Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

cagefactor · 01-06-2018 10:28AM

ellejay wrote: »

No, that's not the "rumour."
She worked somewhere else doing something else.

I don't know why the information hasn't been publicly released.

Spill the beans on the rumours

01-06-2018 12:11PM

ellejay wrote: »

No, that's not the "rumour."
She worked somewhere else doing something else.

I don't know why the information hasn't been publicly released.

Eh?

It is speculated in this thread that she was a barmaid.
She wasn't.

What rumour?

Conor1974 · 01-06-2018 12:47PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Eh?

It is speculated in this thread that she was a barmaid.
She wasn't.

What rumour?

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Suckit · 01-06-2018 01:35PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Eh?

It is speculated in this thread that she was a barmaid.
She wasn't.

What rumour?

We are probably better off not knowing. I have a feeling it is something ridiculous.

Jastines remains arrived in Phillipines today.
https://extra.ie/2018/06/01/news/irish-news/jastine-valdezs-remains-arrive-philippines

This is a lovely picture. Very sad.
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Strazdas · 01-06-2018 01:47PM

Suckit wrote: »

We are probably better off not knowing. I have a feeling it is something ridiculous.

Jastines remains arrived in Phillipines today.
https://extra.ie/2018/06/01/news/irish-news/jastine-valdezs-remains-arrive-philippines

This is a lovely picture. Very sad.

That pic was released by her parents yesterday. I have to admit I get a lump in my throat every time I see a photo of her, especially this one. She was a beautiful angel.

tara73 · 01-06-2018 05:53PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Eh?

It is speculated in this thread that she was a barmaid.
She wasn't.

What rumour?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/detectives-search-for-any-link-between-killer-and-his-victim-470992.html

alright, so in this article they wrote: it is reported that she worked in a restaurant in Enniskerry or Bray. Guards are firming it up.

So that's true, it's not confirmed, it's just a rumour.

But how are you so completely sure she wasn't? Do you have special information?

weldoninhio · 01-06-2018 06:24PM

ifElseThen wrote: »

Hannibal Lecter: He covets. That is his nature. And how do we begin to covet, Clarice? Do we seek out things to covet? No. We begin by coveting what we see every day.

My initial thoughts on this was that he was maybe served by Jastine who probably gave him a polite smile while serving him, shot the breeze maybe, and then he became obsessed from afar.

FFS. Grow up.

OldMrBrennan83 · 01-06-2018 06:25PM

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01-06-2018 08:37PM

tara73 wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/detectives-search-for-any-link-between-killer-and-his-victim-470992.html

alright, so in this article they wrote: it is reported that she worked in a restaurant in Enniskerry or Bray. Guards are firming it up.

So that's true, it's not confirmed, it's just a rumour.

But how are you so completely sure she wasn't? Do you have special information?

Yes. She was a waitress. News reports at the time were confirming this. No special information, the same information that everyone had.

Creative83 · 01-06-2018 08:53PM

Suckit wrote: »

We are probably better off not knowing. I have a feeling it is something ridiculous.

Jastines remains arrived in Phillipines today.
https://extra.ie/2018/06/01/news/irish-news/jastine-valdezs-remains-arrive-philippines

This is a lovely picture. Very sad.

This photo choked me up. It is very sad... RIP

Shadow1983 · 01-06-2018 09:34PM

There before the grace of God go I. Could have been anyone of our us, our family, friends, neighbours or children, God bless you Jastine, I pray you're at peace now.

tara73 · 02-06-2018 08:03AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes. She was a waitress. News reports at the time were confirming this. No special information, the same information that everyone had.

Jesus, so why you then said one post before she wasn't?

just not worth to engage with some people..

Suckit · 02-06-2018 09:57AM

tara73 wrote: »

Jesus, so why you then said one post before she wasn't?

just not worth to engage with some people..

She was a Waitress, not a Barmaid.

weldoninhio · 02-06-2018 10:04AM

Patww79 wrote: »

Is it all that hard to believe? He was obviously a nutjob.

Is a fictional movie about a highly educated serial killer transposed onto something random that happened in Bray hard to believe???

Yes, and to do it is pathetic.

Strazdas · 02-06-2018 02:10PM

Lovely article about Jastine today in the Irish Times from their reporter in the Philippines. It's good to hear about her life story and the type of person she was.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/family-remembers-jastine-valdez-she-is-the-sweetest-1.3516654

02-06-2018 03:17PM

tara73 wrote: »

Jesus, so why you then said one post before she wasn't?

just not worth to engage with some people..

Barmaid is not waitress.

Read.

KathleenGrant · 02-06-2018 06:40PM

The arguing over trivial details in this thread is tiresome. Piece on Jastine is very touching. She seems to have been a wonderful person.

Suckit · 02-06-2018 07:00PM

KathleenGrant wrote: »

The arguing over trivial details in this thread is tiresome. Piece on Jastine is very touching. She seems to have been a wonderful person.

It is not entirely trivial if you are referring to the barmaid/waitress comments.
It is also not really arguing.

There seems to be a rumour connecting Jastine with MH (I haven't heard it, so couldn't say what it is exactly.), when she was a barmaid. Assuming he frequented the pub that she was a barmaid in.

It was never reported that she was a barmaid, and a restaurant customer frequenting a restaurant would be a lot more noticeable.
If anything, I would say it is people just trying to help quash the rumours.

Strazdas · 02-06-2018 08:07PM

KathleenGrant wrote: »

The arguing over trivial details in this thread is tiresome. Piece on Jastine is very touching. She seems to have been a wonderful person.

Hard working and a conscientious student by the sound of things, absolutely devoted to her extended family. If there is one tiny glimmer of positivity in this story, it's that she got to spend a few years living with her parents, giving them many precious memories.

KathleenGrant · 02-06-2018 10:08PM

Suckit wrote: »

It is not entirely trivial if you are referring to the barmaid/waitress comments.
It is also not really arguing.

There seems to be a rumour connecting Jastine with MH (I haven't heard it, so couldn't say what it is exactly.), when she was a barmaid. Assuming he frequented the pub that she was a barmaid in.

It was never reported that she was a barmaid, and a restaurant customer frequenting a restaurant would be a lot more noticeable.
If anything, I would say it is people just trying to help quash the rumours.

It's not just the barmaid/waitress thing. It's the whole he looks like a freak/he is only socially awkward.....the garda is a hero/ the garda over-reacted.....She was a waitress/she was a barmaid.... of them all the waitress/barmaid most trivial but all annoying.

02-06-2018 10:11PM

KathleenGrant wrote: »

It's not just the barmaid/waitress thing. It's the whole he looks like a freak/he is only socially awkward.....the garda is a hero/ the garda over-reacted.....She was a waitress/she was a barmaid.... of them all the waitress/barmaid most trivial but all annoying.

No offense but you have completely missed the point here.

It's not trivial because it puts an end to a common rumour that speculates that they knew each other, and how they would know each other. Putting that rumour to bed is very pertinent, IMO.

KathleenGrant · 02-06-2018 10:13PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No offense but you have completely missed the point here.

It's not trivial because it puts an end to a common rumour that speculates that they knew each other, and how they would know each other. Putting that rumour to bed is very pertinent, IMO.

So if she was a barmaid they knew each other and if she was a waitress they didn't. OK. NOW I get it NOT!

Strazdas · 02-06-2018 10:33PM

Suckit wrote: »

It is not entirely trivial if you are referring to the barmaid/waitress comments.
It is also not really arguing.

There seems to be a rumour connecting Jastine with MH (I haven't heard it, so couldn't say what it is exactly.), when she was a barmaid. Assuming he frequented the pub that she was a barmaid in.

It was never reported that she was a barmaid, and a restaurant customer frequenting a restaurant would be a lot more noticeable.
If anything, I would say it is people just trying to help quash the rumours.

One of the newspapers last week cleared up the issue of where Jastine worked :

Julie Ann was a regular customer in the Blue Ginger Chinese restaurant on Bray’s Main Street where Jastine worked. Entering, Jastine “would always be there, smiling,” said Julie Ann.

Jastine was “so nice and friendly but very shy” with it, recalled Julie Ann. “She’s not the girl who would jump in [to a conversation].”

If there was any connection between she and the killer, I would say it would be purely down to him acting as a stalker, probably without her knowledge (and I'd be sceptical of that scenario).

02-06-2018 10:40PM

KathleenGrant wrote: »

So if she was a barmaid they knew each other and if she was a waitress they didn't. OK. NOW I get it NOT!

Yeah, I think I'll just have to accept that you're not going to "get it", at this stage.

KathleenGrant · 02-06-2018 11:16PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah, I think I'll just have to accept that you're not going to "get it", at this stage.

Great, otherwise it will turn into another stupid argument.

Strazdas · 04-06-2018 07:12PM

Another nice article about Jastine, this time by the Irish Daily Mail's Michelle Fleming who is out in the Philippines.....a really well written piece

https://extra.ie/2018/06/03/news/jastine-valdez-thanks-irish-for-support

Strazdas · 02-07-2018 02:16PM

The funeral of Jastine Valdez has taken place in the Philippines today :

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/jastine-valdez-funeral-held-in-philippines-weeks-after-murder-1.3551133

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/jastine-valdez-funeral-1.3551080

May she Rest in Peace

Star Bingo · 02-07-2018 02:32PM

Bless her, and everybody connected to her back in Aritao she was angelic and remains in our hearts.

The Nal · 02-07-2018 02:49PM

Did they ever get to the bottom of the friend who didn't report Hennesey to the police when he saw him on Killiney beach?

acai berry · 07-07-2018 10:15AM

The Nal wrote: »

Did they ever get to the bottom of the friend who didn't report Hennesey to the police when he saw him on Killiney beach?

Good question, The Nal. I'd guess he is a person who has something to hide regarding himself.

Now that Jastine has been buried with all the honours she deserves, I'm wondering will the parents ever bring themselves to return to Ireland.

R.I.P. Jasmine!

Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

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