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Fine Gael TD sues Dublin Hotel after falling off swing

  • 21-05-2019 8:15am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,863 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    You actually couldn't make this sh*t up!

    Fine Gael TD Maria Bailey has sued the Dean after falling off Sophies swing.

    She's looking for €60,000.

    When the Politicians are making dodgey insurance claims, you know for sure that the country is absolutely fooked!

    If they take away that swing, what the hell are the Dublin Girls of Tinder going to do!? :eek::eek::eek:

    https://www.herald.ie/news/courts/td-had-items-in-both-hands-when-she-fell-off-swing-hotel-claims-38131916.html
    Fine Gael TD Maria Bailey was holding items in both of her hands when she fell out of a swing, a hotel she is suing over the incident claims.
    Ms Bailey (43) has sued the Dean Hotel in Dublin for damages of up to €60,000 over injuries she alleges she suffered to her head, back and hip.

    The Dun Laoghaire TD says she fell backwards out of an indoor swing while having her photo taken during a night out with friends in 2015.

    In circuit court proceedings, she accused the hotel of negligence, saying the swing was "unsupervised" and there were no signs to instruct patrons how to safely use it.

    Pain

    Ms Bailey claimed she can no longer sit or stand for long periods without experiencing pain or discomfort. She also said she used to run 70km a week before the fall, but has had to reduce this to less than 20km.

    The hotel is denying liability, saying that if any injury was suffered, this was due to Ms Bailey's own negligence or contributory negligence.

    In defence papers filed with the court, the hotel alleged she failed to use the swing in a proper manner and held items in both hands, restricting her ability to balance and preventing her from holding rope grips properly.

    The indorsement of claim filed in court by Ms Bailey's solicitors makes no mention of her holding anything in her hands when she fell.

    Details of the case have emerged at a time when there is considerable political focus on personal injury awards and high insurance costs.

    Ms Bailey's case was briefly mentioned before the County Registrar at Dublin Circuit Civil Court yesterday.

    Grainne Berkery BL, for Holtend Limited, trading as the Dean Hotel, told the registrar that on consent Ms Bailey had six weeks to file an affidavit of discovery.

    It is understood this is to satisfy a request for medical and dental records for the three years prior to the alleged incident. Discovery is a routine part of such cases.

    Ms Bailey was not in court. She is being represented by Madigan Solicitors, a law firm run by a brother of Culture Minister Josepha Madigan. Ms Madigan, a solicitor, stepped away from the firm after becoming a TD.

    In her action, lawyers for Ms Bailey, of Woodside Road, Sandyford, Dublin 18, said she was at the trendy Harcourt Street hotel with a group of friends on July 13, 2015. They said that at around 9pm, her party went to the top floor, where there was "a swing unit".

    Her solicitors said she was sitting on a swing "unsupervised", having her photo taken by friends, "when she was caused to fall backwards".

    She struck the ground, with her hip, lower back and head taking the brunt of the impact, according to the claim.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    €60K is the maximum payout the court can award, it’s not necessarily what she’s asking for.

    If her claim is that she fell off a swing then she should **** off. But if the swing fell while she was on it and she was injured that may not be her fault.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,214 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    No fan of FG, but would it not be correct to wait until the case concludes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Now now OP there's not much evidence that her claim is dodgy (at the moment)


    Alan Farrel on the other hand.......

    Double facepalm for Alan mind you as he actually took part in a campaign to put an end to spurious claims.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,880 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    amcalester wrote: »
    €60K is the maximum payout the court can award, it’s not necessarily what she’s asking for.
    It's kind of not really the point...do you think they should have someone supervising adults on the swing?.
    It will make her a laughing stock and rightly so, but doubt she will care as she is laughing all the way to the bank


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    She sat on a swing with items in both her hands.
    Rule no12 of the playground, always grab on when getting on a swing.
    Eejit.


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    It’s great that our TDs lead by example. If you need money for a deposit for a house / holiday / whatever you’re having yourself just destroy some business with a claim. Is it any wonder we have such high insurance premiums??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    gmisk wrote: »
    It's kind of not really the point...do you think they should have someone supervising adults on the swing?.
    It will make her a laughing stock and rightly so, but doubt she will care as she is laughing all the way to the bank

    I hit submit to quick and added and edit.

    If she fell of the swing of her own accord then she deserves nothing but ridicule.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Faith+1


    Shes a TD who doesn't understand the complexities of a swing.......makes sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Actually just seen this bit.

    In circuit court proceedings, she accused the hotel of negligence, saying the swing was "unsupervised" and there were no signs to instruct patrons how to safely use it.

    She needs signs to instruct her how to use a swing.

    This is a person elected to legislate.

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,127 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    What a moron. I’ve seen people absolutely pissed use it with no issue!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,211 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Adults need supervision now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,601 ✭✭✭Hoboo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭TCM


    Adult was not "supervised" on a swing. Hard to believe it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Can they install a noose for the next time she visits?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,863 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    No fan of FG, but would it not be correct to wait until the case concludes?
    Now now OP there's not much evidence that her claim is dodgy (at the moment)


    Alan Farrel on the other hand.......

    Double facepalm for Alan mind you as he actually took part in a campaign to put an end to spurious claims.

    Ah C'mon, the Swing is not really a playground swing, it's a swing you just sit on, and get you picture taken for Tinder/POF/Bumble/etc. It's about 1.5 feet off the ground.
    There is no way falling off it could seriously injure you.

    She's taking the p!ss!
    amcalester wrote: »
    €60K is the maximum payout the court can award, it’s not necessarily what she’s asking for.

    If her claim is that she fell off a swing then she should **** off. But if the swing fell while she was on it and she was injured that may not be her fault.

    She had items in both hands, and sat on the swing and fell off, it didn't break.

    Her argument is the Swing was "unsupervised". :rolleyes:
    She's a grown woman FFS!

    If she wins that could effect every playground that has a swing in the country!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,639 ✭✭✭✭OldGoat


    razorblunt wrote: »
    She sat on a swing with items in both her hands.
    Rule no12 of the playground, always grab on when getting on a swing.
    Eejit.
    I'm intrigued now as to the other rules of the playground. If it's not already on the list can we add "Don't do a Legolas on the slide".

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭Xodar


    As this is AH am I permitted to assert that she is a) a dumb cůnt and b) abdocating her responsibility as an adult and c) attempting a fraudulent act?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Auguste Comte


    Bambi wrote: »
    Can they install a noose for the next time she visits?
    Please make sure the put proper instructions with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    It's amazing how gentle humans have become.
    You fall off a swing due to your own stupidity and it's somehow not your fault cause you weren't told how to use a swing properly?
    Why do we even bother working if we can make a years salary by being a complete an utter bag of gob****e


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,863 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    Actually just seen this bit.




    She needs signs to instruct her how to use a swing.

    This is a person elected to legislate.


    :pac:


    This!!!!!
    This is the f**king point!

    This Person has been elected to run a country and doesn't know how to use a Swing!

    This person then gets on the swing despite not knowing how to use it, falls off and expects €60k!!!!!???


    WTF!?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭SeeMoreBut


    When the TD's go complaining about insurance costs they won't mention this case as a reason.

    If she gets 60k how much does it cost in total?

    €80k, €100k when you take into other costs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,127 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Driving down steps. Falling off swings! Some shower of morons we elect!


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭ToBeFrank123


    At least she will appeal to the "swing voter" at the next election.

    Get it? Swing?

    I'll get my coat...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,211 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    grahambo wrote: »
    This!!!!!
    This is the f**king point!

    This Person has been elected to run a country and doesn't know how to use a Swing!

    This person then gets on the swing despite not knowing how to use it, falls off and expects €60k!!!!!???


    WTF!?

    She needs adult supervision :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭boardie100




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,211 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    At least she will appeal to the "swing voter" at the next election.

    Get it? Swing?

    I'll get my coat...
    Lol
    stay..it was funny!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Adults need supervision now?

    TDs do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    OldGoat wrote: »
    I'm intrigued now as to the other rules of the playground. If it's not already on the list can we add "Don't do a Legolas on the slide".

    No1. No talking about the Playground.
    No2. No talking about the Playground.
    No3. If this is your first day at the Playground, you have to go face first down the slide.
    No4. Don't wear shorts on hot days on the slide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    Now now OP there's not much evidence that her claim is dodgy (at the moment)


    Alan Farrel on the other hand.......

    Double facepalm for Alan mind you as he actually took part in a campaign to put an end to spurious claims.
    Double Facepalm for Fine Gael.. For not convincing these two to join another party. and didn't another sue a paper for a daft headline?


    Alan Farrell actually singled out kids in playgrounds as a reason compo culture should not be tolerated, and less than a year later, he and his colleague have brought two ridiculous cases to court.
    If a swing isn't the perfect example of kids playground insurance premiums...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    The PR people in FG should have told her that this would not look good.

    However it is very likely that this will either succeed in court or be settled.

    The hotel which has an indoor swing where it knows drunk people will be using it should have known better also. Its all grand to be giving out about dodgy claims and rip-off insurance and so on but business owners need to use a bit of cop on too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,211 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    razorblunt wrote: »
    No1. No talking about the Playground.
    No2. No talking about the Playground.
    No3. If this is your first day at the Playground, you have to go face first down the slide.
    No4. Don't wear shorts on hot days on the slide.

    When i was 11 i cut my back open on a slide once.

    There was a sharp bit ...it was my own fault my friend warned me and said don't lean back...but i was wild and reckless and also forgetful..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Don't know how people can joke about this tbh. It's pathetic and shows up the type of idiots we elect. Irish apathy is the most frustrating thing in the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    BPKS wrote: »
    The PR people in FG should have told her that this would not look good.

    However it is very likely that this will either succeed in court or be settled.

    The hotel which has an indoor swing where it knows drunk people will be using it should have known better also. Its all grand to be giving out about dodgy claims and rip-off insurance and so on but business owners need to use a bit of cop on too.

    These same hotels probably shouldnt have stairs....or doors...or glass on the premises....coz, yunno...drunk people.

    Ms Bailey is a hoot to watch on the see-saw btw.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,211 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Was Ben Gilroy pushing the swing?

    Whack.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    "was caused to fall backwards"

    You have to love the weasel language.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Well, now I finally know where that swing that appears in 50% of Tinder profiles is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    Is there no personal responsibility whatsoever these days?
    It isn't even a proper swing, you just sit on it to get a picture.
    If she fell off it because of her own stupidity then she has no one to blame but herself. It can't always be someone elses fault ffs.

    Sat at work here wondering what kind of millionaire lifestyle I'd be leading if I put in a claim for every single incident that happened in my life. I'd be rolling in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,863 ✭✭✭Beta Ray Bill


    Well, now I finally know where that swing that appears in 50% of Tinder profiles is.

    This is the other thing!!!!!

    If that swing goes, what are all the chungwans on Tinder going to do.
    Every single one of them has a Sophies swing pic on their Tinder!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,573 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    She should be mortified bringing that to court.She needs supervision while using a swingffs.

    I'm amazed no one in FG told her to cop the **** on and not bring this to court.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Hoboo wrote: »

    43?

    Jaysus she's had a hard life!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,203 ✭✭✭partyguinness


    "unsupervised"....what is she...a 4 year old?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,516 ✭✭✭Wheety


    I hate this stuff. It's why playschools are closing down and kids can't run in the yard anymore. I remember when, as a kid and as an adult, if you fell you just felt embarrassed and tired to walk it off. Now first thoughts are to sue.

    I've sat on one of those swings while waiting for the lift. No one needs instructions on how to use them. The dope had items in both hands. I'm sure she didn't just sit still either. Probably tried to swing with no hands. And these idiots are representing us?? That other eejit driving down the steps before too.

    At least the hotel seem to be fighting it rather than just agreeing a settlement. I hope she loses and has to pay all legal costs too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,196 ✭✭✭PaulieC


    only reasonable course of action is to let your local FG election and European election candidates that you will not vote FG because of this, no matter who the candidate is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    PaulieC wrote: »
    only reasonable course of action is to let your local FG election and European election candidates that you will not vote FG because of this, no matter who the candidate is.

    Yeah that sounds fair and right.

    There will be no one or no parties left to vote for if people won’t vote over one members behavior.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    grown woman wants cash because she fell off a swing

    scumbag. there is no other word.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    I hope her constituents think hard about voting for a woman who thinks she needs instructions on using what a 4 year old can use without instructions. She must be a blithering idiot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    A 43 year old TD suing a hotel because

    A: she was allowed to do so unsupervised

    And

    B: there wasn't a sign instructing her how to safely use it.

    Think about it for a few seconds, instructions on how to operate something most of us have gotten to grips with by age 3/4.

    This is a new level of stupidity and unashameful greediness not seen in ages.

    I hope to jaysis the judge fires the claim out to fcuk and her with it. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,196 ✭✭✭PaulieC


    Yeah that sounds fair and right.

    There will be no one or no parties left to vote for if people won’t vote over one members behavior.

    There is also the other matters of Children's Hospital, homelessness, Climate change, broadband plan, etc., etc. The point is to let them know that you disapprove of her actions and this is the perfect time to do it as it will be forgotten about when the general election comes around.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭Squatter


    Win or lose, I'll certainly be bumping up this thread after the next election is called.


    What are the odds that, if she loses, she'll set up a gofundme page to help her pay her legal costs!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    PaulieC wrote: »
    There is also the other matters of Children's Hospital, homelessness, Climate change, broadband plan, etc., etc. The point is to let them know that you disapprove of her actions and this is the perfect time to do it as it will be forgotten about when the general election comes around.

    Homelessness- scam and gravy train.

    Climate change- only been talked about in the last 2 weeks, what’s your issue with this?

    Broadband plan- many agree with it and say it’s needed.


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