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  • Registered Users Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Davys Fits


    imurdaddy wrote: »
    This funny when Norwegian announced flights for cork, there was great celebration at the death of Shannon, I wonder how many are so smug now?

    And let's be clear Norwegian are only playing games to screw employees but for the people of cork that didn't matter a dam, hopefully they operate from snn aer lingus have had it all their own way long enough and have shown no loyalty to snn or traveling pax, so best of luck to Norwegian!

    Loyalty means nothing in aviation. But if EI can operate a leased 767 to BOS because theirs pilots dont want one in Dublin then maybe there is room for another operator on SNN-BOS.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,122 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Davys Fits wrote: »
    But if EI can operate a leased 767 to BOS because theirs pilots dont want one in Dublin

    I don't follow.

    You realise that the pilots for the 757's are currently all based in SNN and by Air Contractors, not Aer Lingus, although I understand some Aer Lingus pilots do get mixed in there (Don't ask for details, I do not know them, although feel free to add).

    I agree though Loyalty means little or nothing, in almost every aspect of uncorrupted business.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭roundymac


    BZ wrote: »
    If this route gets the go ahead it will be summer season only with a 737-800.
    Could easily be upgraded to a 787.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,122 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    roundymac wrote: »
    Could easily be upgraded to a 787.

    I'd be skeptical of a market though, especially against EI and out of peak season.


  • Registered Users Posts: 705 ✭✭✭BZ


    http://www.newstalk.com/Kuwait-Airways-Ireland-Shannon-Airport-transit-service

    Kuwait Airways will tomorrow commence 3 weekly transit flights through Shannon from Kuwait to JFK on the westbound legs. A B777 will operate the route on Mondays, Wednesday's and Friday's. All passengers will be security cleared in SNN.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 696 ✭✭✭TheFitz13


    Will it collect passengers in Shannon?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,868 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    No, and there is a good reason not to - the airline got in trouble with the FAA for refusing to take an Israeli passport holder on the JFK-LHR leg. If the stop is required for whatever reason (seems security issues of some kind - a 777 can and does do the route direct) there is little point doing it at an expensive slot controlled airport when there is a cheaper airport just as suitable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,122 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    L1011 wrote: »
    No, and there is a good reason not to - the airline got in trouble with the FAA for refusing to take an Israeli passport holder on the JFK-LHR leg. If the stop is required for whatever reason (seems security issues of some kind - a 777 can and does do the route direct) there is little point doing it at an expensive slot controlled airport when there is a cheaper airport just as suitable.

    According to Kuwait law, a company registered in that country cannot facilitate or deal with in Israelis in anyway. Not a fault of the company.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    Good business for the airport and will add to pax numbers too


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 9,735 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    BZ wrote: »
    Kuwait Airways will tomorrow commence 3 weekly transit flights through Shannon from Kuwait to JFK on the westbound legs....... All passengers will be security cleared in SNN.
    Security only? No CBP?

    Why not operate direct if that is the case?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭Foggy43


    Welcoming the announcement Andrew Murphy, chief commercial officer at Shannon Group, said: "We are looking forward to being able to offer the time-saving US Preclearance service at the earliest opportunity and to a successful partnership with Shannon Airport," he added.

    I think BZ meant CBP and not security on reading the article from Newstalk.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,144 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    Dont you have to go through a security screening to TSA standard (weaker than EU :D) when passing through CBP?


  • Registered Users Posts: 705 ✭✭✭BZ


    Foggy43 wrote: »
    Welcoming the announcement Andrew Murphy, chief commercial officer at Shannon Group, said: "We are looking forward to being able to offer the time-saving US Preclearance service at the earliest opportunity and to a successful partnership with Shannon Airport," he added.

    I think BZ meant CBP and not security on reading the article from Newstalk.

    No at the moment just security screening. Due to the short notice for CBP it will be another while before clearing as the application for clearance is still being processed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,122 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    BZ wrote: »
    No at the moment just security screening. Due to the short notice for CBP it will be another while before clearing as the application for clearance is still being processed.

    Why security screening? What's the point?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭Shannon757


    What was the Cityjet SSJ doing in Shannon a while ago?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    US Authorities unhappy about direct flights from Kuwait over security concerns, they are doing work on Kuwait airport which is the reason given. So the flight is being rescreened at Shannon


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,144 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    US has standards which appear to require the use of body scanners, so you go through one in Dublin at CBP. Some airports, AMS and DUS for example body scan everyone now.

    If the departing airport doesn't meet the screening standard you ain't going to be allowed land in the US


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,122 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    First time I ever experienced a full body scan was in CGN last year, they don't do this in SNN, at least not in the normal security.


  • Registered Users Posts: 705 ✭✭✭BZ


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    First time I ever experienced a full body scan was in CGN last year, they don't do this in SNN, at least not in the normal security.

    4 full body scanners have been installed in the last couple of weeks at central screening.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,421 ✭✭✭finbarrk


    2 new Winter routes announced yesterday. Malaga and Fuerteventura.
    http://www.clare.fm/news/ryanair-confirm-new-shannon-flights


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭roundymac


    Do Kuwait change crews at SNN?. If so how long of a layover would they get? Extra income for the region if they do.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,122 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    roundymac wrote: »
    Do Kuwait change crews at SNN?. If so how long of a layover would they get? Extra income for the region if they do.


    If they do change crews, does this mean that the crew have to get a visa every time they land in Ireland? I notice Ethiopian Airlines change crew in Dublin, with alot/all crew staying in the Clayton.


  • Registered Users Posts: 705 ✭✭✭BZ


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    If they do change crews, does this mean that the crew have to get a visa every time they land in Ireland? I notice Ethiopian Airlines change crew in Dublin, with alot/all crew staying in the Clayton.

    Yes there is a crew change in SNN. Flights are working very well through SNN at the moment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 705 ✭✭✭BZ


    A BA 747 on the ground at the moment after diverting was enroute ORD-LHR.
    A BA 777-300 is due in around 1300 to collect the passengers.
    A la Compagnie 757 is due in around 1145 for a fuel stop.

    A good days spotting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Mahony0509


    El Al flight diverting right now. Reason unknown


  • Registered Users Posts: 526 ✭✭✭de biz


    Anyone confirm if a 747sp was expected into Shannon around 3am but never showed?


  • Registered Users Posts: 705 ✭✭✭BZ


    de biz wrote: »
    Anyone confirm if a 747sp was expected into Shannon around 3am but never showed?

    If you are referring to the one that was filed in from KBOS last night on flightaware N007JB it was only a test flight plan. Not actually a real aircraft just made up reg entered for the testing of a flight route.


  • Registered Users Posts: 526 ✭✭✭de biz


    BZ wrote: »
    If you are referring to the one that was filed in from KBOS last night on flightaware N007JB it was only a test flight plan. Not actually a real aircraft just made up reg entered for the testing of a flight route.

    Any idea who would be behind that?Must be someone who likes to wind up spotters!


  • Registered Users Posts: 705 ✭✭✭BZ


    de biz wrote: »
    Any idea who would be behind that?Must be someone who likes to wind up spotters!

    Ops departments or trip planners. Usually use a common aircraft but whoever was filing this test plan was obviously a big fan of the SP.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 Airplane Man


    Shannon Airports Pax number have rising to 1.77 million up to July 2016 thats in 12 month figures.


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