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Fine Gael TD sues Dublin Hotel after falling off swing

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  • #8952
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Phoenix magazine has an article on what has been going on behind the scenes in this mess. I'll give a quick summary-

    -A couple of weeks back a 'senior source' within FG leaked that the party may run four candidates in Dun Laoighire. Four candidates for two seats doesnt make electoral sense so the speculation is that Maria Bailey is for the chop. The 'senior source' was Paschal o'Donohue, director of elections. This then prompted Richard Bruton to come out and ask for mercy for Maria. Speculation is he did so to cosy up to Simon Coveney, probably because Tricky Dicky wants to get his hands on Paschals job and Coveney can facilitate that.

    -Maria Bailey backed Simon Coveney in the leadership contest vs. Varadkar. Coveneys camp feels that if Leo returns with less seats than Michael Martin in the next general election then Leo is toast and in will swoop the merchant prince from Cork. Problem for Coveney is he needs every vote from the parliamentary party, hence he has been supporting Bailey in private. Coveney carried Maria Baileys fathers coffin at the funeral and made a speech about him from the alter.

    -The local FG party members in DL feel that Bailey being on the ticket means they cannot retain two seats. Word is that if Leo does not act then they will. TDs and party members in other Dublin constituencies feel that Bailey on the ticket means they cannot win a second seat in any constituency, such is her toxicity. There is a latent anger and if she runs then candidates canvassing in other constituencies are going to be taking flak from voters over her.

    Sounds like she is a gonner. Not because she engaged in insurance fraud though, that is fine and dandy within Fine Gael. Shes a gonner because its politically expedient to do so, its the old story of a lack of morals, backbone and putting the party before the country.


  • #8953
    happyoutscan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,104 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    Fine Gael really are pathetic. Rotten to the ****ing core.


  • #8954
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Phoenix magazine has an article on what has been going on behind the scenes in this mess. I'll give a quick summary-

    -A couple of weeks back a 'senior source' within FG leaked that the party may run four candidates in Dun Laoighire. Four candidates for two seats doesnt make electoral sense so the speculation is that Maria Bailey is for the chop. The 'senior source' was Paschal o'Donohue, director of elections. This then prompted Richard Bruton to come out and ask for mercy for Maria. Speculation is he did so to cosy up to Simon Coveney, probably because Tricky Dicky wants to get his hands on Paschals job and Coveney can facilitate that.

    -Maria Bailey backed Simon Coveney in the leadership contest vs. Varadkar. Coveneys camp feels that if Leo returns with less seats than Michael Martin in the next general election then Leo is toast and in will swoop the merchant prince from Cork. Problem for Coveney is he needs every vote from the parliamentary party, hence he has been supporting Bailey in private. Coveney carried Maria Baileys fathers coffin at the funeral and made a speech about him from the alter.

    -The local FG party members in DL feel that Bailey being on the ticket means they cannot retain two seats. Word is that if Leo does not act then they will. TDs and party members in other Dublin constituencies feel that Bailey on the ticket means they cannot win a second seat in any constituency, such is her toxicity. There is a latent anger and if she runs then candidates canvassing in other constituencies are going to be taking flak from voters over her.

    Sounds like she is a gonner. Not because she engaged in insurance fraud though, that is fine and dandy within Fine Gael. Shes a gonner because its politically expedient to do so, its the old story of a lack of morals, backbone and putting the party before the country.

    Interesting one. Explains Bruton's bizarre show of support.

    Fine Gael really do seem be rudderless now. I thought Leo would be good but he has Enda's affliction of not being able to take tough decisions.


  • #8955
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Snow Garden wrote: »
    Interesting one. Explains Bruton's bizarre show of support.

    Fine Gael really do seem be rudderless now. I thought Leo would be good but he has Enda's affliction of not being able to take tough decisions.

    Enda was a clown raised beyond his abilities, Leo is a vacuous individual obsessed by a sense of his own importance, this is depressing anything I say can be applied to every serving clown we have. Voting is a waste of time as we have such a piss poor pool to choose from .


  • #8956
    McMurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Sounds like she is a gonner. Not because she engaged in insurance fraud though, that is fine and dandy within Fine Gael. Shes a gonner because its politically expedient to do so, its the old story of a lack of morals, backbone and putting the party before the country.

    Bingo Muh, excellent summarisation, insurance fraud is ok with FG if they are dependent on numbers for the party.

    It certainly puts a new light on the horse sh1t campaign leo embarked on about welfare cheats cheating us all.

    Insurance cheats do likewise Leo including those who enable or encourage it, and you have a few in your midst, right up there in ministerial roles.


  • #8957
    astrofool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,885 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Sooo, FF back in business? I'm not sure if SwingGate will have as much an effect as those n here think it will (esp. if she's deselected), I'd imagine there might be more anger around the cost of the Children's hospital and Broadband. They could completely reverse it by bringing in legislation to reduce insurance payouts.


  • #8958
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    a 'former' FGer getting some comeuppance...
    A county councillor faces a significant legal bill arising out of his failed High Court bid to halt an ethics inquiry into comments he made while being secretly filmed by RTÉ's Primetime Programme.

    At the High Court on Tuesday Mr Justice Garrett Sims ruled that Monaghan County Councillor Hugh McElvaney should pay the legal costs of proceedings the politician brought against the Standards in Public Office Commission.


  • #8959
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    a 'former' FGer getting some comeuppance...

    Hugh will have to show them the money.


  • #8960
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,306 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    a 'former' FGer getting some comeuppance...
    Is this the 10 grand would be a start guy?
    Who said he was just playing along....

    What a scumbag.....he got in again anyway!


  • #8961
    mike_cork
    Registered Users Posts: 602 ✭✭✭mike_cork


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/fine-gael-risk-election-chances-if-bailey-issue-not-put-to-bed-950492.html

    Senior party sources have admitted the party fears the Swing-gate controversy will decimate its support in the key battleground and some are calling for Ms Bailey to stand down for the good of the party.

    With Mr Barrett retiring, the party is resigned to losing one seat, but the Bailey controversy could really hurt its chances of retaining power nationally.

    “Dun Laoghaire is one constituency we cannot afford to lose two seats, it simply cannot happen. That simply is the reality,” said one senior party source.


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  • #8962
    deiseindublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭deiseindublin


    I'd say it's a dead cert that it will hurt power retention chances, no matter what the lovely Maria does now.


  • #8963
    McMurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Maria is the new dead cat that Noonan likened Irish Water to.

    She needs to be dragged off the pitch.

    Meeeeow.


  • #8964
    inforfun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,862 ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    With Mr Barrett retiring, the party is resigned to losing one seat, but the Bailey controversy could really hurt its chances of retaining power nationally.


    "Dun Laoghaire is one constituency we cannot afford to lose two seats, it simply cannot happen. That simply is the reality,”

    Here is funny thought: If you had kicked the 2 or 3 insurance scammers out of the party the moment their fraudulent behaviour became public knowledge, you actually might have won a few votes.


  • #8965
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    Fine Gael is putting way too much focus on Dun Laoghaire.

    The fraudulent insurance claims from Farrell and Bailey aided and abetted by Madigan will affect votes in each and every constituency in GE 2020.


  • #8966
    golfball37
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,715 ✭✭✭golfball37


    It’s beyond Maria stepping aside at this stage. The inaction of the party on the whole issue is now the issue. Bailey standing aside would be too little too late.


  • #8967
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Excuse my ignorance but what has Farrell and Madigan done?


  • #8968
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Maria's less than genuine claims became public knowledge last May here we are at the start of the new Dail term and it's still making the papers. Didn't someone say it would all be forgotten by the Summer recess? lol. Although he has been quiet of late isn't that so?


  • #8969
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Excuse my ignorance but what has Farrell and Madigan done?

    For Farell

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057890004

    Madigan gave initial legal advice to Bailey

    The rest of her involvement is unknown thanks to the internal report not being released

    Many have a big suspicion Madigan is more involved than Fg are letting on


  • #8970
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    I don't know how they can keep a straight face.
    Year on year record breaking crises and we're sold 'stability'.

    If Maria is an example of FG stability, well.... :):)


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  • #8971
    salmocab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,409 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Ten Pin wrote: »
    Anyone rushing to vote for FF...
    https://www.thejournal.ie/varadkar-election-micheal-martin-4807249-Sep2019/

    FF & FG are one and the same, vote for one self serving party, get the other thrown in for free.

    Everyone is aware that they are basically the same, except their members and voters


  • #8972
    Pintman Paddy Losty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Maria's less than genuine claims became public knowledge last May here we are at the start of the new Dail term and it's still making the papers. Didn't someone say it would all be forgotten by the Summer recess? lol. Although he has been quiet of late isn't that so?

    That was me.

    I claimed that the news cycle would have moved on come September. Brexit would be back on the agenda and the only people continuing to bang on about Deputy Bailey would be the cranks in here.

    I was pretty bang on the money. Very little in the media since "Silly Season" ended.

    The pintman called it right. Once again. Fair dues.


  • #8973
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    That was me.

    I claimed that the news cycle would have moved on come September. Brexit would be back on the agenda and the only people continuing to bang on about Deputy Bailey would be the cranks in here.

    I was pretty bang on the money. Very little in the media since "Silly Season" ended.

    The pintman called it right. Once again. Fair dues.

    I reckon your team will get in next election. With FG playing second fiddle I suppose you'll be out of work? Unless you get a job with FG pretending to be a FF supporter?


  • #8974
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    salmocab wrote: »
    Everyone is aware that they are basically the same, except their members and voters
    They understand it's one or the other no matter how much you jump up and down.


  • #8975
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    That was me.

    I claimed that the news cycle would have moved on come September. Brexit would be back on the agenda and the only people continuing to bang on about Deputy Bailey would be the cranks in here.

    I was pretty bang on the money. Very little in the media since "Silly Season" ended.

    The pintman called it right. Once again. Fair dues.
    Today's Examiner contradicts your claim.


  • #8976
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Today's Examiner contradicts your claim.

    And that's the Pintman back in his box for another stretch, expect umpteenth "nothing to see here folks" lament down the line.


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  • #8977
    Odyssey 2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,065 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    I've used this company many times.
    Tick

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  • #8978
    jmreire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,580 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    That was me.

    I claimed that the news cycle would have moved on come September. Brexit would be back on the agenda and the only people continuing to bang on about Deputy Bailey would be the cranks in here.

    I was pretty bang on the money. Very little in the media since "Silly Season" ended.

    The pintman called it right. Once again. Fair dues.

    Paddy,,, wait and see what the voter's think when they are voting...because there is not a motorist or business person who has not been royally screwed by the insurer's... and the insurers are laying the blame on the high cost of ,claims from the likes of Bailey and Farrell, to name just two...,so no, it will not evaporate, and I'm pretty sure that the pot will simmer away on the back boiler until election time, and then it will bubble up again...strong as ever.


  • #8979
    salmocab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,409 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    is_that_so wrote: »
    They understand it's one or the other no matter how much you jump up and down.

    I wouldn’t go that far, its one or the other but the jumping up and down will decide by what size their coalition partners are. The current one is a mess of inept FG leaders and some of the worst independents that money can buy. Ross and Zapone leading the charge of people given jobs they can’t do and even with these fools on board they can’t get a majority.


  • #8980
    salmocab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,409 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    jmreire wrote: »
    Paddy,,, wait and see what the voter's think when they are voting...because there is not a motorist or business person who has not been royally screwed by the insurer's... and the insurers are laying the blame on the high cost of ,claims from the likes of Bailey and Farrell, to name just two...,so no, it will not evaporate, and I'm pretty sure that the pot will simmer away on the back boiler until election time, and then it will bubble up again...strong as ever.

    Your wasting your time he’s talking about himself in third person, he’s taken a slurp from Trumps cup there with the self Congratulations that haven’t been earned.


  • #8981
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    astrofool wrote: »
    Sooo, FF back in business? I'm not sure if SwingGate will have as much an effect as those n here think it will (esp. if she's deselected), I'd imagine there might be more anger around the cost of the Children's hospital and Broadband. They could completely reverse it by bringing in legislation to reduce insurance payouts.

    They could but they won’t....all we will hear about now is Brexit to try and deflect all attention away from the mess......

    Even Waterford whispers still taking the pee out of them
    http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2019/02/04/government-confirm-intention-to-use-brexit-as-excuse-for-everything/


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  • #8982
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,853 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    I don’t agree the the prime culprit is disgusting get thieves like Maria Bailey. Why are these ridiculous claims being paid out ? Its the judges that are most to Blame in my opinion and probably politicians most for not capping payments etc , if the legal profession are taking the piss


  • #8983
    Pintman Paddy Losty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Today's Examiner contradicts your claim.

    No one reads that backwater parochial rag.


  • #8984
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    No one reads that backwater parochial rag.

    You made a claim, basically you were shown to be a liar. Best to accept and move on. ;-)


  • #8985
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Examiner2.jpg

    Deary me, what have you done Simon


  • #8986
    mikemac2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,972 ✭✭✭mikemac2


    Johnny Dogs wrote: »
    Maria is the new dead cat that Noonan likened Irish Water to.

    She needs to be dragged off the pitch.

    Meeeeow.

    Yes but don’t stray offside on the pitch

    Maria Bailey knows offside in GAA ;)


  • #8987
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Terrible from Simon but Leo should have overuled him. Weak as a kitten.


  • #8988
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Coveney was the only one coming out of this looking good but now he made a pigs ear out of that


  • #8989
    Patrick2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,382 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    What’s this about her now being liable for significant legal and medical bills? She ran a 10k 4 years ago after falling off the swing, what is Leo going on about? Did she not have health insurance?


  • #8990
    McMurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    No one reads that backwater parochial rag.

    SillyCorruptAngelwingmussel-size_restricted.gif


  • #8991
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,853 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    If fg won’t support workers as they claim too. I’ll happily vote for the other disgrace that is ff, to remove varadkAr that disgrace as Taoiseach will be enough for me ...


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  • #8992
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    If fg won’t support workers as they claim too. I’ll happily vote for the other disgrace that is ff, to remove varadkAr that disgrace as Taoiseach will be enough for me ...
    Until you manage to label Martin an utter or thundering disgrace! :)


  • #8993
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,853 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Until you manage to label Martin an utter or thundering disgrace! :)

    Yeah but mm hasn’t lied about so much. Spoken so much and delivered so little. All varadkar cares about is varadkar and the limelight !


  • #8994
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Coveney was the only one coming out of this looking good but now he made a pigs ear out of that
    He was never involved in it in any way. Article claims Varadkar wanted to kick her out but that's no redemption for him!


  • #8995
    jmreire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,580 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    No one reads that backwater parochial rag.

    Its not the reader's of " Parochial Rag's" ( your word's Paddy,,, ) that you need to concern yourself with Paddy.....it's all the People who read their renewal quotes each year for their insurance...


  • #8996
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Idbatterim wrote: »
    Yeah but mm hasn’t lied about so much. Spoken so much and delivered so little. All varadkar cares about is varadkar and the limelight !
    :D:D:D:D:D Do look up his tenure as MoH!

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/martin-spent-eur30m-on-health-reports-1.1164662


  • #8997
    McMurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    is_that_so wrote: »
    :D:D:D:D:D Do look up his tenure as MoH!

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/martin-spent-eur30m-on-health-reports-1.1164662

    Leo certainly won't be sneering at anyone elses record in health either.


  • #8998
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Johnny Dogs wrote: »
    Leo certainly won't be sneering at anyone else's record in health either.
    For me only one MoH has ever really stood out and that's Harney but her time was not wholly successful either. It's called Angola for a reason - it's still a potential political career destroyer.


  • #8999
    GarIT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Odyssey 2005 wrote: »
    I've used this company many times.
    Tick

    Tock


    https://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/irish-news/all-leisure-activities-in-ireland-will-soon-be-gone-events-manager-unable-to-rent-out-inflatables-slams-judges-over-compo-awards-38495259.html

    That is a load of nonsense. I have a strong dislike of Bailey but that article is just putting people against people, arguing for reduced claims when claims haven't gone up only insurance company profits have.

    What we need is a single public insurer.


  • #9000
    Auguste Comte
    Registered Users Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Auguste Comte


    GarIT wrote: »
    T

    What we need is a single public insurer.

    And a government that won't tolerate scammers within their parliamentary party.

    ABFG


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  • #9001
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    is_that_so wrote: »
    For me only one MoH has ever really stood out and that's Harney but her time was not wholly successful either. It's called Angola for a reason - it's still a potential political career destroyer.

    Harney the Minister responsible who created the HSE and a double layer of management and bureaucracy as well as outsourcing smear tests to the US. Lots of women with cancer now would strongly disagree that Harney "stood out" :rolleyes: Her decisions as Minister for Health have literally cost people their lives


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