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Men No Longer Want to Date, Why?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭laoisgem


    There should be a distinction between those who class themselves as Incels and those those that try but wouldn't be touched with a barge pole! Obviously not involuntarily .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,019 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Self identifying incels from internet incel groups have killed people. Whether we (or they) identify them as incels or misogynists - they can be dangerous and identified as one of the fastest growing terrorism threats.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yeah, the term is misleading. Obviously not being able to garner any interest from women isn't a fault (some of these guys need to work on themselves and don't, but others seem kinda doomed). There are guys who have no luck with women and aren't misogynists. And there are guys with wives/girlfriends who have awful attitudes towards women (they're the worst. I remember a couple of those guys here - they had daughters too, whom I really felt sorry for).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    A characteristic of incels guys is blaming the women for not getting laid.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭WJL


    There's a growing attitude among some men that basically women are taking over. You'll find this attitude demonstrated when there's a woman on a GAA, Rugby or Soccer panel. It's full of misogyny.

    However, I do agree that the pendulum has swung too far in some areas like certain workplaces, where It's now harder to get a job, or promotion as a man.

    But this generalisation of the semester is ridiculous. People who treat others abysmally in both. I've been badly treated by women but recognise it was individuals. If you turn in on yourself and against all women, or men you'll be lost in bitterness. Besides all of us on here have/had a mother.

    Personally I have no time for people who make crude sexual remarks against either sex.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I understand men preferring only male commentators (obviously I don't understand woman-hating idiocy in this regard). But then there's Ian Wright on the TV panel for the Lionesses, which I don't mind either. I mean, the man is obviously an expert. I guess it should be about experience/expertise.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭WJL


    As regards pulling a decent woman. If you're above the worst looking 5% of men looks shouldn't be a problem. Be presentable and take care of basic grooming and cleanliness. Once you're working, in college or doing something with yourself you don't have to be JP McManus.

    Being able to hold a conversation, have a bit of charm about you, carry yourself well isn't too hard. Above all you want to be a bit of craic and light hearted. If counting the pennies to see who's spending the most you may aswell leave it so. You'll spend more dating than single. The art of chatting up is nearly gone.

    I remember 20 years ago going out to the pub and there was one lad shaping and bolloxing and looking under tremendous pressure trying to chat up a girl. Another of our group says 'Jaysus it should be fun, he's making a day's work out of it'😅



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,851 ✭✭✭gameoverdude




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭WJL


    Well I played the game to win, and I did😅

    You just keep being tense and angry. The game doesn't change. You get crap players in each decade. There'll be crap players regardless of the era.

    'A Man of Constant Craic'🤣🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,851 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    Involuntary is the key word.

    I might be going out on a limb here, but they can't get a shag? Many reasons they cant.

    I agree it shouldn't be used as an insult. There has to be a reason? Maybe look at themselves.

    A ride isn't hard to get. Or do you mean relationship?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭WJL


    Ah come on. I'm sure you look fine.

    Do you mean weight excess?

    You're obviously intelligent, plenty of sapiophiles out there. And just being a decent bloke covers a lot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,311 ✭✭✭lmao10


    I actually think a lot of the incel lark is from lads who are getting some kind of sexual thrill out of posting stuff that is degrading themselves. It's called masochism.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It is for some unfortunately. Moreso men seemingly. Are those who would have sex with absolutely anyone when drunk more likely to be men or women?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,851 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    Your problem so.

    Feck it lad. You're admitting defeat before the battle even started (I'm aware that phrase is probably a bad choice).

    I bet you have male mates who enjoy your company? Reason for that.

    Tldr: feck it. Be yourself and don't care so much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Sapiophile, yes - not sapiosexual. They like to hang out with the intelligent ones, but not date or have sex with them.

    I know lots of sapiosexual people, but you never see them having relationships with people who are traditionally ugly, or significantly older.

    Kind of odd, that...

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭WJL


    Human nature is human nature. Regardless of the era. The same mixture of kindness, empathy, honesty, dishonesty, using others, jealousy, begrudgery etc carried through our genes and influenced by environment.

    There is an element of luck in who we meet. We can be very lucky and someone turns out to be a better spouse/partner than we ever dreamed. Likewise we can be deceived, even those of us who think we're good at reading people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭WJL


    Well corrected. I know a few sapiosexuals. With not as good looking partners.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    In fairness, they get tired of Tinder dates quickly.

    The trick I find is confidence. Women are attracted to confident men nore than looks. Obviously that's going to take longer to shine though,, but so be it.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    I'm sorry but where are you getting the impression I can't get women near me? 😅

    Oh if only you knew. 🤣🤣🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,851 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    I don't have graphs on hand or anything, but I'd go with men.

    Some women I know would put most men to shame! Fair play.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭WJL


    I'm very much an amateur at this. But you know those meet up groups all over the country?

    Try something you're really into. Let people get to know you. I presume you mean no prominent jaw bone? I don't think that should hinder you. Forget numbering yourself and concentrate on enjoying yourself in the company of the opposite sex. I'm sure you have a lot of excellent qualities.

    Those dating apps are destroying the confidence of many people. Don't play that game.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    In some cases it's a matter of once bitten twice shy imo. When you get to a certain age you just feel it's not worth putting yourself through it all again, people can absolutely shock you after a huge amount of years together. In most relationship breakdowns someone gets badly hurt, it can be the man or woman imo, I'd never trust a man again and I know there's loads of men who would never trust a woman again, pretty evenly divided I think, such is life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    He's closer to 50 than 40 and he out here giving lads tips on how to pull🤣 Ask him if he has any matches and he'll ask will a lighter do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,851 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    Explain confidence? I wouldn't be the most confident, I can act it, but as I get older I tend to care less.

    Better word may be charisma? Be happy with yourself. Work on that first.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭WJL


    It's true. I can't imagine how your life would be destroyed after breakup when you've been together 20 years. And you see people among your friends who go through this and the age so much and you see it in their faces. Very few are amicable breakups in my experience too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭WJL


    You're around 30 and moaning like an oul lad 90 on every thread on boards. From Fair City to Russia🤣🤣 Ursula Jacob, I don't like the forward mark in GAA, living on here moaning. Imagine when you are 50🤣🤣

    I've a happy relationship. Not relying on pulling a slapper back to my house, which I share with 4 lads, every week end into my box room🤣

    The women are after you for your money..50k a year in IT🤣 You don't even have a house.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 601 ✭✭✭WJL


    Jesus. That's a hard read. Counselling? I don't agree on the looks at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,851 ✭✭✭gameoverdude


    No idea what a black pill is and couldn't be arsed googling it.

    The more I read the more I think you're looking for excuses.

    I may be completely wrong, but it sounds like you're not willing to look at yourself. Actions, or maybe non actions?

    Be honest with yourself. Come on. Think. Difficult thing to do to be throughly honest with yourself. I'm still trying!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭PalLimerick


    Honestly that would depend on who's looking at you. I know women and they think they're good looking and wouldn't be one out of ten. Again it would depend who's looking at them but plenty of males and females think they're zero out of ten.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 Anita22


    Anyone who has to state that. You've probably never been with a woman.

    Drop kick a woman in the ovaries. Wasn't that the expression you used on the FairCity thread? One fella should do to a female character. Sicko



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