Timber

Sparks · 09-02-2018 5:00pm

If you can find clear stuff without that green streaking, it's a lot prettier than you'd think when given a plane finish. Not sure how well that'd show up when you turn it though.

magicbastarder · 10-03-2018 10:23pm

i've never seen a burl as large as this in relation to the size of the tree - it was at least 18 inches across. completely encases the trunk.

Sparks · 26-03-2018 11:09pm

Anyone know of a good source of constructional veneer (say 1.5mm thick) in horse chestnut or sycamore or holly or boxwood or other whiteish wood for stringing in either Ireland or the UK?

timfromtang · 27-03-2018 9:02am

Sparks wrote: »

Anyone know of a good source of constructional veneer (say 1.5mm thick) in horse chestnut or sycamore or holly or boxwood or other whiteish wood for stringing in either Ireland or the UK?

I've a few lengths of ash veneer left over from building my fathers coffin.
they're about 8 ft long, 6" wide, and about 1.5mm thick.
you'd be welcome to some,
pm me
tim

tabby aspreme · 27-03-2018 3:14pm

Sparks wrote: »

Anyone know of a good source of constructional veneer (say 1.5mm thick) in horse chestnut or sycamore or holly or boxwood or other whiteish wood for stringing in either Ireland or the UK?

You could try the Abbey Woods Dublin, Carpentry Store in Naas, or Restoration Materials in Bury, I've never seen horse chestnut timber used for anything other than firewood, am I right thinking it's soft stringy and coarse grained

Woodsy-eile · 28-03-2018 12:40pm

Looking for a selection of hardwoods to get myself familiar with them. Any type really, small pieces would be perfect. Something to mess around with.

Any ideas where would be best to get some?

Cheers

28-03-2018 2:04pm

Woodsy-eile wrote: »

Looking for a selection of hardwoods to get myself familiar with them. Any type really, small pieces would be perfect. Something to mess around with.

Any ideas where would be best to get some?

Cheers

The carpentry store do have an off cuts bin with different types if you just looking to see how it might take a plane, chisel etc. Some of it could be cut into strips for inlay.

Woodsy-eile · 28-03-2018 2:34pm

DubInMeath wrote: »

The carpentry store do have an off cuts bin with different types if you just looking to see how it might take a plane, chisel etc. Some of it could be cut into strips for inlay.

Never thought of the off cut bins....thanks! Could do the trick

chillyspoon · 28-03-2018 2:34pm

I was in at KDH last week - they've got loads of scraps of various timbers and also many small boards that the bigger consumers aren't interested in. All rough sawn - kiln dried and unseasoned if you want it.

http://kilndriedtimbersuppliers.com

Neil is a very helpful chap.

Diaezoner · 05-04-2018 6:12pm

We will shortly be getting 3 120yr old beech trees cut down and we're wondering if anyone would know someone who's be interested in buying the wood? South cork area. Thanks in advance for any advice folks.

magicbastarder · 05-04-2018 8:20pm

make sure the tree surgeon has applied for a felling licence, if applicable.
why are they coming down? are they healthy? this could affect interest in the wood.

Diaezoner · 06-04-2018 7:41am

magicbastarder wrote: »

make sure the tree surgeon has applied for a felling licence, if applicable.
why are they coming down? are they healthy? this could affect interest in the wood.

They are coming down as we have had 2 fall in the last 3 years, one of which fell on the house and severely damaged it. They are healthy, it was during storms that they fell, but we were advised by the guys who came to remove the fallen one's that we should probably get the rest taken down for safety.

kadman · 07-04-2018 3:37pm

Diaezoner wrote: »

They are coming down as we have had 2 fall in the last 3 years, one of which fell on the house and severely damaged it. They are healthy, it was during storms that they fell, but we were advised by the guys who came to remove the fallen one's that we should probably get the rest taken down for safety.

You dont necessarily need a felling license for dangerous trees close to the house,

https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/media/migration/forestry/treefelling/ExemptedTreeInformationNote271017.pdf

JudgeVolt · 03-05-2018 10:55pm

Hi,

Im new to woodworking - I just started an online course to get me started.
Im having trouble finding planed softwood of the following dimensions :

19mm x 38mm x 1.2m (1" x 2")
19mm x 64mm x 1.2m (1" x 3")

ive tried my local woodies/BnQ but they don't have these sizes in planed wood. I also looked at several website but cant thing these sizes there either.

Are these dimensions unusual?
Is it possible to get a lumber yard to dimension some wood for me and would that be expensive to get done?

Sparks · 04-05-2018 8:13am

Surprised B&Q don't have that, they often have something close to it (albeit in short lengths and seriously overpriced). If you're in Kildare, you're fairly close to Naas, maybe try the Carpentry Shop? Or if you go a bit further east, Strahan Timber?

BTW, you can probably substitute poplar for softwood for what you're doing, so if you find a place that has mainly hardwood rather than softwood, just buy poplar (might be listed as tulipwood) - so for example, strahan has planed poplar and it's slightly cheaper than their planed yellow pine.

But if you just want any old softwood, try somewhere like Brooks...

recipio · 04-05-2018 10:52am

JudgeVolt wrote: »

Hi,

Im new to woodworking - I just started an online course to get me started.
Im having trouble finding planed softwood of the following dimensions :

19mm x 38mm x 1.2m (1" x 2")
19mm x 64mm x 1.2m (1" x 3")

ive tried my local woodies/BnQ but they don't have these sizes in planed wood. I also looked at several website but cant thing these sizes there either.

Are these dimensions unusual?
Is it possible to get a lumber yard to dimension some wood for me and would that be expensive to get done?

I'm afraid retailers don't carry finished softwoods - as a woodworker its up to you to plane rough wood to size. Floorboards and trim strips are the exception but they have industry standard dimensions When funds allow a planer/thicknesser is a lifesaver and will allow you to buy softwoods ( and hardwoods ) in the rough.A small joinery shop might help you but they really don't want one off small jobs.

Sparks · 04-05-2018 11:11am

recipio wrote: »

IWhen funds allow a planer/thicknesser is a lifesaver

Or, you know, sweat

(I'm lying through my teeth of course - if I could fit a lunchbox thicknesser in the shed, I'd have bought two by now and feck the neighbours and the insane amount of noise

)

tabby aspreme · 04-05-2018 1:10pm

Try some of the non chain hardware suppliers, most should stock what you need, in planed white deal. What part of the country are you in.

JudgeVolt · 04-05-2018 4:55pm

Hi,
Thanks for the info.
Strahan Timber is close to me, might drop over and have a chat with them this weekend.
Will be a while before I shell out for a thicknesser as I’ve blown my initial budget with the tools I bought already (circular saw, jigsaw, router & bits, hand saw, some chisels and a few F clamps).
Who knew shopping could be this much fun

recipio · 04-05-2018 5:30pm

JudgeVolt wrote: »

Hi,
Thanks for the info.
Strahan Timber is close to me, might drop over and have a chat with them this weekend.
Will be a while before I shell out for a thicknesser as I’ve blown my initial budget with the tools I bought already (circular saw, jigsaw, router & bits, hand saw, some chisels and a few F clamps).
Who knew shopping could be this much fun

'Er indoors says I should take up something cheap like golf :eek: A secondhand planer/thicknesser is the most liberating tool you can buy. You could get a used Scheppach for about 400e - the rubber rollers let you thickness right down to about 3mm. Recommended.

Wossack · 04-05-2018 8:49pm

JudgeVolt wrote: »

Hi,
Thanks for the info.
Strahan Timber is close to me, might drop over and have a chat with them this weekend.
Will be a while before I shell out for a thicknesser as I’ve blown my initial budget with the tools I bought already (circular saw, jigsaw, router & bits, hand saw, some chisels and a few F clamps).
Who knew shopping could be this much fun

Unfortunately (and hope to be told different..!) but dont think they open over the weekend

JudgeVolt · 06-05-2018 9:50am

Yes, ur right.
They are closed over the weekend.

I semt them an email. Hope to get a response early next week.

Woodsy-eile · 06-05-2018 11:56pm

JudgeVolt wrote: »

Hi,

Im new to woodworking - I just started an online course to get me started.
Im having trouble finding planed softwood of the following dimensions :

19mm x 38mm x 1.2m (1" x 2")
19mm x 64mm x 1.2m (1" x 3")

ive tried my local woodies/BnQ but they don't have these sizes in planed wood. I also looked at several website but cant thing these sizes there either.

Are these dimensions unusual?
Is it possible to get a lumber yard to dimension some wood for me and would that be expensive to get done?

Out of interest....what online course are you doing?
If you don't mind me asking?

Wossack · 07-05-2018 1:50pm

JudgeVolt wrote: »

Hi,

Im new to woodworking - I just started an online course to get me started.
Im having trouble finding planed softwood of the following dimensions :

19mm x 38mm x 1.2m (1" x 2")
19mm x 64mm x 1.2m (1" x 3")

ive tried my local woodies/BnQ but they don't have these sizes in planed wood. I also looked at several website but cant thing these sizes there either.

Are these dimensions unusual?
Is it possible to get a lumber yard to dimension some wood for me and would that be expensive to get done?

http://www.woodworkers.ie/prices/p_planed_timber.shtml

Tonylk · 08-05-2018 6:18pm

Looking for southern yellow pine
2" by 8" and 2" by 12"
Length at least 1800 mm.
anyone knows where I can get?

Help!!!! · 15-06-2018 5:31pm

Would you use cedar wood for carving?
On my course we been using beech but bought some cedar, tried carving but it keeps chipping. Do you think its just that the wood is too dry? (I think it may have been in a kiln, have to ask the guy I got it off)
What woods would you usually use?

imakebiodiesel · 15-06-2018 5:48pm

Cedar is soft and easy to carve but its also brittle and so splits and chips easily. Northwestern native Americans do fantastic carvings in cedar but I suspect the wood would be partly green, certainly not kiln dried. Among our native woods beech is hard to beat but field maple, lime and even sycamore would be viable alternatives. Avoid woods with a pronounced ring pattern such as ash, oak , sweet chestnut etc. Finally there is no such thing as a carving chisel that is too sharp.

Help!!!! · 15-06-2018 6:44pm

imakebiodiesel wrote: »

Cedar is soft and easy to carve but its also brittle and so splits and chips easily. Northwestern native Americans do fantastic carvings in cedar but I suspect the wood would be partly green, certainly not kiln dried. Among our native woods beech is hard to beat but field maple, lime and even sycamore would be viable alternatives. Avoid woods with a pronounced ring pattern such as ash, oak , sweet chestnut etc. Finally there is no such thing as a carving chisel that is too sharp.

Thanks for your help
Been doing wood carving for a few months & absolutely love it. Slowly buying tools so I can do some at home & manged to source wood at a good price (the guy even threw in a few beech blanks as part of the deal)
I wasn't sure if I was doing something wrong with the cedar but its good to get advise from some one who knows.
Again thanks

timfromtang · 15-06-2018 8:55pm

Help!!!! wrote: »

Would you use cedar wood for carving?
On my course we been using beech but bought some cedar, tried carving but it keeps chipping. Do you think its just that the wood is too dry? (I think it may have been in a kiln, have to ask the guy I got it off)
What woods would you usually use?

Willow is easy to get and nice to carve, lime is somewhat harder to get but wonderful to carve.
If the form you are carving will allow hollowing of the finished carving, then carving green, whilst the wood is lovely and crisp to cut, and then hollowing to a relatively even thickness and allowing to dry before finishing is a good approach that will transform the carveability of almost any wood (i.e. almost any wood will be much nicer to carve whilst green) a bonus to this approach is that drying can be controlled relatively easily and proceed considerably faster than trying to dry a solid piece before carving.

Green wood in carveable sized pieces is also considerably easier to get, just ask a tree surgeon, or gardener, or farmer, etc, laburnum for example is quite beautiful timber, cotoneaster is sooooo smoooth with fine fine detail, etc
tim

recipio · 16-06-2018 9:42am

Have a look at www.oakdalecrafts.co.uk. They are mainly a veneer shop but sell nice Lime blocks at a reasonable cost.

Esel · 16-06-2018 6:23pm

recipio wrote: »

Have a look at http://www.oakdalecrafts.co.uk. They are mainly a veneer shop but sell nice Lime blocks at a reasonable cost.

Link fixed above - needs http:// prefix to work on Touch site.

Lex Luthor · 16-06-2018 7:46pm

I'm looking to source a piece of wood to use as a desktop
Maybe an offcut of a worktop
Has to be solid wood, can be plain pine, I can put some oil on it to give it a colour
something around 120cm long x 60 wide, I can cut to size if bigger than that
Its for a teenagers bedroom so trying to keep costs down
Based in North Kildare...any suggestions please?

Sparks · 16-06-2018 8:47pm

A single solid board two feet wide?
You're not very likely to find that at Woodies

Also, you're going to have to flatten it, and if you have the ability to do that, you might find it easier to laminate smaller boards together.

I suppose you could try something like sapele; getting very wide boards of that is relatively easy.

But I think you'd be better off getting a 240cm long 30cm wide (plus, say, a centimeter or two or so for wastage) board, cutting it in half for two 120cmx30cm boards and edge jointing them. And you're going to have to deal with wood movement. 60cm wide? Even oak or poplar are going to vary in width from just under 59cm wide to just over 61cm wide over the course of a year as the relative humidity changes.

If the idea is to make a desk and keep the costs down and not have to deal with too much wood movement, maybe use MDF or particle board?

Lex Luthor · 16-06-2018 10:47pm

thanks for the info
I'll look at other ideas

Lex Luthor · 17-06-2018 4:53pm

would marine ply be a suitable alternative to use?
Could it be sanded then and stained to give a wood grain look?

recipio · 17-06-2018 5:49pm

Lex Luthor wrote: »

would marine ply be a suitable alternative to use?
Could it be sanded then and stained to give a wood grain look?

You are into expense and grief going down that route. I think I would just buy commercial pine shelving available in the DIY stores and glue two lengths together - assuming you have the clamps. Otherwise a sheet of baltic birch 18 mm ply looks a lot like pine but you would have some wastage.

Lex Luthor · 17-06-2018 6:08pm

Thanks again
I see woodworkers.ie has a 5’x5’ sheet that would be ideal for what I need for €40

recipio · 17-06-2018 8:46pm

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Thanks again
I see woodworkers.ie has a 5’x5’ sheet that would be ideal for what I need for €40

Yes, there is a product called panel board which is pine strips glued together and sold in 8 x 4 sheets. it is however hard to find and only about 14 mm thick. Solid wood will always wear better than a veneered board but you need the right tools to work it.

tabby aspreme · 17-06-2018 8:59pm

Lex Luthor wrote: »

I'm looking to source a piece of wood to use as a desktop
Maybe an offcut of a worktop
Has to be solid wood, can be plain pine, I can put some oil on it to give it a colour
something around 120cm long x 60 wide, I can cut to size if bigger than that
Its for a teenagers bedroom so trying to keep costs down
Based in North Kildare...any suggestions please?

Strahans in Rathcoole sell laminated pine board , give them a call , if you got an 18mm 600 ✖2440 and cut it in two you would have a nice 36mm desktop.

Help!!!! · 22-06-2018 5:26pm

timfromtang wrote: »

Willow is easy to get and nice to carve, lime is somewhat harder to get but wonderful to carve.
If the form you are carving will allow hollowing of the finished carving, then carving green, whilst the wood is lovely and crisp to cut, and then hollowing to a relatively even thickness and allowing to dry before finishing is a good approach that will transform the carveability of almost any wood (i.e. almost any wood will be much nicer to carve whilst green) a bonus to this approach is that drying can be controlled relatively easily and proceed considerably faster than trying to dry a solid piece before carving.

Green wood in carveable sized pieces is also considerably easier to get, just ask a tree surgeon, or gardener, or farmer, etc, laburnum for example is quite beautiful timber, cotoneaster is sooooo smoooth with fine fine detail, etc
tim

Thanks for your reply
Yeah I've used green wood for my first couple of carvings & they turned out nice & were easier to carve. I have a saw mill near me where I bought the cedar from which I hadnt used before (I think I'll make a table or some stools out of what I got) so didn't realise it was so brittle. The guy also included a few beech blanks so I think I'll keep them for my carving. I'm also on the lookout for a bog wood supplier, (would love to get my hands on some more bog deal)
Thanks again for the reply & advise its much appreciated
Regards

woodturner · 23-06-2018 4:49pm

There's a chap I help out in Geashill in Offaly who has lime. He has other native hardwoods too.

joe90p · 26-08-2018 10:48am

Hi All

Living in Galway City, Just started woodworking and following along with a Paul Sellers workbench build video.

I am having some trouble sourcing the larger pieces of timber e.g 70x90mm for legs. So far I have got pieces from B and Q.

Lokking for advice on
* Cost effective options for getting larger pieces of timber.
* transporting timber.

tabby aspreme · 26-08-2018 11:06am

Glue pieces together to get the dimensions you want, you will have more choice and get better value in the general builders providers and hardware shops than B&Q

sbkenn · 26-08-2018 4:06pm

try woodworkers.ie Shipping might be a problem though. You could also ask a joinery workshop is they have offcuts.

Sligophoto · 26-08-2018 7:57pm

You could try these guys I believe they can arrange delivery anywhere in Ireland. Perhaps send them an email with the sizes you need.
http://www.thetimberyard.ie

sbkenn · 26-08-2018 8:04pm

Sligophoto wrote: »

You could try these guys I believe they can arrange delivery anywhere in Ireland. Perhaps send them an email with the sizes you need.
http://www.thetimberyard.ie

They are timber importers. They don't saw or plane timber. I just bought €1500 of Sapele off them, some was 32mm thick and 800 wide,when I wanted 25mm thick. Some of it bent substantially when sawn, so I had a fair bit of edge planing to get straight planks.

godtabh · 04-09-2018 8:46am

I have a rabbit hutch that needs a bit of TLC (or a new one!).

I've decided to look into patching it up/building a new one myself. Can anyone recommend an appropriate wood to be used for an outdoor hutch?

magicbastarder · 04-09-2018 8:49am

probably pressure treated timber? should be able to get it in any lumber yard.

godtabh · 04-09-2018 8:58am

magicbastarder wrote: »

probably pressure treated timber? should be able to get it in any lumber yard.

Isn't most pressure treated timber done so with arsenic?

timfromtang · 04-09-2018 2:33pm

godtabh wrote: »

I have a rabbit hutch that needs a bit of TLC (or a new one!).

I've decided to look into patching it up/building a new one myself. Can anyone recommend an appropriate wood to be used for an outdoor hutch?

Larch would be ideal. You want nice red heartwood planks. Very durable without nasty chemical treatment.
I am sawing larch at home at the moment and could supply you with a few planks if you'd like.
Tim

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