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When did Gemma O Doherty go batshyt crazy?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭KikiLaRue


    I'm happy to see that since this morning there has been a small drop in her following from 24.8k to 24.7k. I think anyone following her just to keep track of the madness or for a laugh or whatever should unfollow today to send a clear message.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    I take she explained what the signs of a false flag are. This sh!t is getting depressingly predictable, someone started a thread about what the 2010’s will be remembered for, this is it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,306 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    francois wrote: »
    I'll go with the latter-She's seen how to monetise hate. She needs to make a bit of cash now that she is unemployable.
    Looks like there is a hashtag starting to trend #deletegemma
    Lets hope she goes the way of that tit Paddy Manning.
    His stunt going to the twitter head office in Dublin demanding a meeting with the CEO was comedy gold, what a clown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,306 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    snip>
    Ok.......:rolleyes:

    Where are you getting all this information from?
    Dare I ask....

    Never mind you can ignore I have read your other posts, I will leave you off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    snip>
    Go get help before you hurt yourself or someone else.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭TaurenDruid


    gmisk wrote: »
    Lets hope she goes the way of that tit Paddy Manning.
    His stunt going to the twitter head office in Dublin demanding a meeting with the CEO was comedy gold, what a clown.

    No, it was cringeworthy. It wasn't even original. It was copying GO'D's previous stunt, "occupying" google HQ the day before her YouTube ban expired. "The Garda Armed Response Unit are here!" - camera pans to a bemused looking Garda on a bike...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,306 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    No, it was cringeworthy. It wasn't even original. It was copying GO'D's previous stunt, "occupying" google HQ the day before her YouTube ban expired. "The Garda Armed Response Unit are here!" - camera pans to a bemused looking Garda on a bike...
    True true.


    Though for me Paddy Manning will always be that odd man standing protesting against the marriage referendum with a large orange sign and the words "GAY MAN".
    Bizarre individual.
    https://twitter.com/PantiBliss/status/601074872245166080


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 127 ✭✭Maurice Yeltsin


    She isnt unhinged or crazy. She is deliberately hatemongering to make profit from the death of 49 people. I hope the Cork Hotels she is supposed to speak at do cancel her bookings. This isnt a free speech issue. She is deliberately causing hatred to be unleashed.

    It absolutely is a free speech issue. Freedom of expression should be allowed to all unless they are actively promoting violence or the advancement of totalitarian, undemocratic government. Let her spread her nonsense to her hearts content- the amount of people actively influenced by her is in the low thousands if even that. Few if any of them are contributing members of our society. Indeed, after they failed to support her presidential run she seems to have swept up plenty of former PBP AAA types who somehow never previously realised the parties views on immigration and Islam were so wildly at odds with their own.

    If Gemma O'Doherty wants to preach conspiracy theories to a handful of jobshy wasters let her knock herself out. It's precisely by giving the likes of Paul Murphy and Ruth Coppinger "enough rope" that over 98 percent of the population see them for the morons that they are. Same rule applies to Gemma. She's a comedian and I enjoy reading her ramblings for the lolz. If you find her content offensive it's your own fault for taking her seriously rather than what she is, a comedy act.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,492 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    ^ Naive in the extreme.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,646 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    It absolutely is a free speech issue. Freedom of expression should be allowed to all unless they are actively promoting violence or the advancement of totalitarian, undemocratic government. Let her spread her nonsense to her hearts content- the amount of people actively influenced by her is in the low thousands if even that. Few if any of them are contributing members of our society. Indeed, after they failed to support her presidential run she seems to have swept up plenty of former PBP AAA types who somehow never previously realised the parties views on immigration and Islam were so wildly at odds with their own.

    If Gemma O'Doherty wants to preach conspiracy theories to a handful of jobshy wasters let her knock herself out. It's precisely by giving the likes of Paul Murphy and Ruth Coppinger "enough rope" that over 98 percent of the population see them for the morons that they are. Same rule applies to Gemma. She's a comedian and I enjoy reading her ramblings for the lolz. If you find her content offensive it's your own fault for taking her seriously rather than what she is, a comedy act.

    And yet G'OD blocks anyone who doesn't agree with her on FB & Twitter :pac:


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  • Subscribers Posts: 41,833 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Any reference to this ville evil piece of excrement should be wiped from each and every media source.
    If her and her ilks poison affects even one susceptible idiot, it's a reason alone to counter this "free speech" argument.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 127 ✭✭Maurice Yeltsin


    ^ Naive in the extreme.

    Naive how? Her content is funny and is not to be taken seriously. The people she influences can't get a job never mind lead a revolution. If anything people like Coppinger and Murphy are far more dangerous, they seek to influence public policy, non platform people, lead a campaign that drove George Hook out of a job and the rugby lads out of the country. They are the real danger. Gemma doesn't even have a coherent manifesto, just vague ramblings about corruption and RTE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,492 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Do you think Gemma's racism and transphobia are funny? The 1970s called and want Bernard Manning's audience member back.

    Naive to think that you can give as much oxygen to these arseholes and people will see them for what they are. Most will, but the more publicity these arseholes get the more support they will get.

    Remember when Trump and Brexit were regarded as laughable notions that could never happen?

    Oh and George Hook has nobody to blame but himself. Victim blaming and victim shaming should never be acceptable.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 127 ✭✭Maurice Yeltsin


    And yet G'OD blocks anyone who doesn't agree with her on FB & Twitter :pac:

    Par for the course for most anti establishment types.


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,833 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Naive how? Her content is funny and is not to be taken seriously. The people she influences can't get a job never mind lead a revolution. If anything people like Coppinger and Murphy are far more dangerous, they seek to influence public policy, non platform people, lead a campaign that drove George Hook out of a job and the rugby lads out of the country. They are the real danger. Gemma doesn't even have a coherent manifesto, just vague ramblings about corruption and RTE.

    Funny????

    No.

    To be taken seriously.

    Absolutely.

    She's a hateful spiteful evil person for the message she spreads.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 127 ✭✭Maurice Yeltsin


    Do you think racism and transphobia are funny? The 1970s called and want Bernard Manning's audience member back.

    I think her unicorn conspiracy is funny, yes. Transphobia is a bit of a subjective term tbh.

    Remember when Trump and Brexit were regarded as laughable notions that could never happen?

    You seem to have a problem with democracy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 127 ✭✭Maurice Yeltsin


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Funny????

    No.

    To be taken seriously.

    Absolutely.

    She's a hateful spiteful evil person for the message she spreads.

    She is funny. She appeals to a permanently angry rage against the machine freeman on the land type. She is light hearted comic relief and by getting so worked up about her rather than laughing at the content you are truly giving her too much credit.

    I'd actually like to see her in the Dail as an independent. For the lolz.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭KikiLaRue


    She is funny. She appeals to a permanently angry rage against the machine freeman on the land type. She is light hearted comic relief and by getting so worked up about her rather than laughing at the content you are truly giving her too much credit.

    I'd actually like to see her in the Dail as an independent. For the lolz.

    There's a lot of legitimately good comedy out there. Gemma does not fall into this category.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 127 ✭✭Maurice Yeltsin


    KikiLaRue wrote: »
    There's a lot of legitimately good comedy out there. Gemma does not fall into this category.

    Deliberately, of course not. But I am baffled as to how someone can be offended by her posts, rather than enjoying them for their comic qualities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,492 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    You seem to have a problem with democracy.

    Whooooooosh.

    Scrap the cap!



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    She is funny. She appeals to a permanently angry rage against the machine freeman on the land type. She is light hearted comic relief and by getting so worked up about her rather than laughing at the content you are truly giving her too much credit.

    I'd actually like to see her in the Dail as an independent. For the lolz.

    She said the murder of fifty people was a false flag... That is not funny. YouTube and twitter are under the no obligation to host her content. They are private businesses so not a freedom of speech issue.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 127 ✭✭Maurice Yeltsin


    batgoat wrote: »
    She said the murder of fifty people was a false flag... That is not funny. YouTube and twitter are under the no obligation to host her content. They are private businesses so not a freedom of speech issue.

    She's entirely entitled to her demented batshyt opinion. As long as she doesn't go harassing victims calling them crisis actors it should be treated as the comedic sideshow that it is.

    No, youtube isn't duty bound to host her, but they host thousands of videos on other daft conspiracies so why wouldn't they. How exactly is Gemma talking nonsense affecting you personally?

    Legislate against these people and you only make it look like they have legitimate views that the government want to silence. Give them every platform available to make a fool of themselves publicly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭KikiLaRue


    She's entirely entitled to her demented batshyt opinion. As long as she doesn't go harassing victims calling them crisis actors it should be treated as the comedic sideshow that it is.

    No, youtube isn't duty bound to host her, but they host thousands of videos on other daft conspiracies so why wouldn't they. How exactly is Gemma talking nonsense affecting you personally?

    Legislate against these people and you only make it look like they have legitimate views that the government want to silence. Give them every platform available to make a fool of themselves publicly.

    Stuff that effects society ultimately impacts me.

    People who are telling brazen lies should be held accountable.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 127 ✭✭Maurice Yeltsin


    Probably my last word on the issue.

    If her content upsets you, rather than makes you laugh, I feel sorry for you. That you can take such nonsense seriously is just baffling to me. She's the funniest thing on Facebook and long may she reign.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭KikiLaRue


    Probably my last word on the issue.

    Bet it won't be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Whenever I read someone posting in the style Maurice Yeltsin currently is, this quote springs to mind:

    Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors.

    They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."


    That Sartre quote is from 1944, 75 years ago, and has never been more true than over the last few years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,339 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    So having read back a few pages it seems gemma did her usual carry on, but I checked on twitter myself to report that tweet but it seems like it's gone. She is retweeting that eijit Dinesh d'souza after he tweeted some rubbish relating to the shootings in Christchurch earlier today. Also, I don't think she has mental health issues, I just think she is a ****stirrer who has found a niche for her ramblings and conspiracy theories.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,951 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Whenever I read someone posting in the style Maurice Yeltsin currently is, this quote springs to mind:

    Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors.

    They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."


    That Sartre quote is from 1944, 75 years ago, and has never been more true than over the last few years.


    It is a conscious tactic used by current Neo-Nazis as a recruiting tool - see also the style guide used by open white supremacist Andrew Anglin to guide his followers on how to present themselves and their propoganda in a way that lets them keep repeating their key points while avoiding being too visibly extremist until they've sufficiently indoctrinated their targets.


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    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/daily-stormer-nazi-style-guide_us_5a2ece19e4b0ce3b344492f2



    Once you are aware of the tactic it becomes very easy to spot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,868 ✭✭✭donspeekinglesh


    francois wrote: »

    The same was posted on Facebook, I reported it, but it doesn't violate Facebook's standards.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    I suppose the good thing about today ensures that she will never be elected to public office. She'll always just be some twisted hateful tweeter from now on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    The Nal wrote: »
    Shameful stuff from her but to be expected. Shes a twisted evil bitch.
    She would have done a great job in the Aras allright. And plenty of gob****es on this site wanted her to get the job


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭Auntie Semite


    As someone who has defended Gemma here, I'm fairly disgusted that she posted this.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    As someone who has defended Gemma here, I'm fairly disgusted that she posted this.

    What did she post?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭Auntie Semite


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    What did she post?

    Saying it was a false flag


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    So how many false flags have there been to take away our freedoms? And why do they keep happening if they were meant to have already ben taken away?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    As someone who has defended Gemma here, I'm fairly disgusted that she posted this.
    Dont be too upset. There will be another anti establishment conspiracy bandwagon along soon you can jump on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Ipso wrote: »
    So how many false flags have there been to take away our freedoms? And why do they keep happening if they were meant to have already ben taken away?

    150 years of false flags going back to the Rothschilds in the 1800s yet.... here we are. With more freedom than ever.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Saying it was a false flag

    A false flag as in it didn't happen or a false flag as in some outside party is the culprit


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    The Nal wrote: »
    150 years of false flags going back to the Rothschilds in the 1800s yet.... here we are. With more freedom than ever.

    Yeah, conspiracy theorists make great psychological case studies.
    Unfortunately with stuff like this, I don't think outrage (as people make careers out of outraging people they disagree with) or censorship will work.
    She needs to be constantly called on her bullsh!t and asked is she a liar or ignorant, along with people who support her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    A false flag as in it didn't happen or a false flag as in some outside party is the culprit

    Not sure yet, she didn't release the details of her exhaustive hour online investigation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,654 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    She is funny. She appeals to a permanently angry rage against the machine freeman on the land type. She is light hearted comic relief and by getting so worked up about her rather than laughing at the content you are truly giving her too much credit.

    I'd actually like to see her in the Dail as an independent. For the lolz.

    It's that sort of complacency got us landed with Trump and Brexit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    B0jangles wrote: »
    It is a conscious tactic used by current Neo-Nazis as a recruiting tool - see also the style guide used by open white supremacist Andrew Anglin to guide his followers on how to present themselves and their propoganda in a way that lets them keep repeating their key points while avoiding being too visibly extremist until they've sufficiently indoctrinated their targets.

    <snip>

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/daily-stormer-nazi-style-guide_us_5a2ece19e4b0ce3b344492f2



    Once you are aware of the tactic it becomes very easy to spot.




    100% this occurs here, day in day out.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    100% this occurs here, day in day out.


    The Huffington post though. What's next BuzzFeed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    The Huffington post though. What's next BuzzFeed?

    Strangely enough, the latter's political reporting has been incredibly accurate on Brexit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    As someone who has defended Gemma here, I'm fairly disgusted that she posted this.
    Yeah this was it for me, I didn't like the anti vax bollocks either , but this is a new low, calling it a false flag !!! ffs!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,492 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The same was posted on Facebook, I reported it, but it doesn't violate Facebook's standards.

    Fûckin' Hitler himself wouldn't violate Facebook's "standards" :rolleyes:

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,868 ✭✭✭donspeekinglesh


    Fûckin' Hitler himself wouldn't violate Facebook's "standards" :rolleyes:

    My report was updated. She took it down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    I don't think a 'U ok hun?' will cut the mustard this time.

    She is actually ill in some manner.

    I dont think she is. I think she is genuinely exploiting a gap in the market to make money for herself.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    As someone who has defended Gemma here, I'm fairly disgusted that she posted this.

    To be honest you should be ashamed for having defended her in the first place. It's not like this is her first vile hateful tweet.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,104 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Hold on, calling it a "false flag" is not necessarily hate-mongering. Can anyone prove it WASN'T? She does not deny that 49 people died. A false flag does not need to have actors. A group with an agenda can recruit someone to murder, but the group behind the atrocity remain hidden and can wash their hands. It will now be more difficult to criticize or question the merits of multiculturalism in the land down under.
    Cool off on the hatred of O'Doherty. She is a woman, so, can't be a great leader because feelings and emotions are too prominent. If she wants a revolution a man should lead it. You lot want to censor her with your beloved hate-speech laws like anti-muslim or anti-semitism laws, thereby giving a potentially evil cabal total unaccountability for their actions. That is if such a powerful, subversive cabal exists or if it was to come into being.

    Nah. She's an extremist hate monger and You're a naive deluded mysogynist.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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