Cork 2016 Route news

embraer170 · 01-06-2016 04:06PM

Is he saying anything interesting?

highlydebased · 01-06-2016 06:49PM

There was (apparently) a Red C poll done about the Norwegian flights.

http://aviationtribune.com/uncategorized/norwegian-strong-support-new-transatlantic-flights-cork/

n new polling carried out by leading Irish research company Red C, a nationally representative sample of 1,004 adults aged 18+ across the Republic of Ireland were asked about their views on the planned new flights. The polling sample also included approximately 280 Munster residents.

Results from the Munster residents polled reveal that:

58% said they were aware of Norwegian’s plans for new US flights from Cork and Shannon
96% felt that it was important to have US routes from Cork and Shannon Airports
89% felt that a low-cost offering on transatlantic routes is needed in the Irish market
More than three-quarters (82%) of Munster residents said that, if they were to fly to Boston or New York in the next 12 months, they would use Norwegian’s proposed services from Cork

So a single plane load said they'd use the service. If this what they are basing commercial decisions on I'm going to count my change from the back of the couch and start an airline :pac:

JCX BXC · 01-06-2016 06:58PM

The second point seems rather absurd.

L1011 · 01-06-2016 07:36PM

highlydebased wrote: »

So a single plane load said they'd use the service. If this what they are basing commercial decisions on I'm going to count my change from the back of the couch and start an airline :pac:

Representative sampling is accurate to about 95-98% for the entire population and RedC are pretty much the industry experts at representative sampling. 280 is a small sample, though.

kub · 01-06-2016 08:38PM

So that is the Joe Soap numbers, what about the Pfizers, Apples, Emc's etc of this world?

JCX BXC · 01-06-2016 08:45PM

kub wrote: »

So that is the Joe Soap numbers, what about the Pfizers, Apples, Emc's etc of this world?

Their presence was grossly over-estimated for the LCY route, is it the same for the US routes?

embraer170 · 01-06-2016 09:48PM

A Norwegian Boeing 737 is actually a very pleasant machine to fly on. I'd take it over an Aer Lingus A330 or Boeing 757 any day.

snotboogie · 01-06-2016 10:41PM

kub wrote: »

So that is the Joe Soap numbers, what about the Pfizers, Apples, Emc's etc of this world?

EMC, who are now Dell, would be the main business users of the route i'd imagine. The global enterprise HQ of the new combined company will be in Boston and the Cork EMC facility feeds into that. Their sister companies with a large presence in Cork; VMware and VCE, would be using the route too i'd imagine. EMC have been the primary company calling for a Cork East Coast route, so I hope they use it if it passes. Boston Scientific, who also have a large presence in Cork, would hopefully get on board in a big way too.

Apple, who also have made noises about a Cork East Coast route, i'd be less sure about. I have a couple of family members working there and they told me they very rarely hear of people taking business trips to the East Coast. Is Cork-Logan-SF really that more convenient than Cork-London-SF?

ongarboy · 01-06-2016 11:07PM

snotboogie wrote: »

Apple, who also have made noises about a Cork East Coast route, i'd be less sure about. I have a couple of family members working there and they told me they very rarely hear of people taking business trips to the East Coast. Is Cork-Logan-SF really that more convenient than Cork-London-SF?

Don't you mean US west coast if you are referring to San Francisco?

JCX BXC · 01-06-2016 11:18PM

ongarboy wrote: »

Don't you mean US west coast if you are referring to San Francisco?

Don't think they intended to use West Coast.

Pat Dunne · 02-06-2016 12:03AM

embraer170 wrote: »

A Norwegian Boeing 737 is actually a very pleasant machine to fly on. I'd take it over an Aer Lingus A330 or Boeing 757 any day.

I'd go along with that.
Flew with NAX a number of times now, their 737-800 are nicely done and the free wifi was great.

snotboogie · 02-06-2016 07:28AM

ongarboy wrote: »

snotboogie wrote: »

Apple, who also have made noises about a Cork East Coast route, i'd be less sure about. I have a couple of family members working there and they told me they very rarely hear of people taking business trips to the East Coast. Is Cork-Logan-SF really that more convenient than Cork-London-SF?

Don't you mean US west coast if you are referring to San Francisco?

Nope, they were pushing for an East Coast route, hence my question

lisasimpson · 07-06-2016 12:39PM

And a positive note numbers up over 9 percent for May..hopefully no more cancelled routes

snotboogie · 07-06-2016 12:41PM

lisasimpson wrote: »

And a positive note numbers up over 9 percent for May..hopefully no more cancelled routes

How much of that 9% is London City? That section obviously won't be sustainable growth.

lisasimpson · 07-06-2016 12:46PM

Not sure but you would also have the leeds, southhampton and new german route in that figure

snotboogie · 07-06-2016 12:48PM

lisasimpson wrote: »

Not sure but you would also have the leeds, southhampton and new german route in that figure

Have to wait a while to find out I guess, the CSO website only has a breakdown up to February.

Rocko · 23-06-2016 10:26AM

Looks like they're working on new routes. Budapest or Canada would be great.

http://www.airport-business.com/2016/06/direct-transatlantic-flights-next-phase-corks-development/

Mr rebel · 30-06-2016 09:58PM

It would be great if they could switch the Berlin route from Shannon to Cork to compliment their existing Munich and Düsseldorf routes.

JCX BXC · 30-06-2016 10:02PM

Mr rebel wrote: »

It would be great if they could switch the Berlin route from Shannon to Cork to compliment their existing Munich and Düsseldorf routes.

Don't think compliment is the correct word for that situation.

Marginalize and destroy seem like apt words.

Realistically though cork have done well with the F* off Ryanair policy and they should definitely not change that.

kevinandrew · 30-06-2016 10:09PM

One of the biggest losses to Cork Airport was Wizz Air, it was a shame to see the airline leave Cork after Ryanair's onslaught as they could have been quite a big player at the airport today had they stayed. It's probably the exact reason Ryanair decided to duplicate all of Wizz Air's routes, dump fares and then exit the market once Wizz was successfully chased away.

I think they definitely would have looked at Budapest and a few others by now.

kub · 30-06-2016 10:19PM

Carnacalla wrote: »

Don't think compliment is the correct word for that situation.

Marginalize and destroy seem like apt words.

Realistically though cork have done well with the F* off Ryanair policy and they should definitely not change that.

Its the Dublin accent that brings out that in Cork people

highlydebased · 30-06-2016 10:50PM

Mr rebel wrote: »

It would be great if they could switch the Berlin route from Shannon to Cork to compliment their existing Munich and Düsseldorf routes.

Berlin route doing just fine from Shannon, thanks

Nemanrio · 01-07-2016 07:09AM

Carnacalla wrote: »

Don't think compliment is the correct word for that situation.

Marginalize and destroy seem like apt words.

Realistically though cork have done well with the F* off Ryanair policy and they should definitely not change that.

All well and good wanting to **** them but priced flights to Madrid from cork with Iberia compared to that with Ryanair from Dub and the difference in price was very significant.

JCX BXC · 01-07-2016 08:28AM

Nemanrio wrote: »

All well and good wanting to **** them but priced flights to madrid from coek with Iberia compared to that with Ryanair from Dub and the difference in price was very significant.

Would you rather expensive flights to loads of destinations, or cheap flights to a handful of destinations?

Nemanrio · 01-07-2016 09:04AM

Carnacalla wrote: »

Would you rather expensive flights to loads of destinations, or cheap flights to a handful of destinations?

Cork has neither imo so don't see the point in your question.

Dublin has loads of destinations at relatively cheap prices. Cork simply cannot compete.

JCX BXC · 01-07-2016 09:08AM

Nemanrio wrote: »

Cork has neither imo so don't see the point in your question.

Dublin has loads of destinations at relatively cheap prices. Cork simply cannot compete.

Cork has a fair few city destinations to be fair, which are ever increasing. You can only build towards one of the two options I said above.

Yes, Dublin is a bigger airport with more destinations. Shocker right? Of course Cork cannot reach the same as Dublin, who's suggesting that?

So I ask you, would.you rather Munich, Dusseldorf, Madrid, Paris, Amsterdam, Barcelona, LA Rochelle be removed and replaced by cheap Berlin, Krakow and Warsaw flights?

Nemanrio · 01-07-2016 10:00AM

Carnacalla wrote: »

Cork has a fair few city destinations to be fair, which are ever increasing. You can only build towards one of the two options I said above.

Yes, Dublin is a bigger airport with more destinations. Shocker right? Of course Cork cannot reach the same as Dublin, who's suggesting that?

So I ask you, would.you rather Munich, Dusseldorf, Madrid, Paris, Amsterdam, Barcelona, LA Rochelle be removed and replaced by cheap Berlin, Krakow and Warsaw flights?

Destinations to mainland aren't good enough. The problem I encounter when I want to book a flight from cork is either

a) Flight departure time not suiting.
b) Not competitive rice wise.

I would prefer cheaper routes such as Berlin,Krakow etc. because if I want to go elsewhere like Barcelona Amsterdam etc I would look at other airports.

highlydebased · 01-07-2016 01:37PM

In the echo:

Hopes for Cork flights to Boston with Norwegian Air International have suffered a significant blow after the US Department of Transportation blocked its sister company from flying from London to the USA yesterday.
The DOT put the skids of Norwegian Air UK’s application to fly from Gatwick in London to the USA under the Open Skies Agreement between Europe and the US.

The DOT said that it would not be in the public interest to grant the exemption to Norwegian Air UK because of “novel and complex” issues raised by its application.
Despite the DOT tentatively granting a licence to Norwegian Air International to fly from Cork to Boston last April, opponents of plans say they are confident that will be shot down also.

Sara Nelson, president of the Association of Flight Attendants, said following the UK decision: “The DOT’s decision to deny an exemption for Norwegian UK is particularly important as the department continues to consider the Norwegian Air International (NAI) foreign air carrier permit. Norwegian’s attempts to obtain foreign air carrier permits for different subsidiaries is a purposeful effort to undermine strong labour laws across the world.”

http://www.eveningecho.ie/cork-news/us-department-transportation-blocked-sister-company-flying-london-usa-yesterday/2440637/

Noxegon · 01-07-2016 04:40PM

Nemanrio wrote: »

Destinations to mainland aren't good enough. The problem I encounter when I want to book a flight from cork is either

a) Flight departure time not suiting.
b) Not competitive rice wise.

Go for the Chow Mein instead?

kub · 01-07-2016 06:48PM

Nemanrio wrote: »

Destinations to mainland aren't good enough. The problem I encounter when I want to book a flight from cork is either

a) Flight departure time not suiting.
b) Not competitive rice wise.

I would prefer cheaper routes such as Berlin,Krakow etc. because if I want to go elsewhere like Barcelona Amsterdam etc I would look at other airports.

A private jet is probably the best solution

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