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Who is the worst serial killer

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Fred west, an absolute rotter.

    Fred and Rosemary West. There was a pair of them in it. She was as bad. People forget that.

    And while we’re at it - Brady and Hindley. When Hindley died, it was the first time I wished I believed in hell. And that thought repeated itself on Brady’s death.
    The missus was worse! You'd need to bleach your brain and your soul after reading their Wikipedia page.

    Ángel Maturino Reséndiz, aka The Railway Killer, was pretty terrifying. I usually find serial killer stuff pretty fascinating but I'd to stop listening to a podcast about him. One of those guys on a "divine mission" to rape and bludgeon people to death.

    As bad but not worse, IMO. They were matched evenly, a truly fûcked up meeting of minds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,067 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    John Duffy and David Mulcahy.

    "The Railway Killers".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,556 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    AllForIt wrote: »
    The worst serial killer is the one who killed the least amount of ppl before getting caught.

    That would be two people, if they just get one they only qualify as a killer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭itsnotmyname


    Denis Rader the BTK strangler.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    SeaFields wrote: »
    For me, when children are the victims it trump's it in terms of the worst notwithstanding they are all horrendous, disgusting people being mentioned here.



    I always find him to be a bit of a bullsh!t artist to be honest. All the interviewing he does, acting, etc. No doubt he killed people but I hate that self promoting crap about how bad he was.

    Kinda like Richard Kuklinski. Well, I don’t know if he did self-promoting but I feel like others have exaggerated his “prowess” a bit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 255 ✭✭mcgucc22


    Larry Murphy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,067 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Richard Hillman!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭smurf492


    Richard Ramirez- The Night Stalker... Evil personified


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,344 ✭✭✭Heckler


    Denis Radar AKA BTK (bind, torture, kill) is a frightening man. Just watch the court videos. An absolute lunatic who could be your next door neighbour.

    But a family, church man who gave himself away with his arrogance.

    The original night stalker/east area rapist is a scary, scary man. Thank **** they caught him.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Oasis1974


    No one mentioned Billy Bunter yet. Convicted of 750 murders and eat half em.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,413 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Vasily Blokhin , oversaw the Katyn Forest massacre .
    Thought to have personally executed 7000 Polish men in 28 days .
    All executions were at night over 10 hour shifts with an execution from start to finish taking an average of three minutes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    In US cases, makes me agree with the death penalty (I keep veering between for and against but no ambiguity in those situations).

    I’m anti-capital punishment but yet when I heard someone present at Ted Bundy’s execution say that they saw true fear in his eye’s at the moment of reckoning, I thought “Yes!”.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    The Golden State Killer, Joseph James DeAngelo. Suspected to have killed 13 and raped 50. The details of his conquests are particularly cold. Things like stalking them before hand, hang up calls, breaking in and cutting the phone lines, and constantly calling his victims (the ones he didn’t kill) after his crime to torture them.
    He’d mostly target women and teens who were home alone, but if a man happened to be there he would enter their bedroom, make him turn around in the bed, tie him up and place dishes on his back so he’d know if he moved, all while raping his missus in the next room, over and over.
    He was only caught last year and he was an ex police officer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    1874 wrote: »
    probably someone not yet or ever caught,

    That would make them one of the best. The worst ones are the ones who get themselves caught. Amateurs, the lot of them.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I recall reading somewhere that around 80% of the known serial killers in the last hundred years have been American. If true, probably more down to detection and capture and media exposure. Russia/the former Soviet Union seems to be a hotspot too. Both large countries, with a larger population, good transport infrastructure, lots of wilderness and a sub population of people travelling around and a load of large cities so strangers don't stand out. Ideal for serial killers I'd imagine.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    mcgucc22 wrote: »
    Larry Murphy

    Too late baby, I said that on page 2


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    Did they kill more than one person?

    I could be wrong but wasn't Graham Dwyer mentioned as a suspect in the Raonaid Murray case?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,808 ✭✭✭take everything


    The missus was worse! You'd need to bleach your brain and your soul after reading their Wikipedia page.

    Ángel Maturino Reséndiz, aka The Railway Killer, was pretty terrifying. I usually find serial killer stuff pretty fascinating but I'd to stop listening to a podcast about him. One of those guys on a "divine mission" to rape and bludgeon people to death.

    Reading about the Wests and stuff like the Moors murders always leaves me despairing.

    The mix of brutality, callousness, sexual depravity (by both male and female perpetrators) and the concept of them creating bigger and more powerful than just themselves alone against innocents (like their own daughters for example) always fills me with despair.

    True evil. And as banal as you like (Fred being a bit of "a character" etc).
    Although in these stories, there's always a history of people looking the other way and letting it go on as well.

    Fritzl. The Wests. Saville. They all had previous and were dodgy as **** but people ignored it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    smurf492 wrote: »
    Richard Ramirez- The Night Stalker... Evil personified

    Good god, just read the wiki, it's disturbing... What's even more disturbing is this...

    "By the time of the trial, Ramirez had fans who were writing him letters and paying him visits.[103] Beginning in 1985, Doreen Lioy[104] wrote him nearly 75 letters during his incarceration. In 1988, he proposed to her, and on October 3, 1996, they were married"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭Trump Is Right


    Everything about Dahmer was depraved.

    And yet, in his prison interviews he seemed very sane and even a somewhat likable person... his own father still seemed to like him. And his father didn't strike me as some kind of sick evil person either...

    His crimes certainly were some of the most horrible in history though...

    That's what possibly makes him one of the scariest ever, because his victims probably never suspected him to be a dangerous person until their last moments. Maybe he just had a switch from nice guy to lunatic...??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,229 ✭✭✭✭RMAOK




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 772 ✭✭✭Dublinandy2


    Whichever ones never get caught or detected.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    Whichever ones never get caught or detected.

    Zodiac killer springs to mind


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Sin City


    Gilles de Rais and Elizabeth Bathory were truely monsters of their times

    Nobleman and Royalty getting away with child torture and killings until they both got their comeuppance

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilles_de_Rais

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_B%C3%A1thory


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 282 ✭✭Anthonylfc


    Onoprienko the russian terminator


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭Trump Is Right


    Wibbs wrote: »
    I recall reading somewhere that around 80% of the known serial killers in the last hundred years have been American. If true, probably more down to detection and capture and media exposure. Russia/the former Soviet Union seems to be a hotspot too. Both large countries, with a larger population, good transport infrastructure, lots of wilderness and a sub population of people travelling around and a load of large cities so strangers don't stand out. Ideal for serial killers I'd imagine.

    Sounds like you've planned this out pretty much to perfection... apart from the whole advertising it on the internet part! ;)

    That picture in your avatar... that's not Fr. Jack... that's actually a picture of you, isn't it!? :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,808 ✭✭✭take everything


    Anthonylfc wrote: »
    Onoprienko the russian terminator

    I'm convinced that if the media and people gave them pathetic names and looked down on them there'd be less of them.

    I can easily imagine monikers like "Russian terminator" would make any fool with an urge he can't keep under check and an ability to not get caught to go out and do a bit of serial killing.

    People really are dumb.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭Ariadne


    The Yorkshire Ripper was pretty disturbed. He's in Broadmoor now, which is disturbingly close to where I was living in Reading and where my missus still lives, she went for a walk past Broadmoor one day :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    Dennis Nilsen, the calm way he talked about his murders afterwards makes me think that serial Killers seem to lack that part of the brain that differentiates right from wrong

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Nilsen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,091 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Chikatilo was the worst of all imo. He killed all types and ate nipple and tongues and had a fascination with the uterus too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,197 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    Daniel Kinahan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    Andrei Chikatilo

    Convicted of murdering 52 children and young women. At his trial the evidence was so graphic several of the victims relatives fainted.

    Executed by gunshot in 1994

    andrei-chikatilo-3.jpg?w=700&h=430&crop=1
    I had never heard of him. Just looked him up on Wikipedia. Jesus he was one sick sadist :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Chikatilo was the worst of all imo. He killed all types and ate nipple and tongues and had a fascination with the uterus too.
    He was physically weak so targeted woman and children. One of the male teenagers put up a good fight but only succeeded in biting and breaking his finger. The bite was one of the things that acted against him when arrested. It's says on wikipedia that he emasculated his male victims, which I presume means he cut off their penis? He couldn't get an erection himself so was getting his jollies by torturing those weaker than him. He'd never had attempted to kill a man. Even cowards know their limits.


  • Registered Users Posts: 135 ✭✭Eamonn8448


    religion by far the worse serial killer of all time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    Wibbs wrote: »
    I recall reading somewhere that around 80% of the known serial killers in the last hundred years have been American. If true, probably more down to detection and capture and media exposure. Russia/the former Soviet Union seems to be a hotspot too. Both large countries, with a larger population, good transport infrastructure, lots of wilderness and a sub population of people travelling around and a load of large cities so strangers don't stand out. Ideal for serial killers I'd imagine.
    China is also massive with a large population. They must have loads but they aren't known to be media friendly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,496 ✭✭✭Will I Am Not




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Paddy Cow wrote: »
    He was physically weak so targeted woman and children. One of the male teenagers put up a good fight but only succeeded in biting and breaking his finger. The bite was one of the things that acted against him when arrested. It's says on wikipedia that he emasculated his male victims, which I presume means he cut off their penis? He couldn't get an erection himself so was getting his jollies by torturing those weaker than him. He'd never had attempted to kill a man. Even cowards know their limits.


    A bite mark was crucial to Bundy being convicted too. He bit one of his victims on the bum quite deeply and a forensic dentist was able to prove that that bite pattern matched Bundy’s teeth.

    People always refer to Bundy as handsome. Much like I say Obama was handsome for a politician but in reality was fairly average-looking, so too I think Bundy was merely handsome as serial killers go. But I think how he looked worked with his strategy. He often posed as law enforcement workers or feigned injury so that he could ask young women to help him bring stuff to his car. He was normal-looking and a bit above averagely good-looking whereas most serial killers seem to look a bit haunted and/or unkempt. He looked like your neighbour or uncle. And he exploited this to gain trust. Creepy fücko.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Sin City


    100% yes
    The guy is pure evil

    Though was he convicted of murder
    I do remember hearing he killed kids live streaming on the dark web but did he actually do it?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Heckler wrote: »
    Denis Radar AKA BTK (bind, torture, kill) is a frightening man. Just watch the court videos. An absolute lunatic who could be your next door neighbour.

    But a family, church man who gave himself away with his arrogance.

    The original night stalker/east area rapist is a scary, scary man. Thank **** they caught him.

    Don't think it was arrogance. He was caught because he's an idiot. He asked the cops if they'd be able to trace him, if he corresponded on a floppy disk. They told him no, so he sent one, and they found documents referring to his church and after a very small investigation there, identified him.

    His daughter just recently released a book.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Suzanne Basso comes to mind. Beat and tortured her mentally disabled husband to death over five days for his life insurance. Particularly disturbing is the number of people involved in the torture (neighbours etc..)

    https://www.thoughtco.com/the-crimes-of-suzanne-basso-971328


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,810 ✭✭✭endofrainbow


    David Berkowitz - Son of Sam.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    "By the time of the trial, Ramirez had fans who were writing him letters and paying him visits.[103] Beginning in 1985, Doreen Lioy[104] wrote him nearly 75 letters during his incarceration. In 1988, he proposed to her, and on October 3, 1996, they were married"
    It often happens. Infuriating.
    Wibbs wrote: »
    I recall reading somewhere that around 80% of the known serial killers in the last hundred years have been American.
    And maybe I'm wrong but they seem to be mostly California based.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    A bite mark was crucial to Bundy being convicted too. He bit one of his victims on the bum quite deeply and a forensic dentist was able to prove that that bite pattern matched Bundy’s teeth.

    People always refer to Bundy as handsome. Much like I say Obama was handsome for a politician but in reality was fairly average-looking, so too I think Bundy was merely handsome as serial killers go. But I think how he looked worked with his strategy. He often posed as law enforcement workers or feigned injury so that he could ask young women to help him bring stuff to his car. He was normal-looking and a bit above averagely good-looking whereas most serial killers seem to look a bit haunted and/or unkempt. He looked like your neighbour or uncle. And he exploited this to gain trust. Creepy fücko.
    Ted was no uggo but you're right, he wasn't super handsome. What he was though is charismatic and that increases a persons attractiveness, especially for men. A charismatic person makes people feel good about themselves and they fell safe around the person. They want to spend more time with them and are attracted to them. They can confuse their attraction to the person, with the person being physically attractive.

    That's what makes charismatic people so dangerous. You'd run a mile from an average looking person who is socially awkward and comes across as a weirdo but you might be drawn into an average looking charismatic person who is fun to be around. They're still a weirdo, they just hide it better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,908 ✭✭✭Cazale


    There was a thread on reddit the other day about the large amount of serial killers in the US in the 70s and 80s being a result of soldiers coming home from World War II with PTSD and that being reflected in the next generation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,228 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Robert Underdunk Terwilliger Jr

    He could never quite manage it could he



    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Sideshow Bob


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,228 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    That ****ing Lannister cousin Orson that did in all the beetles, Smash The beetles smash em, I'd say he murderised a few people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,375 ✭✭✭Sin City


    Robert Underdunk Terwilliger Jr

    He could never quite manage it could he

    Funnily enough Kelsey Grammer who plays sideshow bob his sister was murdered by serial killer Freddie Glenn


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭Trump Is Right


    Not sure if he's already been mentioned, but David Parker Ray (AKA 'The Toy Box Killer') has got to be up there on any list of the creepiest and most sadistic...

    I made the mistake of listening to the tape he supposedly played to his prisoners/victims... not something you forget once you've heard it.

    He's suspected of killing as many as 60 people. But never proven.

    h t t p s : //en(dot)wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/David_Parker_Ray

    (Warning: very creepy)

    h t t p s :// w w w(dot)youtube(dot)com/watch?v=gV8EPMeu1X8


  • Registered Users Posts: 855 ✭✭✭moonage


    Al Bundy

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,557 ✭✭✭touts


    Karl Marx. Take him out and there is no Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Family and Hitler (yes Hitler, socialists don't like talking about their estranged brothers National Socialists).

    On an individual level probably Joseph Mengele


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