The Jumpers are Coming 2017/2018

krustydoyle · 16-10-2017 11:04am

Copper_pipe wrote:

Kesselring for the Supreme Novice @ 50/1 ew

Powers only offering 33's but that's hardly surprising

madmoose · 16-10-2017 11:33am

Skybet 50/1

Luap · 16-10-2017 11:35am

Gumball looks like a machine if he can sharpen up on his jumping.

BumperD · 17-10-2017 2:12am

Samcro and petit mouchoir hold maiden hurdle/ beginners chaser entry Wednesday.

madmoose · 17-10-2017 5:44am

You can get nrnb our duke 6/1 skybet in the specials section. Id rather that than 10/1 8/1 others without nrnb at this stage.

Gringo180 · 17-10-2017 9:24pm

US Army Ranger for the Grand National but he needs a bog

krustydoyle · 17-10-2017 11:20pm

Petit Mouchoir making its debut over fences in Punchestown..

Should be interesting

Copper_pipe · 18-10-2017 11:09am

Minella Rocco, Samcro, Death Duty, Road To Respect and Sub Lieutenant declared for tomorrow

madmoose · 18-10-2017 11:42am

Read good things about that bumper horse Felix Desjy tomorrow in the last at Punch

akelly02 · 18-10-2017 1:30pm

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Minella Rocco, Samcro, Death Duty, Road To Respect and Sub Lieutenant declared for tomorrow

wouldnt be surprised to see death duty bet tomorrow

posturingpat · 18-10-2017 3:31pm

Just Milly one to keep an eye on ,ridden by Bowen as if he didn't want to win too snugly and ruin her mark and he got her beat. She'll win a few.

krustydoyle · 18-10-2017 3:45pm

krustydoyle wrote: »

Petit Mouchoir making its debut over fences in Punchestown..

Should be interesting

Nothing wrong with that debut today
Bookies have already cut it for the Arkle in March :cool:

Slattsy · 18-10-2017 4:47pm

akelly02 wrote: »

wouldnt be surprised to see death duty bet tomorrow

Horses can bet now?

WickIow Brave · 18-10-2017 9:54pm

Nice performance form Petit Mouchoir today. Himself v Cilaos Emery at Christmas will be a good race. Ireland's leading Arkle contenders those two.

BumperD · 19-10-2017 2:47am

krustydoyle wrote: »

Nothing wrong with that debut today
Bookies have already cut it for the Arkle in March :cool:

He was slick and tidy. Small enough frame to my eyes for fences but so far so good.

Great nh card tomorrow for this early in the season

Slattsy · 19-10-2017 6:37am

I'll be taking Death Duty on today with Harringtons yolk.

longshotvalue · 19-10-2017 7:03am

That 4:10 at Punch is like a mini gold cup. One of the best early season races ive seen in many years

akelly02 · 19-10-2017 8:41am

Slattsy wrote: »

Horses can bet now?

funny

akelly02 · 19-10-2017 8:41am

aidankkk wrote: »

That 4:10 at Punch is like a mini gold cup. One of the best early season races ive seen in many years

doubt minella rocco will be straight enough to win 1st time out

Slattsy · 19-10-2017 8:41am

akelly02 wrote: »

funny

Laying himself

akelly02 · 19-10-2017 8:43am

Slattsy wrote: »

Laying himself

If i was him id be backing with fallers insurance!

Mr321 · 19-10-2017 9:21am

In the 4.10 Id like Road To Respect at the prices. Should have a good season.

Be interesting to see what Outlander can do with Kennedy back on him

naughto · 19-10-2017 9:47am

Have a wedding g the weekend anything nice I could bet on to take the sting out of the day

jimjamcos · 19-10-2017 10:12am

I'd be against Death Duty with Woodland Opera also.

akelly02 · 19-10-2017 10:18am

jimjamcos wrote: »

I'd be against Death Duty with Woodland Opera also.

i think mouse morris yoke might be the one, woodland opera might not be fit first time out

madmoose · 19-10-2017 10:38am

Id be on Outlander given his record fresh, thinknit's 1112

Slattsy · 19-10-2017 11:19am

Few quid each on Outlander for the GC.

Fancied him last year to run a decent race. Gordon has said he's sorted out some issues. Worth a pop at 50s.

Mr321 · 19-10-2017 11:53am

Slattsy wrote: »

Few quid each on Outlander for the GC.

Fancied him last year to run a decent race. Gordon has said he's sorted out some issues. Worth a pop at 50s.

He had an operation on his back Outlander

BumperD · 19-10-2017 12:01pm

want to see death dutys jumping put under pressure today to see if he stays upright......

krustydoyle · 19-10-2017 1:16pm

Samcro looks a tank.. Very exciting prospect

Slattsy · 19-10-2017 1:21pm

krustydoyle wrote: »

Samcro looks a tank.. Very exciting prospect

Could be another Death Duty. Soft ground beast..

krustydoyle · 19-10-2017 2:49pm

Death Duty did that easily enough but his head carriage still worries me

Slattsy · 19-10-2017 3:08pm

Massive drift on Outlander. Looks like he's undercooked for this, should have waited until after the race for me speculative e/w GC punt

Mr321 · 19-10-2017 3:21pm

Mr321 wrote: »

In the 4.10 Id like Road To Respect at the prices. Should have a good season.

Be interesting to see what Outlander can do with Kennedy back on him

Road to respect get in!!!

Wins at a good price as always. Proves he can go on the soft to!

longshotvalue · 19-10-2017 3:44pm

Jeez they looked like a bunch of first time novices. Come comical jumping except from the horse that nearly lead all the way.

abarkie · 19-10-2017 7:03pm

Is anyone know if anyone is doing NRNB / with a run pricing?

I sure i read that someone was offering 6/1 Our Duke & 4/1 Faugheen

Both prices with a run

jimjamcos · 19-10-2017 10:06pm

Death Duty looked good alright but he lools like a lad dying to headbutt a fence!

essgee268 · 19-10-2017 11:09pm

Mr321 wrote: »

Road to respect get in!!!

Wins at a good price as always. Proves he can go on the soft to!

had the 2nd one on betfair. ran smasher

madmoose · 20-10-2017 4:49am

abarkie wrote: »

Is anyone know if anyone is doing NRNB / with a run pricing?

I sure i read that someone was offering 6/1 Our Duke & 4/1 Faugheen

Both prices with a run

Sky bet had these and i put 50 on Duke but now they have taken them from the specials market.

WickIow Brave · 23-10-2017 6:07pm

The proper racing is winding down so I was looking ahead to the jumps season.

No strong opinion on the novice Hurdlers except one gets the impression Samcro could be something special.

Buveur D'air is very solid but I get the feeling Melon is a machine and we'll see the best of him this year and he'll be up winning a Champion Hurdle. Against Defi Du Seuil.

Against Novice chasers that spend a second season hurdling so I think the Arkle, JLT and RSA will be won by horses like Cilaos Emery, River Wylde, Finian's Oscar, Bacardys, and Monalee.

I reckon something will come out of the blue in the staying hurdle division. Something like Beyond Conceit or Tin Soldier. Totally random horse will come out and win a few. The World's End another.

All three are machines but Douvan, Min, and Faugheen aren't even on my mind until see them lined up at the start of a race so Altior hacks up in the Champion Chase and Might Bite will win the King George by the length of the straight.

Yorkhill will win any race he runs in at Cheltenham. It's as simple as that. Pick whichever race you what to win Willie and declare Yorkhill. Wins the Gold Cup.

And Willoughby Court is useless, won't be winning anything.

Slattsy · 23-10-2017 6:30pm

If Faugheen comes back, even at 75%, he wins the CH in my opinion. He's a class above the current crop.

The Mullins camp seem quite happy they can get him back on track near his best so I'll probably dabble at the current price before he runs.

Mr321 · 23-10-2017 6:44pm

Hendo has a horse I quite like and think will win a few this year River Wylde.

Agree with you on Min and there's not much being said as when will see him only 'he's in good form'
Don't know about Yorkhill and a GC would wait to see what he's like first time out Mullins says he's trying different things with him. That jumping to the side would be a big problem in a GC

Andalucia · 23-10-2017 7:47pm

Faugheen is rising 10, has been off the track for the bones of 22 months, there is no hope of him regaining the champion hurdle

Same with Douvan, can't see him returning good enough to beat Altior -

abarkie · 23-10-2017 9:45pm

Andalucia wrote: »

Faugheen is rising 10, has been off the track for the bones of 22 months, there is no hope of him regaining the champion hurdle

Same with Douvan, can't see him returning good enough to beat Altior -

What prices would you be offering?

longshotvalue · 23-10-2017 9:59pm

Andalucia wrote: »

Faugheen is rising 10, has been off the track for the bones of 22 months, there is no hope of him regaining the champion hurdle

Same with Douvan, can't see him returning good enough to beat Altior -

Would have no worries at all about being 10. Ive been on the mtoy bandwagon at prices like 50/1 the last 2 years and you just cant beat champion hurdle form in that race. I think he wins if he is better than 90%. Jezki looks like this years MTOY. If Artic Fire gets there this year he will be close as well.

Mr321 · 23-10-2017 10:59pm

How will Yanworth jump tomorrow? He fairly bulldozed down the odd hurdle last season.

BumperD · 24-10-2017 2:55am

Just spotted his entry there. Will be interesting to see how he gets on, hurdle mark of 162 suggests the sky’s the limit over fences but we all know it sometimes doesn’t work out like that.

madmoose · 24-10-2017 7:28am

I think Yanworth will flop and be in the stayers come March.

posturingpat · 24-10-2017 9:01am

I think Yanworth could be a very good chaser, he was stupid at his hurdles but not all round bad I don't think. He's a big looking boy too so could be that he was too big and awkward for his hurdles.

Slight worry that he spent the extra season over hurdles so might be late enough to iron out bad habits but id give him the benefit of the doubt for the time being.
This is all coming from someone who couldn't have him in mind at all for the Champion hurdle last year so no bias whatsoever.

Mr321 · 24-10-2017 6:46pm

Yanworth took well to the fences and can only improve from that today but you could take nothing away from Sternrubin done well and will be winning plenty in the future.

The Jumpers are Coming 2017/2018

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