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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    BioNTech are just incredible. The fact they had that vaccine made not even 3 months into the pandemic is insanity.


    Their website's tagline - "We aspire to individualize cancer medicine"


    I have faith in these folks. In my optimistic/slightly foolish head, they were working on an mRNA solution for cancer before this pandemic came around.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/

    Just under 11% of the Irish population have had their first or second jab.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,437 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    hynesie08 wrote: »

    Is there a reason why Monday vaccinations are always quite low (not being critical, genuinely curious)?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,236 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/

    Just under 11% of the Irish population have had their first or second jab.
    There's 500k doses administered, that's not 11% of the population. Some of the doses were used for the second round of vaccinations with Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Pete_Cavan wrote: »
    Is there a reason why Monday vaccinations are always quite low (not being critical, genuinely curious)?


    It is said that the deliveries from the drug companies arrive on Monday so that the previous weeks supplies have been exhausted.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    There's 500k doses administered, that's not 11% of the population. Some of the doses were used for the second round of vaccinations with Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech.


    Yes I was wrong I misinterpreted those figures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭trellheim


    I thank the Deputy. I will get him a detailed note on the number of corrections or revisions from AstraZeneca. Last week over a seven-day period, it revised down its deliveries at the very last minute three times. The reasons are down to production. It is not my area of expertise but we are told that the production of these compounds is very complex and things can go wrong. However, I agree with the Deputy; what is happening with AstraZeneca is not good enough. Ultimately the people it is causing anxiety for, the only people who matter in any of this, are the public. Vulnerable people are waiting and it is not good enough.

    From the Dail earlier this morning https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/2021-03-11/2/

    ( I see its front splash on rte.ie as well ) Also note that pfizer and moderna are more or less bang on, as a comparison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭JDD


    trellheim wrote: »
    From the Dail earlier this morning https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/debate/dail/2021-03-11/2/

    ( I see its front splash on rte.ie as well ) Also note that pfizer and moderna are more or less bang on, as a comparison.

    I'm sure their vaccine production is equally complex, yet they are able to deliver on time.

    AZ are a sh*tshow. We should be disregarding them entirely and trying to source additional vaccine elsewhere, even if it is someone else's stockpile of AZ. I mean the vaccine itself is fine, it's just the company who are screwing us over. I'd happy take the Sputnik or Sinopharm vaccine tomorrow if it was offered to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,678 ✭✭✭✭josip


    JDD wrote: »
    I'm sure their vaccine production is equally complex, yet they are able to deliver on time.

    AZ are a sh*tshow. We should be disregarding them entirely and trying to source additional vaccine elsewhere, even if it is someone else's stockpile of AZ. I mean the vaccine itself is fine, it's just the company who are screwing us over. I'd happy take the Sputnik or Sinopharm vaccine tomorrow if it was offered to me.


    You'd have to have some sympathy for Professor Gilbert and all the people in Oxford responsible for getting an effective vaccine out there early.
    They've been totally let down by their choice of company to productify it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,789 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    josip wrote: »
    You'd have to have some sympathy for Professor Gilbert and all the people in Oxford responsible for getting an effective vaccine out there early.
    They've been totally let down by their choice of company to productify it.

    Yeah, its nearly becoming a bad news story for Oxford at this stage - talk about grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭JDD


    josip wrote: »
    You'd have to have some sympathy for Professor Gilbert and all the people in Oxford responsible for getting an effective vaccine out there early.
    They've been totally let down by their choice of company to productify it.

    Completely. There should be serious investigations made on whether there was any negligent or reckless decisions, or promises, made by the company by their regulator when all this is done. If it looks like they overpromised when they knew there were production issues, or whether deliberate decisions were made to maximise profits that resulted in delays in production, they should lose their pharmaceutical license and perhaps there is an argument for civil cases to be taken against individual management staff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro



    Well thank god for that. With the absolute paragon of charisma that Micheál Martin is, I'm sure he'll get us right out of this mess.


    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,437 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    JDD wrote: »
    I'm sure their vaccine production is equally complex, yet they are able to deliver on time.

    I don't know enough about it really but I would have thought mRNA vaccines would be even more complex to produce given they are a new technology and presumably require new production lines, developing new processes, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,185 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    J&J one-dose has just been approved

    https://www.thejournal.ie/eu-medicines-agency-approves-johnson-johnson-one-shot-vaccine-5378150-Mar2021/

    TheJournal are all on the ball, just avoid the comments section as usual


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭Irish Stones


    VG31 wrote: »
    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/mar/11/denmark-pauses-astrazeneca-vaccines-to-investigate-blood-clot-reports

    A bit concerning to be honest. Even a bad batch rather than an issue with the vaccine itself would severely damage public confidence in it.

    A few sudden deaths have been reported in these past few days of people vaccinated with AZ a few hours earlier, in different countries. And apparently they were always due to blood clots.
    Can a bad batch have been delivered to different countries?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    J&J one-dose has just been approved

    https://www.thejournal.ie/eu-medicines-agency-approves-johnson-johnson-one-shot-vaccine-5378150-Mar2021/

    TheJournal are all on the ball, just avoid the comments section as usual

    Excellent news, excellent advice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,470 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,437 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    josip wrote: »
    You'd have to have some sympathy for Professor Gilbert and all the people in Oxford responsible for getting an effective vaccine out there early.
    They've been totally let down by their choice of company to productify it.

    AZ weren't necessarily their choice of company though

    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-rejected-contracts-and-a-hollywood-movie-how-uk-struck-deal-to-guarantee-vaccine-supply-12204044


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,470 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    A few sudden deaths have been reported in these past few days of people vaccinated with AZ a few hours earlier, in different countries. And apparently they were always due to blood clots.
    Can a bad batch have been delivered to different countries?

    The batch Austria initially reported is 1 million doses in 17 countries. EMA have cleared the batch.

    As of Tuesday, there had been 22 reports of blood clotting conditions among the three million people to receive the AstraZeneca jab in the European Economic Area. Its not outside expected numbers within the population


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,507 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    A few sudden deaths have been reported in these past few days of people vaccinated with AZ a few hours earlier, in different countries. And apparently they were always due to blood clots.
    Can a bad batch have been delivered to different countries?

    Yes, same batches have gone to multiple countries, but I'd hold off on jumping to conclusions early, and let the investigation happen calmly.


  • Posts: 5,853 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    josip wrote: »
    You'd have to have some sympathy for Professor Gilbert and all the people in Oxford responsible for getting an effective vaccine out there early.
    They've been totally let down by their choice of company to productify it.

    When they see 600,000 doses being given out in Ghana, the fact a few wealthy Europeans have to wait a bit longer to get to the pub probably isn’t a big concern.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,500 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    That Pfizer news is massive, absolutely massive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭Irish Stones


    The batch Austria initially reported is 1 million doses in 17 countries. EMA have cleared the batch.

    As of Tuesday, there had been 22 reports of blood clotting conditions among the three million people to receive the AstraZeneca jab in the European Economic Area. Its not outside expected numbers within the population
    astrofool wrote: »
    Yes, same batches have gone to multiple countries, but I'd hold off on jumping to conclusions early, and let the investigation happen calmly.

    Yes, but isn't that weird that some of those who died to blood clots had just received a dose of vaccine?
    I mean, can it be a coincidence? Some of them were young and fit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,804 ✭✭✭✭gmisk




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 676 ✭✭✭Pablo Escobar


    eoinbn wrote: »
    Can you post some official figures that aren't nonsense?

    It remains to be to be seen whether the official timeline is met, but it is seemingly at least based on some form or line-of-sight. It beats making up my own timeline.


  • Posts: 5,853 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    astrofool wrote: »
    Yes, same batches have gone to multiple countries, but I'd hold off on jumping to conclusions early, and let the investigation happen calmly.

    I’m still waiting for you to answer my question by the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    That news about Pfizer will surely reinforce the need for it to be the primary vacinne for the vulnerable cohorts of our society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,158 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    Yeah, its nearly becoming a bad news story for Oxford at this stage - talk about grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory

    To be fair, it's all relative, the Oxford vaccine has been a resounding success for the UK.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭Apogee


    hynesie08 wrote: »

    No, the bot does not correctly report the doses administered each day. 7756 administered on Monday 8th March. 8165 administered on Monday 15th February. The 7756 figure will likely be incremented in coming days.

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