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Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

  • 20-05-2018 4:14pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    A woman is feared to have been abducted yesterday in broad daylight, just outside Enniskerry, Co. Wicklow. The same village where Annie McCarrick was last spotted. Frightening.

    Gardai are appealing for information.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/missing-woman-24-feared-to-have-been-abducted-in-co-wicklow-1.3501945



    Mod warning

    This is a final warning.

    Speculation of any kind is not allowed here. You can discuss articles, news reports or any factual aspect of the case. You can sympathise, you can ask why. Making up what ifs is not allowed

    I did not think I would ever have to say this but ANYONE who disrespects Jastine Valdez in this thread is getting an immediate ban from this forum. Some of the crap I have had to read this morning has angered me more than anything I have read on this site before.

    This poor girl has a family and friends. She was 24 years old and is being mourned. If people do not have respect then they are not welcome here.

    For the majority who have posted in a respectful manner we thank you. Please report any posts that require moderator attention.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,947 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Gardai have urged public to be vigilant for vehicle reg 171-D-20419

    Gardai have this evening urged the public to be vigilant for a black Nissan Qashqai jeep with registration number 171-D-20419.

    Officers are seeking to locate it in relation to missing Jastine Valdez.

    However the public have been warned not to approach the vehicle if it is spotted - but to immediately call 999.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Really hope there is a positive outcome in this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Oddly hope it's someone she knew.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭ANDREWMUFC


    The country’s gone mad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,080 ✭✭✭✭Big Nasty


    First up on Six One. Obviously being treated very seriously. They have the reg of the vehicle and know the owner but not his whereabouts. Doesn't sound like a random abduction?

    God help her. :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    Doesn't sound good. Very specific about the car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,947 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Happy4all wrote: »
    Doesn't sound good. Very specific about the car.

    CCTV confirmation perhaps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,901 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Larry Murphy mother was buried the other day. Winder did he come back for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭Trigger Happy


    ted1 wrote: »
    Larry Murphy mother was buried the other day. Winder did he come back for it.

    Bit harsh there Ted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,901 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    ted1 wrote: »
    Larry Murphy mother was buried the other day. Winder did he come back for it.

    Bit harsh there Ted.
    Not really.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,559 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Bit harsh there Ted.

    Harsh? How?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,383 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    ANDREWMUFC wrote: »
    The country’s gone mad

    How so?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭AmberGold


    They know the man they are looking for but haven’t released the name, odd?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    AmberGold wrote: »
    They know the man they are looking for but haven’t released the name, odd?

    My thoughts too. Why not put out an appeal; even just for him to contact the Gardaí?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭cocaliquid


    Attacks on women out by themselves are happening more often. Is it time women should be allowed carry pepper spray. ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    cocaliquid wrote: »
    Is it time women should be allowed carry pepper spray. ?

    Allowed?

    Anyone can buy a small can online and keep it in their purse.

    Its about as illegal as holding a small amount of weed, which people everywhere do all the time.

    When was the last time you were stopped for a pepper spray check?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Conservatory


    The girl was reported missing. A member of the public seen a kidnapping and reported the reg. They found her phone at the scene as far as I know.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    cocaliquid wrote: »
    Attacks on women out by themselves are happening more often. Is it time women should be allowed carry pepper spray. ?

    I've gone googling stats for this as I was curious about your statement but I haven't came up with a site that gives a decent breakdown of attacks on women out by themselves specifically.
    Could you point me in the direction of where you get your facts?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    PLEASE SHARE -

    Disappearance of Jastine Valdez, Enniskerry, Co. Wicklow.

    Gardaí in Bray are appealing for information following the disappearance of a 24-year-old woman from Enniskerry, Co Wicklow. Jastine Valdez from Enniskerry, Co. Wicklow was last seen when she left her home yesterday afternoon (19/5/2018).

    She was reported missing to Gardaí by her family late last night. Her reported disappearance followed an earlier incident near Enniskerry when shortly after 6.15pm Gardaí received a report of a female pedestrian being forced into a car on the (R760) south of Enniskerry. The car involved in this incident was described to Gardaí as a dark coloured Nissan SUV.

    Jastine is described as approximately 5ft in height, of slight build with long black hair and brown eyes. When last seen she was wearing a dark coloured jacket, white t-shirt, grey leggings and runners.

    The scene on the R760 is currently preserved and local traffic diversions are in place. An incident room has been established at Bray Garda Station. A case conference has been held by investigators and Gardaí liaising closely with her family.

    Investigating Gardaí are appealing for anyone with information in relation to the disappearance of Jastine to contact them. They are particularly appealing for information on or sightings of a dark coloured Nissan SUV partial registration 171-D-2****.

    Anyone with information is asked to contact Bray Garda Station 01-6665300 the Garda Confidential Line 1800 666 111 or any Garda Station.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Patww79 wrote: »
    Why are they blocking the reg now? They originally had it unhidden, was that one wrong?

    No idea just noticed that actually .

    Maybe it's not the correct reg .


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Patww79 wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Not petty at all. I'm not calling the poster out. I would have thought such attacks were falling in numbers (based on nothing) so I'm curious to see some statistical facts on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 828 ✭✭✭JaMarcus


    If Gardaí have a number plate, are they able to instantly check where/when (if) it went through any tolls recently?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,305 ✭✭✭Poochie05


    Patww79 wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    Earlier reports had the partial reg, probably because it was from an eye witness who saw it happen and maybe they didn't get the whole thing.
    Since then they have probably matched it up with the right vehicle.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭Wheres Me Jumper?


    cocaliquid wrote: »
    Attacks on women out by themselves are happening more often. Is it time women should be allowed carry pepper spray. ?

    do you ave evidence of this, or are you simply speculating?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭beechwood55


    The reg is vehicle reg 171-D-20419
    They have identified the owner. And are looking for him. According to the Independent.ie
    Investigating detectives are currently examining a number of possible sightings of the vehicle since the abduction took place, including reports of a woman in distress in the rear of a dark coloured Nissan in south Dublin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,898 ✭✭✭✭Ken.


    Mod-Thread stickied and reg added to title.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The reg is vehicle reg 171-D-20419

    The official Garda release just used 171-D -2
    So chances are they looking at a different reg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    The reg is vehicle reg 171-D-20419
    They have identified the owner. And are looking for him. According to the Independent.ie
    Investigating detectives are currently examining a number of possible sightings of the vehicle since the abduction took place, including reports of a woman in distress in the rear of a dark coloured Nissan in south Dublin.

    Godspeed and safety to our Gardai.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Conservatory


    Gatling wrote: »
    The official Garda release just used 171-D -2
    So chances are they looking at a different reg

    The guards leak things to the papers all the time. If they legally couldn’t give the reg out for fear of hero’s approaching the car they can always pass on a piece of paper to Paul Williams or any of their other buddies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 229 ✭✭ConnyMcDavid


    Patww79 wrote: »
    Why are they blocking the reg now? They originally had it unhidden, was that one wrong?

    I think they had a partial reg when first releasing an appeal and have since got complete reg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The guards leak things to the papers all the time. If they legally couldn’t give the reg out for fear of hero’s approaching the car they can always pass on a piece of paper to Paul Williams or any of their other buddies.

    Not necessarily true especially if it leads to mass confusion and sighings of the wrong car


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    From the Indo website

    “Missing Jastine: Gardai issue reg of suspect vehicle but urge public not to approach

    Gardai have urged public to be vigilant for vehicle reg 171-D-20419”


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    They still have the full reg listed on their official twitter page (the very top tweet on their feed) so I imagine if the information on this was incorrect they would have changed it by now.

    https://twitter.com/GardaTraffic/status/998238704127836161


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭AmberGold


    Fairly certain on the Six One news that the reg was 20419 and they have identified the address where it should be located. Could be a rental?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Anyone in the area? Are the garda choppers out?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭Wheres Me Jumper?


    The guards leak things to the papers all the time. If they legally couldn’t give the reg out for fear of hero’s approaching the car they can always pass on a piece of paper to Paul Williams or any of their other buddies.

    often the guards in this country don't appear to have a clue what they are doing. maybe i'm being a bit harsh, but i don't have much confidence in them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Surely whoever owns that car knows he's fecked and it would be better to release her unharmed.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 761 ✭✭✭Dayor Knight


    The reg is vehicle reg 171-D-20419
    They have identified the owner. And are looking for him. According to the Independent.ie
    Investigating detectives are currently examining a number of possible sightings of the vehicle since the abduction took place, including reports of a woman in distress in the rear of a dark coloured Nissan in south Dublin.

    Where in South Dublin, anybody know? I'll go out now and start driving around on the off-chance. If everyone goes looking somebody might spot this scumbag.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    often the guards in this country don't appear to have a clue what they are doing. maybe i'm being a bit harsh, but i don't have much confidence in them.

    Is this a comparative study to other police forces internationally? Every incident, especiallly a missing person, is different. The procedures of solving the crime aren't generic.
    The Gardai seem to be doing a good job here with the expediency of the investigation, the info gathered and the spread of said info to the public


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭Wheres Me Jumper?


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Surely whoever owns that car knows he's fecked and it would be better to release her unharmed.

    you are assuming this person is thinking rationally.
    my guess it's a "family matter", so emotions may well be running quite high.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,148 ✭✭✭Ronan|Raven


    Anyone in the area? Are the garda choppers out?

    A lot of helicopter activity today around Bray


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭Wheres Me Jumper?


    Is this a comparative study to other police forces internationally? Every incident, especiallly a missing person, is different. The procedures of solving the crime aren't generic.
    The Gardai seem to be doing a good job here with the expediency of the investigation, the info gathered and the spread of said info to the public

    no its just my impression and experience. maybe the recent poor publicity surrounding them doesn't help. smearing of whistleblowers, penalty points, recordin of data etc.
    i would be interested to see what how our crime solution rates compare with equally sized countries elsewhere.
    certainly the amount of young women in Leinster whose disappearance remains unsolved is very concerning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    You know, some people would argue about anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭Thesomersarms


    Very scary and bizarre , it’s been over a day since a witness saw the girl being pulled into a car which doesn’t bode well, broad daylight too, I can’t help but think of the case of Deirdre Jacob, same thing witnesses saw her walking along a road very close to her home alone in broad daylight, prayers that this girl is found safe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    no its just my impression and experience. maybe the recent poor publicity surrounding them doesn't help. smearing of whistleblowers, penalty points, recordin of data etc.
    i would be interested to see what how our crime solution rates compare with equally sized countries elsewhere.
    certainly the amount of young women in Leinster whose disappearance remains unsolved is very concerning.

    Any missing person is concerning but I don't think Irish Gardai have any unusual than expected rate of solving these crimes. Successful recoveries of missing people in Ireland actually is very high, thank god. Reports have been carried out by The Oireachtas and Garda Inspectorate to improve procedures.
    Most missing people investigations are solved within HOURS. This one seems on the way to be solved I am confident also, just praying it has a fully successful outcome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭adgib


    Being caught with pepper spray is classed as being in possession of a firearm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Conservatory


    adgib wrote: »
    Being caught with pepper spray is classed as being in possession of a firearm

    More men get attacked while out in their own than women.


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