Lunchtime Live with Ciara Kelly [Mod warning post #1]

doylefe wrote: »

In the car for 5 mins at lunch time and happened to catch some fella the show on about his male privilege and that we should allow a bit of discrimination against men to "balance things up" for women.

Ciara chims in and says that anyone who disagrees that men have an inherent privilege are just wrong.

What scutter!

I'll tell that to the countless homeless men I see begging on the streets the next time I'm in Dublin.

Also you can just picture what that privilege fella looks like.

CK just called one of her listeners an 'eejit'.

Just listening to her again, she seems to think her job is to sensationalize everything, and then provide simplistic analysis and answers. Tabloid radio.

ghostdancer wrote: »

so basically the same as the rest of the daytime lineup.

Breakfast - Williams, no further comment necessary.
Moncrieff - frothy nonsense and barely disguised book promos.
Yates - ignorance and simplicity that appeal to the bar-stool morons.

Newstalk has taken an absolute dive in quality in the last 3 years.

Moncrief is actually the worst example as you can track the decline. 5+ years ago his show was still reasonably okay but he's really fallen down the well of thinking "im great! therefore everything that comes out of my mouth is great and everyone who disagrees with me deserves ridicule"

Ursus Horribilis wrote: »

I remember there used to be a late night current affairs talk show as well. Late Night Live with Declan Carty. That was when I first heard that Michael Jackson had died.

Eh... Ok.

anthonyjmaher wrote: »

Interesting timing on the release of this story. But Newstalk and Ciara Kelly are being sued for her loose tongue and general b1tchiness.
I said at the time that I thought that they may have pre-emptive with the apology, in the hope that the doctor would not sue. And it appears that this is the case, cos he IS suing.
"Newstalk and host Ciara Kelly sued by practitioner of alternative therapy over comments made on radio show"
http://www.thejournal.ie/ciara-kelly-high-court-3916848-Mar2018/

You mean all the outrage on this thread was in support of a hack offering woodoo medicine. Riiiight.

I always thought he would sue. A GP criticised another GP live on radio.

The are routes she could have gone down to get this guy & the treatment of her father investigated. She could have lodged an official complaint to the medical practitioner board or whatever they are called. She chose not to do this.

She left the GP no choice but to sue. She should have known better as a doctor let alone as a broadcaster

Newstalk had plenty of warning on this though. In the months before she was making all sorts of statements on Twitter about unnamed men who were guilty of sexual misdemeanors, which I thought was irresponsible and childish. If she had thought somebody broke the law, she should have gone to the guards. Maybe somebody from Newstalk should have had a word with her about the position of responsibility that she now held, but I'm sure that if they did she would have tweeted about her freedom of speech being suppressed, so Newstalk couldn't win.
I think that one of the dangers of being part of the echo chamber that is Twitter is that you get so used to people slapping you on the back and retweeting you that you feel like you can say whatever you want and there will be no repercussions. But real life is not Twitter, and if you malign somebody then you are responsible for it. She obviously wanted to take a few pot shots at that doctor, and wasn't mature or experienced enough to hold her tongue. And I'd say NT will pay heavily for her mistakes.
Sort of ironic given that NT got rid of Hook because he offended people.

DickSwiveller wrote:

What did she say exactly? It doesn't give details in the linked article.

I can't remember exactly. It was something like :The doctor took her father off cholesterol meds. She said live on air that she (a doctor herself) believed this led to her father's death.

This isn't like you or I saying something like that in the pub. This is a trained doctor saying another doctors action led to her father's death.

As I mentioned before there are avenues available for reporting doctors, their treatment & advice. She didn't avail of this. Instead she decided to tell the world without giving the doctor in question due process. She deserves to pay dearly for this imo.

I wonder why she didn't advise her father herself or why he did not take her advice if it was offered.

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I can't remember exactly. It was something like :The doctor took her father off cholesterol meds. She said live on air that she (a doctor herself) believed this led to her father's death.

This isn't like you or I saying something like that in the pub. This is a trained doctor saying another doctors action led to her father's death.

As I mentioned before there are avenues available for reporting doctors, their treatment & advice. She didn't avail of this. Instead she decided to tell the world without giving the doctor in question due process. She deserves to pay dearly for this imo.

I wonder why she didn't advise her father herself or why he did not take her advice if it was offered.

Eh, is this the same doctor who is now referring patients to the States for 'alternative' treatment, or are the two things unrelated?

UsedToWait wrote:

Eh, is thus the same doctor who is now referring patients to the States for 'alternative' treatment, or are the two things unrelated?

I have no idea if this GP contributed to her father's death. She abused her position & publicly blamed him. We have due proses in Ireland and she robbed him of that.

He could be a Voodoo doctor for all I care. He is entitled to due proses. She should have reported him & produced the evidence & let a panel of doctors decide. She had no right to do what she did and her & her employer will pay dearly for this.

DickSwiveller wrote:

I might be confused. I thought her father's doctor was the alternative doctor??

He is a GP and alternative doctor. He has the same qualifications as Ciara.

Some GPs practice acupuncture alongside "real" medicine. Someone suffering from Bells Palsy will recover more quickly if treated with acupuncture and "real" medicine than someone being treated with "real" medicine alone. Acupuncture wouldn't be used by a GP for everything or even that often but sometimes it has its place in the GPs surgery

Sleeper12 wrote: »

This guy is a GP. Has his own GP practice. He advised her dad to come off cholesterol meds & she says this is why her dad died. Now she'll have to prove her theory in court or pay the GP compensation

Doubt it'll get to court. Newstalk's insurers will pay him something less than a couple of days in the High Court would cost.

Happens all the time to media organisations. Even if she or NT think they could win, if it costs less to pay him off, he'll get paid, especially if there's no realistic probability of recovering costs from him.