send this text!
    If you want a refund, the network will usually expect you to negotiate directly with the scammers.

    Under the Payforit rules, networks are supposed to help you once you have attempted and failed to get a refund from the scammers.
    However, the networks usually attempt to shirk these responsibilities.

    Will see what I'll be getting back from GoMo regarding the Premium SMS/calls service access deactivation, but I plan to report them to the ComReg if this hasn't worked and still doesn't work on their side.


    More details on the issue below:
    https://payforitsucks.co.uk/


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,295 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    mendo wrote: »
    To anyone who mentioned me "subscribing unknowingly" to any premium SMS service, all I can say is that if it hasn't happened to you yet, don't be so sure it won't happen in the future.

    As I've mentioned in my initial post, I have deactivated the Premium SMS and calls by sending the PRSMSBAR SMS to 50104, the day my number was activated the 24th of October, so no one should have been able to charge me.

    The issue looks to be with GoMo as it doesn't look that they can block premium SMS and call services properly.

    The other issue is the Payforit.
    The mobile operators "leak" your number to "third parties" via Payforit and the third parties use a Javascript exploit.

    The networks claim that you must have consented to the charges by “clicking on a link”.
    In reality, javacript exploits known as clickjacking and iFraming auto-subscribe you.
    Just closing a popup can initiate a subscription.

    The networks usually refuse to offer any help to victims of these scams.
    They tell the victims to send a STOP message to the shortcode associated with the service.
    Incredibly they actually expect you to PAY to send this text!
    If you want a refund, the network will usually expect you to negotiate directly with the scammers.

    Under the Payforit rules, networks are supposed to help you once you have attempted and failed to get a refund from the scammers.
    However, the networks usually attempt to shirk these responsibilities.

    Will see what I'll be getting back from GoMo regarding the Premium SMS/calls service access deactivation, but I plan to report them to the ComReg if this hasn't worked and still doesn't work on their side.


    More details on the issue below:
    https://payforitsucks.co.uk/

    Again, how do you know that PRSMSBAR SMS to 50104 actually works on GoMo?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭GhostyMcGhost


    BowWow wrote: »
    Comreg have said that they are to be free BY December 1st. So might not yet be included.

    Don’t have it to hand but there was a PDF on the gomo website which listed 1800,1890 etc as included in the minutes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 mendo


    Aquos76 wrote: »
    Again, how do you know that PRSMSBAR SMS to 50104 actually works on GoMo?

    It is clear to me that it doesn't work, but I am waiting for GoMo to respond to my complaint and I will let you all know the method that works.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭killbillvol2


    mendo wrote: »
    To anyone who mentioned me "subscribing unknowingly" to any premium SMS service, all I can say is that if it hasn't happened to you yet, don't be so sure it won't happen in the future.

    As I've mentioned in my initial post, I have deactivated the Premium SMS and calls by sending the PRSMSBAR SMS to 50104, the day my number was activated the 24th of October, so no one should have been able to charge me.

    The issue looks to be with GoMo as it doesn't look that they can block premium SMS and call services properly.

    The other issue is the Payforit.
    The mobile operators "leak" your number to "third parties" via Payforit and the third parties use a Javascript exploit.

    The networks claim that you must have consented to the charges by “clicking on a link”.
    In reality, javacript exploits known as clickjacking and iFraming auto-subscribe you.
    Just closing a popup can initiate a subscription.

    The networks usually refuse to offer any help to victims of these scams.
    They tell the victims to send a STOP message to the shortcode associated with the service.
    Incredibly they actually expect you to PAY to send this text!
    If you want a refund, the network will usually expect you to negotiate directly with the scammers.

    Under the Payforit rules, networks are supposed to help you once you have attempted and failed to get a refund from the scammers.
    However, the networks usually attempt to shirk these responsibilities.

    Will see what I'll be getting back from GoMo regarding the Premium SMS/calls service access deactivation, but I plan to report them to the ComReg if this hasn't worked and still doesn't work on their side.


    More details on the issue below:
    https://payforitsucks.co.uk/

    Sounds like you have history with this.

    Like others mentioned I've never received a premium rate text. Probably because I've never opened an unsolicited message and blocked the number. And pop ups? What are you doing to be getting pop ups on your phone?

    When you sent your message to 50104 did you get a response?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 mendo


    Sounds like you have history with this.

    Like others mentioned I've never received a premium rate text. Probably because I've never opened an unsolicited message and blocked the number. And pop ups? What are you doing to be getting pop ups on your phone?

    When you sent your message to 50104 did you get a response?

    Nope, no history with this before.

    Just to clarify the issue, I did not receive any SMS as such, I've just seen the Premium SMS charge on my first bill.

    Also I've received no SMS confirmation messages of any premium service or any kind of subscription.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 98 ✭✭Charles Leclerc


    First bill today. €10.05. They charged me 6 cent for an international text. I've no idea what this refers to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,547 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    TheDriver wrote: »
    I tried same premium bar but I got reply. Anyone successful in putting on the premium bar?

    I applied the bar & got an instant txt back from eir acknowledging it telling me that the bar will be active in 24hours.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,182 ✭✭✭killbillvol2


    mendo wrote: »
    Nope, no history with this before.

    Just to clarify the issue, I did not receive any SMS as such, I've just seen the Premium SMS charge on my first bill.

    Also I've received no SMS confirmation messages of any premium service or any kind of subscription.

    It sounds like trying to opt out actually signed you up for something. Which would be ridiculous you would think. But this lot are connected to Eir so nothing is impossible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 863 ✭✭✭mydiscworld


    Received my sim card today, 4 days after the date I had selected to start my activation.

    Inserted sim card but network not active. Do I need to contact GoMo to get them to activate it now?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,018 ✭✭✭Trimm Trabb


    Oh no! We tried to move your number to our network but there is already a move in progress for this number. See our FAQs at gomo.ie/joining-getting-started-with-gomo/#move-number on what to do next and how to complete your move. That's it!
    .

    Anyone else encountered this and had it sorted?


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,295 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    First bill today. €10.05. They charged me 6 cent for an international text. I've no idea what this refers to.

    iMESSAGE activation?


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,709 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    First bill today. €10.05. They charged me 6 cent for an international text. I've no idea what this refers to.

    Do you have an Iphone? It is more than likely Facetime or iMessage activation. I think it goes to a UK number?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 98 ✭✭Charles Leclerc


    Aquos76 wrote: »
    iMESSAGE activation?
    No idea, just said international text.

    Off to comreg I go.. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,935 ✭✭✭Ten Pin


    Don’t have it to hand but there was a PDF on the gomo website which listed 1800,1890 etc as included in the minutes

    This is how they word it...
    Out Of Plan Call charges
    *National calls include calls to Irish Mobiles and Landlines, 0818, 076, 1850 and 1890 numbers and calls to Northern Ireland landlines using the 048 prefix (in place of 004428)
    ...which reads as the definition of national calls "out of plan"

    However the plan minutes included are...
    Unlimited calls to Irish mobiles and landlines
    ...but doesn't mention 1890 etc

    The confusion is in the fact that Irish landlines & mobiles are included but they have to quote them in out of plan charges because the limit is 45000 (which is effectively irrelevant since it's practically impossible to spend a full month continuously making phone calls).

    So 1890 etc is extra until end of November, thereafter it's included in the 45000 minutes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,148 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    I got no reply when I texted the PRSMSBAR on GoMo.

    I did get a reply when I texted it on eir before porting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭Paulzx


    Quick question. Sim card arrived today. I'm not at home to check it. However, my online account on GoMo still shows no phone number allocated to me. This means i can't initiate a port.

    Will activating the sim in a phone automatically allocate the sim to my account so i can attempt a port?


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Paulzx wrote: »
    Quick question. Sim card arrived today. I'm not at home to check it. However, my online account on GoMo still shows no phone number allocated to me. This means i can't initiate a port.

    Will activating the sim in a phone automatically allocate the sim to my account so i can attempt a port?

    Don't think so, I didn't pre activate the SIM before today, waited til my signal went and swapped Sims


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭H8GHOTI


    If you ordered a SIM and it was activated in October, you will be charged for the full calendar month of November, even if you haven’t received the SIM.

    When I ordered my SIM, I didn’t know I’d have to sign for it. After an attempted delivery on Monday last week, I used An Post’s redelivery service but still haven’t got it and they have no idea where it is. Also, I put a port date of 15/11/19 but this has no impact on billing. Basically, you get billed regardless of whether you use the service or not.

    I realise that An Post have f***ed up here but if it was made obvious that I’d have to sign for it, I would have got it delivered to work first day. Also, activating the SIM three weeks before the requested port date is shady from GoMo imo.

    My advice, as others have said, order at the start of a month to get the best value. And if you are under contract and can’t port until Dec, Jan, whenever, don’t place an order unless you don’t mind getting charged €9.99 a month for something you won’t be using.


  • Moderators, Regional South Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 6,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    Paulzx wrote: »
    Quick question. Sim card arrived today. I'm not at home to check it. However, my online account on GoMo still shows no phone number allocated to me. This means i can't initiate a port.

    Will activating the sim in a phone automatically allocate the sim to my account so i can attempt a port?

    Your SIM should arrive activated. If it didn't, it's likely An Post didn't scan the packet on delivery as that's what GoMo uses as an activation signal.

    It should eventually activate but you may want to get onto CS and try hurry that process along.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭morgana


    Received my sim card today, 4 days after the date I had selected to start my activation.

    Inserted sim card but network not active. Do I need to contact GoMo to get them to activate it now?

    I have the same, no number/info on MyAccount, webchat made me put it into second phone (pita, had to find old one and charge up, lol) but the same. Been trying to contact webchat again but no go. Send a message, allegedly they contact me in 24 hours.
    Not impressed so far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 mendo


    TheDriver wrote: »
    I got no reply when I texted the PRSMSBAR on GoMo.

    I did get a reply when I texted it on eir before porting.

    I was reading more and it looks like barring premium rate texts is sometimes proposed as a way of stopping these scams but it won’t work.

    It will prevent you sending premium rate texts, and may prevent you from seeing incoming premium rate texts.

    It will not stop you from being charged for incoming premium rate texts.

    To stop these charges, you need a bar on third party charges to your account, but I've idea if GoMo or any Irish mobile operator has the means to do so.

    https://payforitsucks.co.uk/barring-third-party-charges/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    The comments re problems with activation have put me off changing to them.
    Will wait & watch...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,148 ✭✭✭✭TheDriver


    dinneenp wrote: »
    The comments re problems with activation have put me off changing to them.
    Will wait & watch...

    There's probably 40k changed and vast vast majority have no issues. You don't post online when there's nothing wrong........


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,295 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    dinneenp wrote: »
    The comments re problems with activation have put me off changing to them.
    Will wait & watch...

    I've switched about 15 people to GoMo at this stage and not a single problem with any of them. I've spoken to people who have had problems with porting and it was down to them not know the difference between prepay and post pay and also not knowing their account number. I'm not saying this is the same for everyone, but you can be sure its a large percentage of people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 mendo


    mendo wrote: »
    I was reading more and it looks like barring premium rate texts is sometimes proposed as a way of stopping these scams but it won’t work.

    It will prevent you sending premium rate texts, and may prevent you from seeing incoming premium rate texts.

    It will not stop you from being charged for incoming premium rate texts.

    To stop these charges, you need a bar on third party charges to your account, but I've idea if GoMo or any Irish mobile operator has the means to do so.

    https://payforitsucks.co.uk/barring-third-party-charges/


    Two more helpful links for people getting unauthorized Premium SMS charges.

    https://www.surecloud.com/sc-blog/bbc-watchdog-research-paper-payforit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 653 ✭✭✭Gonad


    Disaster . Never received sim . Took 10 euro on 15th and got an email today to say they were taking another bill on the 10th . Also no service now on my Eir sim ?

    Never replied to my email and chat got cut off yesterday after an hour waiting .

    How do you cancel this crap ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,075 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    mendo wrote: »
    Two more helpful links for people getting unauthorized Premium SMS charges.

    https://www.surecloud.com/sc-blog/bbc-watchdog-research-paper-payforit

    http://mobilepaymentsupport.com/

    who are mobilepaymentsupport? why is their site insecure?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 324 ✭✭Hardtochoose


    TheDriver wrote: »
    There's probably 40k changed and vast vast majority have no issues. You don't post online when there's nothing wrong........

    Out of 4 sims in this household that switched, all 4 having issue.

    Me- 15 days later, cannot receive calls or sms
    oH - not receiving any sms
    Parents - ports haven’t gone through , tried twice . Correct details, support are hopeless.

    There’s definitely issues with gomo, and the problem is that support is basically non existent if something goes wrong.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,075 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Gonad wrote: »
    Disaster . Never received sim . Took 10 euro on 15th and got an email today to say they were taking another bill on the 10th . Also no service now on my Eir sim ?

    Never replied to my email and chat got cut off yesterday after an hour waiting .

    How do you cancel this crap ?

    How is there no service on your eir sim? They won't start any porting until you account is active which can't happen prior to you receiving your SIM card.


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