Transgender man wins women's 100 yd and 400 yd freestyle races.

Vote4Squirrels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121996263#Comment_121996263

It's almost if millennia of biology giving rise to male aggression isn't countered by a few months of saying you're a woman.

Horrific that quote.

batman_oh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121996279#Comment_121996279

So brave, we should celebrate the bravery. Disgusting that this was allowed at any point

plodder

CNN making fools of themselves over that NAIA decision

Advocates of banning transgender women from women’s sports
have argued that transgender women have a physical advantage over
cisgender women in sports.

But mainstream science does not support that conclusion. A
2017 report in the journal Sports Medicine that reviewed several related
studies found “no direct or consistent research” on trans people having
an athletic advantage over their cisgender peers, and critics say the
bans add to the discrimination trans people face.

Debate in the scientific community about whether androgenic
hormones like testosterone serve as useful markers of athletic advantage
remains ongoing.

Even the NCAA accepts that testosterone gives trans women an advantage. Otherwise, they would not have rules on T suppression for trans women.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/04/08/sport/naia-bans-trans-athletes-dawn-staley-reaj/index.html

I don't think the NCAA will change anything off their own bat. The curious statement they released makes it sound like they want guidance from the US government, or the courts first.

ceadaoin.

Another example of CNN being an absolute joke. Its pure ideological crap and gaslighting to state there's no evidence that testosterone gives athletic advantage. If there the case then why is it considered a performance enhancing drug and it's usage banned then?

I had a quick look at the reddit thread in r/news and even the posters there agree with the decision and acknowledge the advantages trans women have.

Vote4Squirrels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121997148#Comment_121997148

Even if testosterone on its own had no effect (it very much does!) it's the physical attributes that it enhances during male puberty that won't go away.

eeepaulo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121996481#Comment_121996481

This is the report CNN quoted link

Conclusion

Currently, there is no direct or consistent research suggesting transgender female individuals (or male individuals) have an athletic advantage at any stage of their transition (e.g. cross-sex hormones, gender-confirming surgery) and, therefore, competitive sport policies that place restrictions on transgender people need to be considered and potentially revised.

The word currently is quite important in the conclusion really isnt it, especially if CNN want to quote a 7 year old review. Since then the landscape has totally transformed everywhere except the ideologues heads.

Sports ireland released the studies they used including 2 more up to date reviews.

https://www.sportireland.ie/transgenderguidance under references

sorry link wouldnt save

concerned_tenant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121997163#Comment_121997163

The advantage question disappears into thin air when you consider the following fact:

• Lia Thomas went from 554th in the men's division, but post-transition, jumped into the top 5 ranking in the women's division.
• We never ever see a biological female in 500th position in the women's division of their sport, then post-transition, jump into the top 5 ranking in the men's division.

It only ever goes one way.

That's because of the inherent and axiomatic advantage.

Debates over advantage is a red herring because we already have real-world data such as the above, not that it was needed to begin with. Not deep philosophical debates, but actual hard evidence.

Vote4Squirrels

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121999872#Comment_121999872

I was very struck by the cyclist Emily Bridges who refused to compete in an “open” category in cycling.

No they have to race against biological women cyclists only! Why ??

Cheating!! Same as Thomas and others. It’s not about rights, it’s not about competing - it’s about mediocre athletes wanting an advantage.

It’s Lance Armstrong but with ideologues supporting you.

concerned_tenant

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121999904#Comment_121999904

If Bridges refuses to compete, that's their decision.

I have no sympathy for athletes that want to secure any kind of unfair advantage.

Repackaging unfair advantage under the term "inclusion" is embarrassing.