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Shannon airport

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  • #452
    Clonmel1000
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    Just checking the departures from Shannon. I see a BA PLC flight listed to JFK. Can someone let me know who operates this flight?

    Thanks


  • #453
    JCX BXC
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    Clonmel1000 wrote: »
    Just checking the departures from Shannon. I see a BA PLC flight listed to JFK. Can someone let me know who operates this flight?

    Thanks

    BA operate a service from LCY (A small airport right in the centre of London that can only take very small planes) to JFK throgh Shannon on the way over.

    These flights are unique as they are in an A318, with extra fuel tanks and the configuration is 32 business class seats. The flights use the same flight number as Concorde's old service.

    They operate twice daily most days going from LCY-SNN-JFK with the earlier flight availing of preclearance. On the return it goes direct from JFK-LCY.

    Often a rare bird to be found. Not many A318's around, even less in full business configuration and in BA livery


  • #454
    roundymac
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    Bad news is that you have to go to LCY to avail of the flight. I often wonder how many extra seats would they sell if it could pick at SNN outbound.


  • #455
    JCX BXC
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    roundymac wrote: »
    Bad news is that you have to go to LCY to avail of the flight. I often wonder how many extra seats would they sell if it could pick at SNN outbound.

    In the BA/EI takeover press release, allowing passengers to board the flight in SNN was given as one of the possible growth for the airport.


  • #456
    Growler!!!
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    Scroll down to the Google Earth image and fill your boots with he 32 seat interior tour:pac:;).

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/72548302/a-glimpse-inside-ba-businessonly-flight-with-google


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  • #457
    goingnowhere
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    Shannon stop is mainly for fuel as can't take off fully loaded from LCY

    Preclearance is a helpful coincidence which ensured Shannon got the business


  • #458
    JCX BXC
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    goingnowhere wrote: »

    Preclearance is a helpful coincidence which ensured Shannon got the business

    In a way, yes. They could have also chosen Dublin.


  • #459
    Clonmel1000
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    BA operate a service from LCY (A small airport right in the centre of London that can only take very small planes) to JFK throgh Shannon on the way over.

    These flights are unique as they are in an A318, with extra fuel tanks and the configuration is 32 business class seats. The flights use the same flight number as Concorde's old service.

    They operate twice daily most days going from LCY-SNN-JFK with the earlier flight availing of preclearance. On the return it goes direct from JFK-LCY.

    Often a rare bird to be found. Not many A318's around, even less in full business configuration and in BA livery

    Thanks so much for the info.


  • #460
    Skuxx
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    There are no extra fuel tanks on the BA 318 that go to New York!


  • #461
    [Deleted User]
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    goingnowhere wrote: »
    Shannon stop is mainly for fuel as can't take off fully loaded from LCY

    Preclearance is a helpful coincidence which ensured Shannon got the business

    Multitude of factors in sure were taken into account.

    Weather, average weather across a year.

    Runway length, causes no limitation on operation.

    Charges, landing charges, fuelling, handling etc etc.

    Airport facilities like CBP, tech facilities, nav aids

    Proximity to Atlantic and average NAT tracks

    Quiet airport limiting chance of delays and slot restrictions

    Etc etc etc


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  • #462
    JCX BXC
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »

    Quiet airport limiting chance of delays and slot restrictions

    Etc etc etc

    Although according to the recently aired inside Shannon programme, there is a lacking in US (and widebody) stands during the peak summer season.


  • #463
    Jamie2k9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,785 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Although according to the recently aired inside Shannon programme, there is a lacking in US (and widebody) stands during the peak summer season.

    If they scheduled better they wouldn't be


  • #464
    [Deleted User]
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Although according to the recently aired inside Shannon programme, there is a lacking in US (and widebody) stands during the peak summer season.

    Easily sorted if the Shannon managers negotiated schedule changes. No shortage of facilities just bad management of current ones.


  • #465
    roundymac
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Although according to the recently aired inside Shannon programme, there is a lacking in US (and widebody) stands during the peak summer season.

    I saw the BA parked at a non airbridge connected stand in early Sept. I was surprised at that.


  • #466
    highlydebased
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    Tbh I think alot of it was put on for the programme


  • #467
    Davidth88
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    highlydebased wrote: »
    Tbh I think alot of it was put on for the programme

    I can confirm this , I know the guy who was involved in the making of this:-

    a) he said it was really difficult to find things to film
    b) he featured himself in things like the search unit bit.

    He did a get a great photo of himself in the cockpit of the An226 when it came to visit


  • #468
    Balf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 667 ✭✭✭Balf


    Davidth88 wrote: »
    he said it was really difficult to find things to film
    Would this be the same guy who said
    http://www.shannonairport.ie/gns/about-us/latest-news/latest-news/15-10-07/Inside_Shannon_TV_series_getting_hugely_positive_feedback_as_it_reaches_penultimate_episode_this_week.aspx

    We found out very quickly we could, in fact, have filled two series
    Checking on the ratings thread, the audience seemed to vanish after the first two episodes.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057421931&page=9


  • #469
    snubbleste
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    Norwegian coming to Shannon?
    http://clareherald.com/2016/03/shannon-confirms-deal-with-norwegian-air-75391/
    A Shannon Airport spokesman said:
    “We have a deal in place with Norwegian Airlines, having commenced discussions with them in 2014. This is dependent on licencing from the US authorities and we are supporting the airline in this through our network in the US and here in Ireland.
    This is an important opportunity for us and we look forward to having this new carrier at Shannon and growing passenger numbers and services here as a result,”


  • #470
    JCX BXC
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    Certainly hope not, would destroy the EI route to BOS, at least in the winter.


  • #471
    snubbleste
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    Competition is good!
    EI have had the Snn-Bos route to themselves for years


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  • #472
    JCX BXC
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    snubbleste wrote: »
    Competition is good!
    EI have had the Snn-Bos route to themselves for years

    Competition is good when there's room.
    BOS just manages at 5pw in the depth of winter.


  • #473
    snubbleste
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    All we know is that there are talks about talks.
    There's been no mention of destinations except US


  • #474
    JCX BXC
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    snubbleste wrote: »
    All we know is that there are talks about talks.
    There's been no mention of destinations except US

    http://clareherald.com/2016/02/new-airline-for-shannon-87534/


  • #475
    snubbleste
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    Did not see that. I searched the forum & everything.


  • #476
    JCX BXC
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    snubbleste wrote: »
    Did not see that. I searched the forum & everything.

    This ones not used too much, being honest I forgot it was here! It was fairly hidden in that article tbf.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057132113&page=192

    Try this thread, its alot more active.


  • #477
    Markcheese
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    Werent norwegian looking at doing cork boston.. but couldnt get the licence on the US side...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • #478
    BZ
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Competition is good when there's room.
    BOS just manages at 5pw in the depth of winter.

    If this route gets the go ahead it will be summer season only with a 737-800.


  • #479
    JCX BXC
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    Markcheese wrote: »
    Werent norwegian looking at doing cork boston.. but couldnt get the licence on the US side...

    They have plans to do ORK-BOS, which are still active pending US DOT approval. It hasn't been rejected.

    By the looks of it Norwegian approached SNN long before Cork (SNN in 2014).


  • #480
    JCX BXC
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    BZ wrote: »
    If this route gets the go ahead it will be summer season only with a 737-800.

    That's fair enough, I can see a justifiable market for that.


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  • #481
    imurdaddy
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    This funny when Norwegian announced flights for cork, there was great celebration at the death of Shannon, I wonder how many are so smug now?

    And let's be clear Norwegian are only playing games to screw employees but for the people of cork that didn't matter a dam, hopefully they operate from snn aer lingus have had it all their own way long enough and have shown no loyalty to snn or traveling pax, so best of luck to Norwegian!


  • #482
    Davys Fits
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    imurdaddy wrote: »
    This funny when Norwegian announced flights for cork, there was great celebration at the death of Shannon, I wonder how many are so smug now?

    And let's be clear Norwegian are only playing games to screw employees but for the people of cork that didn't matter a dam, hopefully they operate from snn aer lingus have had it all their own way long enough and have shown no loyalty to snn or traveling pax, so best of luck to Norwegian!

    Loyalty means nothing in aviation. But if EI can operate a leased 767 to BOS because theirs pilots dont want one in Dublin then maybe there is room for another operator on SNN-BOS.


  • #483
    JCX BXC
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    Davys Fits wrote: »
    But if EI can operate a leased 767 to BOS because theirs pilots dont want one in Dublin

    I don't follow.

    You realise that the pilots for the 757's are currently all based in SNN and by Air Contractors, not Aer Lingus, although I understand some Aer Lingus pilots do get mixed in there (Don't ask for details, I do not know them, although feel free to add).

    I agree though Loyalty means little or nothing, in almost every aspect of uncorrupted business.


  • #484
    roundymac
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    BZ wrote: »
    If this route gets the go ahead it will be summer season only with a 737-800.
    Could easily be upgraded to a 787.


  • #485
    JCX BXC
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    roundymac wrote: »
    Could easily be upgraded to a 787.

    I'd be skeptical of a market though, especially against EI and out of peak season.


  • #486
    BZ
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    http://www.newstalk.com/Kuwait-Airways-Ireland-Shannon-Airport-transit-service

    Kuwait Airways will tomorrow commence 3 weekly transit flights through Shannon from Kuwait to JFK on the westbound legs. A B777 will operate the route on Mondays, Wednesday's and Friday's. All passengers will be security cleared in SNN.


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  • #487
    TheFitz13
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    Will it collect passengers in Shannon?


  • #488
    L1011
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    No, and there is a good reason not to - the airline got in trouble with the FAA for refusing to take an Israeli passport holder on the JFK-LHR leg. If the stop is required for whatever reason (seems security issues of some kind - a 777 can and does do the route direct) there is little point doing it at an expensive slot controlled airport when there is a cheaper airport just as suitable.


  • #489
    JCX BXC
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    L1011 wrote: »
    No, and there is a good reason not to - the airline got in trouble with the FAA for refusing to take an Israeli passport holder on the JFK-LHR leg. If the stop is required for whatever reason (seems security issues of some kind - a 777 can and does do the route direct) there is little point doing it at an expensive slot controlled airport when there is a cheaper airport just as suitable.

    According to Kuwait law, a company registered in that country cannot facilitate or deal with in Israelis in anyway. Not a fault of the company.


  • #490
    highlydebased
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    Good business for the airport and will add to pax numbers too


  • #491
    Tenger
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    BZ wrote: »
    Kuwait Airways will tomorrow commence 3 weekly transit flights through Shannon from Kuwait to JFK on the westbound legs....... All passengers will be security cleared in SNN.
    Security only? No CBP?

    Why not operate direct if that is the case?


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  • #492
    Foggy43
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    Welcoming the announcement Andrew Murphy, chief commercial officer at Shannon Group, said: "We are looking forward to being able to offer the time-saving US Preclearance service at the earliest opportunity and to a successful partnership with Shannon Airport," he added.

    I think BZ meant CBP and not security on reading the article from Newstalk.


  • #493
    goingnowhere
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    Dont you have to go through a security screening to TSA standard (weaker than EU :D) when passing through CBP?


  • #494
    BZ
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    Foggy43 wrote: »
    Welcoming the announcement Andrew Murphy, chief commercial officer at Shannon Group, said: "We are looking forward to being able to offer the time-saving US Preclearance service at the earliest opportunity and to a successful partnership with Shannon Airport," he added.

    I think BZ meant CBP and not security on reading the article from Newstalk.

    No at the moment just security screening. Due to the short notice for CBP it will be another while before clearing as the application for clearance is still being processed.


  • #495
    JCX BXC
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    BZ wrote: »
    No at the moment just security screening. Due to the short notice for CBP it will be another while before clearing as the application for clearance is still being processed.

    Why security screening? What's the point?


  • #496
    Shannon757
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    What was the Cityjet SSJ doing in Shannon a while ago?


  • #497
    highlydebased
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    US Authorities unhappy about direct flights from Kuwait over security concerns, they are doing work on Kuwait airport which is the reason given. So the flight is being rescreened at Shannon


  • #498
    goingnowhere
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    US has standards which appear to require the use of body scanners, so you go through one in Dublin at CBP. Some airports, AMS and DUS for example body scan everyone now.

    If the departing airport doesn't meet the screening standard you ain't going to be allowed land in the US


  • #499
    JCX BXC
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    First time I ever experienced a full body scan was in CGN last year, they don't do this in SNN, at least not in the normal security.


  • #500
    BZ
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    Carnacalla wrote: »
    First time I ever experienced a full body scan was in CGN last year, they don't do this in SNN, at least not in the normal security.

    4 full body scanners have been installed in the last couple of weeks at central screening.


  • #501
    finbarrk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,487 ✭✭✭finbarrk


    2 new Winter routes announced yesterday. Malaga and Fuerteventura.
    http://www.clare.fm/news/ryanair-confirm-new-shannon-flights


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