Just had a bit of a barney with a neighbour

Professor Moriarty · 12-03-2017 6:24pm

I had an issue with a few kids some years ago. Rang the guards for advice and the guard basically said there was nothing I could do and said there was no actual law regarding trespass. He said they could stand in my garden as long as they liked. Dunno how true that is but it's what he told me. However, he said there was no law against my watering any part of my garden at any time.

So you can use a hose or sprinkler any time they are in your garden. Not sure how that would go down with your neighbour.

Incidentally, kicking your door constitutes criminal damage: A person who without lawful excuse damages any property belonging to another intending to damage any such property or being reckless as to whether any such property would be damaged shall be guilty of an offence.

Samuel T. Cogley · 12-03-2017 6:27pm

anewme wrote: »

The neighbours attitude is what was wrong, not the OP's.

Op was already annoyed so a narky neighbour giving out in his own doorstep would not have gone down well.

Agree with the other posters, if we had gone home and said Mr. Smith or whoever gave out to us for looking in the windows, we'd have been given short shrift.

If someone kicked my door in a threatening manner , I'd be calling the Gardai.

You may have missed my first post, I don't read the entire thread either though so fair enough. However the OP has now left himself no where to go. A softly, softly may have thrown the OPs neighbour off guard and the kids would have still had their bollocking. Now he's got a fairly useless parent who is probably at home ranting about the wanker at number 5, the kids probably realise they're not going to get in trouble for doing it again.

Calling the guards would possibly be unhelpful in certain areas.

Live65a846d0ee · 12-03-2017 6:29pm

Jesus, relax, it's such a nice day outside and you get mad about nothing. It's children playing for ****s sake get a ****ing grip. Evil human being, just has to infect everyone else with their bad mood.

ChikiChiki · 12-03-2017 6:29pm

pablo128 wrote: »

I can't agree with this more. Someone comes and has an argument, fair enough. If someone booted my door I wouldn't hold back.

Yes but in this country you would end up in big trouble. The courts would spin it the other way if guy came for charges or looked for compo. Unfortunate but true.

B.A._Baracus · 12-03-2017 6:30pm

The biggest mistake you made was posting this here, op

Doesn't matter what happened, sure you could be completely in the right with something. But others will take you up wrong or wind you up.

Live65a846d0ee · 12-03-2017 6:30pm

Specialun wrote: »

I opened the door and off he rattled. The kids should not be on my property, not once or not twice. They were asked to leave. They came back.

End of the ****ing world, wish there was less evil men like you and more nice people in this world literally ruining the days of other people.

Fleawuss · 12-03-2017 6:31pm

amcalester wrote: »

When I was a kid the only neighbours we purposely annoyed were the ones who got reacted like you OP.

Pity you didn't get a few clatters.

Specialun · 12-03-2017 6:31pm

Live65a846d0ee wrote: »

Jesus, relax, it's such a nice day outside and you get mad about nothing. It's children playing for ****s sake get a ****ing grip. Evil human being, just has to infect everyone else with their bad mood.

Its my property. Im the bellend who paid 300k for it. They cannot play wherever they feel like just because there kids. I hope you're not a parent

Professor Moriarty · 12-03-2017 6:32pm

Live65a846d0ee wrote: »

End of the ****ing world, wish there was less evil men like you and more nice people in this world literally ruining the days of other people.

Rather ironic sentiment, don't you think?

Specialun · 12-03-2017 6:32pm

Live65a846d0ee wrote: »

End of the ****ing world, wish there was less evil men like you and more nice people in this world literally ruining the days of other people.

Ease off the sauce

ChikiChiki · 12-03-2017 6:33pm

Live65a846d0ee wrote: »

Jesus, relax, it's such a nice day outside and you get mad about nothing. It's children playing for ****s sake get a ****ing grip. Evil human being, just has to infect everyone else with their bad mood.

They need to learn boundaries. OP pays 300k for a house. He should be able to have a **** on the couch at 3pm in the afternoon to pornhub on his 72" 3d hd Lcd smart as feck tv with dolby surround sound without some little bollixes staring in his window.

Evil.... Gtfo

Fleawuss · 12-03-2017 6:34pm

endacl wrote: »

Net curtains.

/thread

Twitch. Twitch.

Live65a846d0ee · 12-03-2017 6:34pm

Specialun wrote: »

Its my property. Im the bellend who paid 300k for it. They cannot play wherever they feel like just because there kids. I hope you're not a parent

Well you're lucky you are not my neighbor then. You are not special everyone paid for the house or rents beside you. I bet if someone kicks a ball into your garden they never get it back then. Some people just need to relax and get a grip and show some humanity. World would be a much better place.

Live65a846d0ee · 12-03-2017 6:35pm

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Rather ironic sentiment, don't you think?

Look up the definition of irony.

Live65a846d0ee · 12-03-2017 6:35pm

ChikiChiki wrote: »

They need to learn boundaries. Evil.... Gtfo

Pure evil.

Samuel T. Cogley · 12-03-2017 6:36pm

Live65a846d0ee wrote: »

Well you're lucky you are not my neighbor then. You are not special everyone paid for the house or rents beside you. I bet if someone kicks a ball into your garden they never get it back then. Some people just need to relax and get a grip and show some humanity. World would be a much better place.

It would be if people learned to respect boundaries as well.

Ted111 · 12-03-2017 6:36pm

I think Barney's in the right.

Specialun · 12-03-2017 6:37pm

Live65a846d0ee wrote: »

Well you're lucky you are not my neighbor then. You are not special everyone paid for the house or rents beside you. I bet if someone kicks a ball into your garden they never get it back then. Some people just need to relax and get a grip and show some humanity. World would be a much better place.

Can i go next door and stare in my neighbours windows then..in your world it looks like i can

12-03-2017 6:38pm

anti-climb paint on the windowsill, or axel grease

anewme · 12-03-2017 6:38pm

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

You may have missed my first post, I don't read the entire thread either though so fair enough. However the OP has now left himself no where to go. A softly, softly may have thrown the OPs neighbour off guard and the kids would have still had their bollocking. Now he's got a fairly useless parent who is probably at home ranting about the wanker at number 5, the kids probably realise they're not going to get in trouble for doing it again.

Calling the guards would possibly be unhelpful in certain areas.

I did read your first post, I believe you should always stand your ground when someone comes to your door, the onus is on them to be polite, I'd not tolerate anyone ranting at me at my door. Or kicking it.

I don't agree he's no where to go, the da is probably ranting about the dick around the corner, but would still tell the child to stay away rather than cause more grief.

Agree re the Gardai, depends on the area, it would work where I live, no one here would appreciate Gardai knocking at their door over kids.

ChikiChiki · 12-03-2017 6:38pm

Live65a846d0ee wrote: »

Well you're lucky you are not my neighbor then. You are not special everyone paid for the house or rents beside you. I bet if someone kicks a ball into your garden they never get it back then. Some people just need to relax and get a grip and show some humanity. World would be a much better place.

I had a neighbour who used to put a knife in every football we kicked over his wall as kids. That was wrong. The OP's scenario is different.

Milly33 · 12-03-2017 6:38pm

Haha oh the precious kids of today you cant be upsetting them like that... In fairness i would kinda argree more the OP than the kids Dad.. The Dad should have come over and got the full story before starting off with mouthing off.. You should look at electric fences..

Professor Moriarty · 12-03-2017 6:40pm

Live65a846d0ee wrote: »

Well you're lucky you are not my neighbor then. You are not special everyone paid for the house or rents beside you. I bet if someone kicks a ball into your garden they never get it back then. Some people just need to relax and get a grip and show some humanity. World would be a much better place.

Or some people could respect other people's property and right to privacy. This isn't about some kid coming in to get their ball, this is three 10-12 year olds peering in through the window. It's natural to ask them to leave. Maybe shouting at them wasn't the best policy but it certainly isn't behaviour that you should have to tolerate.

Specialun · 12-03-2017 6:41pm

ChikiChiki wrote: »

They need to learn boundaries. OP pays 300k for a house. He should be able to have a **** on the couch at 3pm in the afternoon to pornhub on his 72" 3d hd Lcd smart as feck tv with dolby surround sound without some little bollixes staring in his window.

Evil.... Gtfo

Sounds like a fantastic afternoon to me

Panthro · 12-03-2017 6:42pm

Pull the curtains....

Samuel T. Cogley · 12-03-2017 6:42pm

anewme wrote: »

Agree re the Gardai, depends on the area, it would work where I live, no one here would appreciate Gardai knocking at their door over kids.

The guards aren't going to turn up for kids in the garden.

lawred2 · 12-03-2017 6:45pm

Specialun wrote: »

So i was up stairs an hour ago and i could hear my dog going nuts barking..a ran down, opened the door to see 3 kids staring in my living room window..they were actually leaning on the window sill. I went out a said go away..10 mins later its off again..i stormed out and shouted at them " i said go away, this isnt your house and get off my lawn" . I caught a kids bike and pushed it back into the middle of the green

15 mins later i hear my door bell and its my neighbour

"What gets you off shouting at my kids" is what im greeted with
" they were on my lawn twice pal, this is my house and not there playground" says I
" you have no right to raise your voice at my kids" says he
Im a bit pissed off now so I says " listen her pal dont come to my door mouthing off. Wouldnt it be more in line if you disciplined the kids. You dont own this green and they shouldnt be on my lawn. Now go away "

He this boots my front door and storms off

What a massive dick.

Have you had any instances like this. Are your neighbours dicks

Your neighbor is a knob and should be ashamed of himself.

However, did you really need to be shouting at kids? What exactly were they doing? Could you not have dealt with the matter without resorting to that?

anewme · 12-03-2017 6:45pm

ChikiChiki wrote: »

I had a neighbour who used to put a knife in every football we kicked over his wall as kids. That was wrong. The OP's scenario is different.

We had one neighbour who lived beside the green and the ball was constantly going in. They always returned it though. One time they must have had enough of it so when we knocked (probably after the 19th time that day) they opened the floor - is this it? With the ball sitting on top of a pitchfork hissing away deflating.

We were more careful in the future.

I can still picture them opening the door as if the ball had just landed on the pitchfork!

Specialun · 12-03-2017 6:47pm

lawred2 wrote: »

Your neighbor is a knob and should be ashamed of himself.

However, did you really need to be shouting at kids? What exactly were they doing? Could you not have dealt with the matter without resorting to that?

2 of them were staring in my window..the 3rd when i went out came from beside the house by the bins

Discodog · 12-03-2017 6:49pm

A friend of mine saved for years & finally got a nice little semi detached in a nice quiet estate. Then the owner next door rented his house to a "settled" traveler family. So my friend is sitting in her back garden & three little scroats decide to sit on the wall with their legs in her garden. She carried on reading her book until one said "are you going to show us yer tits missus". Within hours I was being asked to fit a high trellis screen on the wall.

Eventually they were evicted after causing chaos. Gems like chainsawing logs on their front lawn at 11pm. After they moved out the neighbour was burgled. The Garda CSI arrived & started looking around. I asked if they knew who used to live next door. When I told them, they shut the door & drove off :pac:

anewme · 12-03-2017 6:49pm

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

The guards aren't going to turn up for kids in the garden.

I'm not saying for kids in the garden, but what happened as a result of kids in the garden, I'm saying for kicking the door. criminal damage.

It's not acceptable to call to a neighbours house and kick their door under any circumstances.

Something stupid like kids in the garden has already escalated to possible damage to property.

colm_mcm · 12-03-2017 6:53pm

Serious answer is to call over to the neighbour now that you've both calmed down and explain that you want him to make sure his kids aren't coming over and staring in your windows. Apologise for throwing the kids bike and if he's reasonable he'll apologise for kitking your door.
Don't go down the "trespassing on my property" road.
No point in having neighbours that don't get on with you. You'd need to do something this evening to have any effect.

Otherwise, burn his house down. Unless it's a semi-d.

murpho999 · 12-03-2017 6:54pm

They way you use 'Pal' makes you sound very aggressive to be honest.

Discodog · 12-03-2017 6:54pm

The sad thing is that the inaction by the Guards causes a lot of this. If a Guard popped in & had a word with the parents it could be nipped in the bud. These kids & parents will carry on because there are no consequences.

Tomk1 · 12-03-2017 6:57pm

Specialun wrote: »

So i was up stairs an hour ago and i could hear my dog going nuts barking..a ran down, opened the door to see 3 kids staring in my living room window..they were actually leaning on the window sill. I went out a said go away..10 mins later its off again..i stormed out and shouted at them " i said go away, this isnt your house and get off my lawn" . I caught a kids bike and pushed it back into the middle of the green

15 mins later i hear my door bell and its my neighbour

"What gets you off shouting at my kids" is what im greeted with
" they were on my lawn twice pal, this is my house and not there playground" says I
" you have no right to raise your voice at my kids" says he
Im a bit pissed off now so I says " listen her pal dont come to my door mouthing off. Wouldnt it be more in line if you disciplined the kids. You dont own this green and they shouldnt be on my lawn. Now go away "

He this boots my front door and storms off

What a massive dick.

Have you had any instances like this. Are your neighbours dicks

I know a woman that had problems with kids throwing stones at her windows, dareing the youngest to ring doorbell, that kind of stuff. She lived alone and was at wits end, she was planning on selling. Someone asked me to put up a camera for her, when I called she said she returned it due to something missing, it was a clear lie, as she said that she feared the camera would cause more problems. She had the Guards many times but nothing they could do even though they knew excatly which kids as some lived a few doors up, & without proof the parents back up the kids.

I told her if this was the USA she could have a gun, its her property to protect. Anyway latter that week her son put up the camera and since that.. nothing has happened, the kids have stayed away.

It was one of those Aldi-wildlife cams so doesn't look like standard security cam. It self records with movement, battery last 6 months & unless something happens no need to spend hours viewing vid.

(In your case I bet little Johny-jnr said dad that madguy in no4 pushed me off my bike for no reason..a few tears- of course the dad would get angry)
Get some descret cams and fence off your propery, if they enter your propery by jumping over a fence, they'll be trespassing -once you have it on cam.

Danonino. · 12-03-2017 6:58pm

Grab a few friends, few cans of Dutch gold and a firelog, set up outside the neighbours house with a guitar and play nothing but wonderwall.

Be grand.

Professor Moriarty · 12-03-2017 6:59pm

Tomk1 wrote: »

I know a woman that had problems with kids throwing stones at her windows, dareing the youngest to ring doorbell, that kind of stuff. She lived alone and was at wits end, she was planning on selling. Someone asked me to put up a camera for her, when I called she said she returned it due to something missing, it was a clear lie, as she said that she feared the camera would cause more problems. She had the Guards many times but nothing they could do even though they knew excatly which kids as some lived a few doors up, & without proof the parents back up the kids.

I told her if this was the USA she could have a gun, its her property to protect. Anyway latter that week her son put up the camera and since that.. nothing has happened, the kids have stayed away.

It was one of those Aldi-wildlife cams so doesn't look like standard security cam. It self records with movement, battery last 6 months & unless something happens no need to spend hours viewing vid.

(In your case I bet little Johny-jnr said dad that madguy in no4 pushed me off my bike for no reason..a few tears- of course the dad would get angry)
Get some descret cams and fence off your propery, if they enter your propery by jumping over a fence, they'll be trespassing -once you have it on cam.

Think twice about filming and recording children. Only saying.

Specialun · 12-03-2017 7:00pm

murpho999 wrote: »

They way you use 'Pal' makes you sound very aggressive to be honest.

You can tell how i used it verbally by reading it

Fair play

12-03-2017 7:04pm

Discodog wrote: »

The sad thing is that the inaction by the Guards causes a lot of this. If a Guard popped in & had a word with the parents it could be nipped in the bud. These kids & parents will carry on because there are no consequences.

LOL
Cue the dad saying ' wasn't my son, he's been here all afternoon, with me, playing PlayStation'

Outlaw Pete · 12-03-2017 7:08pm

As long as you refer to your garden as a lawn, the local kids will never respect you, OP.

I would never say anything to the kids around here, they'd batter me.

Panthro · 12-03-2017 7:16pm

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Think twice about filming and recording children. Only saying.

He'd be recording his grass growing.

RoYoBo · 12-03-2017 7:20pm

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Think twice about filming and recording children. Only saying.

He's not filming and recording children - he would have a webcam set up for security outside his door/window, same as any other house, supermarket or business anywhere. The kids can only be recorded on it if they're somewhere they're not supposed to be.

Elemonator · 12-03-2017 7:25pm

If he booted your door, there is a high chance he is a degenerate who has no means of expressing himself other than through violence. A complete waste of space.

Kids will be kids, but they will be in the parents image also.

Professor Moriarty · 12-03-2017 7:26pm

RoYoBo wrote: »

He's not filming and recording children - he would have a webcam set up for security outside his door/window, same as any other house, supermarket or business anywhere. The kids can only be recorded on it if they're somewhere they're not supposed to be.

You're right. Still...

blinding · 12-03-2017 7:34pm

Have you considered burying one of the kids under the Lawn......There not as cheeky after one of them goes missing..........or so I'm told.........

Discodog · 12-03-2017 7:39pm

bubblypop wrote: »

LOL
Cue the dad saying ' wasn't my son, he's been here all afternoon, with me, playing PlayStation'

But the parent is then aware. Very easy to take a video from your own property. It's better than doing nothing.

Erik Shin · 12-03-2017 7:39pm

blinding wrote: »

Have you considered burying one of the kids under the Lawn......There not as cheeky after one of them goes missing..........or so I'm told.........

His neighbours aren't called McCann are they ?

KERSPLAT! · 12-03-2017 7:48pm

Live65a846d0ee wrote: »

Jesus, relax, it's such a nice day outside and you get mad about nothing. It's children playing for ****s sake get a ****ing grip. Evil human being, just has to infect everyone else with their bad mood.

Mod

Banned for trolling.

Come on folks, when it's as clear as day someone is trolling just report the post and we'll clean it up if we agree. Responding is feeding them, that's what they want.

flutered · 12-03-2017 7:48pm

jacksie66 wrote: »

Take a dump on your neighbors lawn, then piss on his car door handles..

dont leave out the letter box

Tramore Tilly · 12-03-2017 7:51pm

How old were the kids?

Just had a bit of a barney with a neighbour

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