Cork 2016 Route news

kub

highlydebased wrote: »

In the echo:



http://www.eveningecho.ie/cork-news/us-department-transportation-blocked-sister-company-flying-london-usa-yesterday/2440637/

I thought that was an existing route.

roundymac

kub wrote: »

I thought that was an existing route.

It is but with a different AOC than the one they are trying to get now. Same as the one they want for Cork.

JCX BXC

roundymac wrote: »

It is but with a different AOC than the one they are trying to get now. Same as the one they want for Cork.

Actually, it was a different one again! They wanted a UK subsidiary too!

L1011

They use their UK subsidiary for some flights already and will certainly want to hold on to it (non-UK ownership would likely be grandfathered) post-Brexit.

Nonoperational

Jack Lynch lounge is now listed on Oneworld site as a partner lounge, also on their own access policy online they mention one world.

Went to access with one world Sapphire gained on AA, travelling on a one world ticketed flight, the lady working there hadn't a clue and denied access saying they only allow one world entry if gained through BA. Very shoddy and unprofessional. Shouldn't be on the respective sites if they don't allow it.

roundymac

Should have called for the airport duty manager. I'd follow that up with a letter, I would'nt let them away with it.

zone 1

just wondering for what plane will be doing cork lanzarote on thursday aerlingus or how you would fine out cheers.

VG31

zone 1 wrote: »

just wondering for what plane will be doing cork lanzarote on thursday aerlingus or how you would fine out cheers.

A320. If you're looking for the aircraft registration, that won't be known until the day of the flight.

kub

Usually it is the one that departs for Barcelona at 06:25 on Thursday mornings seems to be the one that does the Lanzarote run after lunch.

zone 1

thanks lads...

Jamie2k9

Can't remember but think one IRFU A320 is based this week so you might get on it.

kub

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Can't remember but think one IRFU A320 is based this week so you might get on it.

There is indeed, i saw it on approach to 17 earlier today. Actually is it still 17?

JCX BXC

kub wrote: »

There is indeed, i saw it on approach to 17 earlier today. Actually is it still 17?

Yep, still 17, hear it on Fr24

When is this change going to happen?

Bussywussy

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Can't remember but think one IRFU A320 is based this week so you might get on it.

DEI is down to operate it but it can change anytime over next few days

Zonda999

I see the airport put in a decent performance in June but does anyone know how in general the new routes like Leeds, Southampton and Madrid and Dusseldorf are doing?

Jamie2k9

Zonda999 wrote: »

I see the airport put in a decent performance in June but does anyone know how in general the new routes like Leeds, Southampton and Madrid and Dusseldorf are doing?

SOU/DUS doing well, expect MAD is as it had a good start. LBA is week but that's the schedule.

Loss of LCY may create a slight drag on numbers from October but extra FR to sun should help.

roundymac

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/airlines-use-m8-as-excuse-not-to-use-cork-airport-419166.html
Some strong words being said here,,,,EI would have a 757 operating T/A out of Cork in the morning if Norwegian start.

Jamie2k9

roundymac wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/airlines-use-m8-as-excuse-not-to-use-cork-airport-419166.html
Some strong words being said here,,,,EI would have a 757 operating T/A out of Cork in the morning if Norwegian start.

EI wouldn't, if ITAA knew how EI operate they would know they don't just dump capacity because a competitor enters the route and creates a competition as to who makes the most losses and blinks first.

It's the charter market that has hit Cork much harder than other airports.

JCX BXC

Not like they have ever tried routes that have failed due to lack of a market *cough* Prague *cough* London City *cough* Brussels *cough* Lisbon.

And Mr. Dawson, where would they magically source this suitable 757 that are very hard to acquire now days? Why would EI jump in?

Tenger

roundymac wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/airlines-use-m8-as-excuse-not-to-use-cork-airport-419166.html
Some strong words being said here........

“The tour operator business in Ireland is almost dead and buried. In 2007 there were 1.3m chartered seats leaving this country, now it’s less than 200,000.”

I think the internet might also be to blame here. People book direct.
Mr.Dawson might be throwing blame around at the wrong target.

Mr rebel

I hope the Cork-Bordeaux route proved successful and that it will return again for next summer.

Jamie2k9

Mr rebel wrote: »

I hope the Cork-Bordeaux route proved successful and that it will return again for next summer.

It's been running for a number of years so chances are it will

Mr rebel

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

It's been running for a number of years so chances are it will

Oh I didn't know that....good to hear:)
Bordeaux is a wonderful city and I certainly intend to return again next year.

lisasimpson

Carnacalla wrote: »

Not like they have ever tried routes that have failed due to lack of a market *cough* Prague *cough* London City *cough* Brussels *cough* Lisbon.

And Mr. Dawson, where would they magically source this suitable 757 that are very hard to acquire now days? Why would EI jump in?

Im faireness three times a day to London city was a bit much with all the existing flights to london...twice daily would have been enough
Lisbon was a popular flight but the airline thought there was better opportunities else where..hopefully another airline will pick it up as i know loads would like to see it back.

The new madrid route appears to have been popular. Hopefully the service will be back next year for a longer run.

One thing with cork airport is for some reason people only think of aer lingus and ryanair... whenever you see an artical about routes on the airports or he evening echos facebook page people start looking for routes that are already served... when i used the route his summer people at work were looking at me when i said it was from cork...Management may do a bit of work on this issue
also it has been noted that a few weekends in dublin the waiting times to get through security have been long...an area cork could try take advantage off.. one think i love about cork the ease of use getting to he flight

snotboogie

lisasimpson wrote: »

Carnacalla wrote: »

Not like they have ever tried routes that have failed due to lack of a market *cough* Prague *cough* London City *cough* Brussels *cough* Lisbon.

And Mr. Dawson, where would they magically source this suitable 757 that are very hard to acquire now days? Why would EI jump in?

Im faireness three times a day to London city was a bit much with all the existing flights to london...twice daily would have been enough
Lisbon was a popular flight but the airline thought there was better opportunities else where..hopefully another airline will pick it up as i know loads would like to see it back.

The new madrid route appears to have been popular. Hopefully the service will be back next year for a longer run.

One thing with cork airport is for some reason people only think of aer lingus and ryanair... whenever you see an artical about routes on the airports or he evening echos facebook page people start looking for routes that are already served... when i used the route his summer people at work were looking at me when i said it was from cork...Management may do a bit of work on this issue
also it has been noted that a few weekends in dublin the waiting times to get through security have been long...an area cork could try take advantage off.. one think i love about cork the ease of use getting to he flight

The numbers are out for LCY-ORK from October to May. It had weak numbers in January but it was trending upwards hugely after that, in May it had almost identical numbers to the Cork-Paris route and it went from half the passenger numbers of Shannon-Manchester in January to beating that route for traffic in May. It was the 8th most popular route from Munster to the UK in May, beating Cork-Liverpool, Cork-Birmingham and Shannon-Manchester. The numbers for June will be interesting.

roundymac

Carnacalla wrote: »

Not like they have ever tried routes that have failed due to lack of a market *cough* Prague *cough* London City *cough* Brussels *cough* Lisbon.

And Mr. Dawson, where would they magically source this suitable 757 that are very hard to acquire now days? Why would EI jump in?

Bad cough you have there Carnaclla. The same could be said about SNN but I won't because the mods would be safter me for that.:(

Pat Dunne

Mr Pat Dawson CEO of the Irish Travel Agents Association, said that hundreds of Cork people travel to the capital every day for flights, and noted that there would be “riots” if the opposite was expected of Dublin commuters.

"If you asked 10 planes of Dubliners every day to drive to Cork to get their flights there’d be riots in the morning".

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/airlines-use-m8-as-excuse-not-to-use-cork-airport-419166.html

I have to say I enjoyed these throwaway headline grabbing statements from the CEO of ITAA, Mr Pat Dawson, thank you sir you gave me a good laugh today.

Travel Agents are going the way of alot of small businesses that find themselves competing with large multi nationals and online businesses. Some have specialised in niche markets, come up with a new business model and others have gone bust!

Thankfully the days are long gone of having to make time during your working day and physically call into a local travel agent's to buy a simple airline ticket, let alone buying your pakage holiday. Holidays and people's travel arrangements have dramatically changed in the time since Mr Dawson established his own business in 1991 and he should have the good grace to acknowledge this.

Accusing airlines of been part of the problem whereby the bulk of the traffic goes through DUB may have some merit in Mr Dawson's eyes. However as airlines are very much commercial entities and only establish routes and bases where it is profitable to do. Highlighting a thankfully much improved road system as part of his argument is lazy and self indulgent on Mr Dawson's part.

JCX BXC

roundymac wrote: »

Bad cough you have there Carnaclla. The same could be said about SNN but I won't because the mods would be safter me for that.:(

I've never debated the lack of a market at Shannon, you would be absurd to do so, of course don't let that get in the way of your attempt to create a point out of nothing.

Shannon seemingly can't support European routes, Cork can't support US routes.

Now why is it everytime I make a point about Cork someone brings up Shannon? Its not related at all, and just completely brings the thread off point. Its also very tiring. I'm not a spokesperson for the airport, I'm not connected to the airport, and I don't believe in some magical wonderland for the airport.

JCX BXC

lisasimpson wrote: »

Im faireness three times a day to London city was a bit much with all the existing flights to london...twice daily would have been enough
Lisbon was a popular flight but the airline thought there was better opportunities else where..hopefully another airline will pick it up as i know loads would like to see it back.

The new madrid route appears to have been popular. Hopefully the service will be back next year for a longer run.

One thing with cork airport is for some reason people only think of aer lingus and ryanair... whenever you see an artical about routes on the airports or he evening echos facebook page people start looking for routes that are already served... when i used the route his summer people at work were looking at me when i said it was from cork...Management may do a bit of work on this issue
also it has been noted that a few weekends in dublin the waiting times to get through security have been long...an area cork could try take advantage off.. one think i love about cork the ease of use getting to he flight

I would agree with all of that, but its sadly just the reality of Aviation in Ireland. People are always too willing to travel to Dublin. The monopoly of the two airlines is probably not healthy as well for the regional airports, but we do still benefit from very cheap fares in Ireland.

I think Cork Airport needs to target marketing in a more effective way, I mean come on how many people actually read Twitter on a daily basis? Alot on this site maybe but elsewhere its fairly limited.

The airports doing very well currently as it is and I'd have good hopes for Madrid to be increased next year.

Mr rebel

Yeah most people I've spoken to are surprised you can fly from Cork to Madrid and didn't know about it. I just wish it was either Ryanair or Aer Lingus covering the route as Iberia Express appears to be a terrible airline.