When will it all end?

bucketybuck

bucketybuck wrote: »

A good example of the inane hysteria surrounding this pandemic.

We have here a woman who isn't sick but who is going to self isolate for ten days anyway, simply due to the possibility that she might have some traces of the virus. On her way home to begin that she stopped to get supplies that would allow her to do all this, and I have little doubt that when getting those supplies she wore a mask and practised safe social distancing.

And she is held up as a problem. She stopped to get food to live so she is a problem. In a shop, a setting notoriously unconnected with any outbreaks, which is a problem. She didn't immediately crawl under her bed and starve for 10 days and so she is a problem.

What a pissant little country this is.

Are you actually serious!!
She did exactly what she should not do.
She should have gone home and not to the shops.
She can and does use the internet regularly, she also has plenty of people that can shop for her.
Everyone thinks the rules don't apply to themselves, they are somehow different.
And just because she isn't sick today, does not mean she doesn't have or can spread covid.

You're all in here moaning and complaint about the government rules and gardai enforcing them. Maybe if people just actually did what they are supposed to do, we wouldn't be in this stupid lockdown

Gestureapo

bubblypop wrote: »

Who's worried?
Just explaining why numbers don't go down as quick as people want.

You're making a big deal out of nothing

hynesie08

bubblypop wrote: »

Are you actually serious!!
She did exactly what she should not do.
She should have gone home and not to the shops.
She can and does use the internet regularly, she also has plenty of people that can shop for her.
Everyone thinks the rules don't apply to themselves, they are somehow different.
And just because she isn't sick today, does not mean she doesn't have or can spread covid.

You're all in here moaning and complaint about the government rules and gardai enforcing them. Maybe if people just actually did what they are supposed to do, we wouldn't be in this stupid lockdown

You sound like a terrible friend.

gozunda

Tazz T wrote: »

How about the Telegraph then.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/02/17/travel-news-quarantine-hotels-summer-holidays-vaccine-passports/

Is that better? UK could be travelling by Easter.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-55890224

"UK could be travelling by Easter" refers to internal UK based holidays

The first article linked details the possibility of UK holidays could be back on by Easter - with a "gradual loosening of lockdown could mean (uk) holiday lets and larger hotels will be able to reopen by Easter" 

As to Boris

"Asked about tourism in the UK, he said he did not want to give "concrete" dates for such trips but would set out more details on 22 February."

Meh. I dont see opening up international travel. At best a number of media sources are trying to put a pro travel summer 2021 spin on some fairly non committal comments from the UK government.

The U.K.’s transport secretary Grant Schapps told the press that current travel restrictions might stay in place a long time. “We’ll need to wait for other countries to catch up as well, in order to do that wider international unlock,” Shapps said...

Shapps urged caution about travel plans for this year and advised people not to book holidays either within Britain or abroad. “I’m afraid I can’t give you a definitive ‘will there or will there not be’ the opportunity to take holidays,” Schapps said.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexledsom/2021/02/11/uk-travel-brits-told-maybe-no-international-trips-for-rest-of-2021/

bucketybuck

bubblypop wrote: »

Are you actually serious!!

I'm deadly serious, you are tut tutting and shaming a woman because she didn't get under the bed quickly enough. It illustrates the ridiculousness of this entire situation, a woman who isn't even sick but she is going to isolate anyway and that still isn't good enough.

Its petty crap like this that undermines the entire message.

SnuggyBear

bubblypop wrote: »

Are you actually serious!!
She did exactly what she should not do.
She should have gone home and not to the shops.
She can and does use the internet regularly, she also has plenty of people that can shop for her.
Everyone thinks the rules don't apply to themselves, they are somehow different.
And just because she isn't sick today, does not mean she doesn't have or can spread covid.

You're all in here moaning and complaint about the government rules and gardai enforcing them. Maybe if people just actually did what they are supposed to do, we wouldn't be in this stupid lockdown

You should never talk to her again. Who knows how many grannies shes killed.

Ginger n Lemon

bucketybuck wrote: »

I'm deadly serious, you are tut tutting and shaming a woman because she didn't get under the bed quickly enough. It illustrates the ridiculousness of this entire situation, a woman who isn't even sick but she is going to isolate anyway and that still isn't good enough.

Its petty crap like this that undermines the entire message.

Its so desperate that you have to ask the OP whether they reported their "friend" to Gardai

actually, no, lets not ask, we had enough hysteria for 1 day

El_Duderino 09

Why is it that the ones who most vocally want the restrictions to end, are also supportive of, or at least not opposed to, things that will cause the restrictions to go on longer?

Good examples from this thread in the last few days would be supporting people going to the supermarket while waiting for a covid test result and showing absolutely no opposition to people who are anti (covid) vaccination.

It makes me wonder if they're just trying to be edgy or contrarian.

hynesie08

hynesie08 wrote: »

You sound like a terrible friend.

Don't be ridiculous, I'm a great friend, I offered to do her shopping, anything she wants I can do it.
Not sure where you're getting the terrible friend from!

the kelt

bubblypop wrote: »

It's not against the law. You can go to your local town for an essential reason. There's no law saying you can't go 5km away from your home.
With the amount of complaining people do, you would think they would know the laws.

Ye know what you’re right, it’s mid term so I said god damn it your right.

Cmon kids we are off for the day, where are we going dad? I’m going to leave it up to you kids, heres where we can go.

Can we go to the beach, or the playgrounds, even one fo the forest parks, or down for a walk in hook head..... Ok we may very well get fined or sent back if we are further than 5k so kids it’s like this!

Well I’m working from home so can’t go to work with me obviously
And schools are closed so no to school
We are not attending a diasability day centre so can’t go there
Not in court thank god, can’t go there.
We are not caring for a family member so no can’t visit someone’s house
We are not farmers so can’t go further than 5k for travel purposes
No weddings and I know things are bad so ain’t bringing ye to a funeral

So the good news kids is we can go to a graveyard, or a chemist so I tell you what who wants to go to Tesco for the day eh?

Yeahhh oh. Ok well tesco it is.

Hey dad ye know when we go to tesco for the day do ye think maybe we could get a board game or something from our pocket money??

Sorry pet that’s a non essential item, can’t get toys or anything like that.

Oh ok, well maybe we could buy some clothes , a new t shirt, maybe some socks etc, might be nice to look around for a while.

Ehh sorry pet clothes are non essential so can’t do that.

Clothes are non essential? But we need clothes to wear, how can it be non essential? Yeah let’s not get into that pet!

Oh.

So kids load up the car, I’ll make the sandwiches, get the lead for the dog, we are heading to tesco, then boots and then the graveyard.


Yaaaaaayyyyyyy!

Hey dad is it like this in all the other countries dad? Emmmmm so wants hand sanitizer, it’s the one that doesn’t smell bad, ehhh, ehhh kids?

bucketybuck

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Its so desperate that you have to ask the OP whether they reported their "friend" to Gardai

actually, no, lets not ask, we had enough hysteria for 1 day

Its the poor starving Yemeni girl I am worried about, imagine trying to explain to her the first world problem of a healthy woman stopping at the shop before going into isolation.

bucketybuck

bucketybuck wrote: »

I'm deadly serious, you are tut tutting and shaming a woman because she didn't get under the bed quickly enough. It illustrates the ridiculousness of this entire situation, a woman who isn't even sick but she is going to isolate anyway and that still isn't good enough.

Its petty crap like this that undermines the entire message.

No.
I'm explaining to you now why we are in the situation that we are.
People can't just do what they are supposed to do in the beginning, if they did we wouldn't be in this situation

gozunda

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

You think 50+ million of people will be setting up tents in their back garden and learning a new language instead?

I dunno - do you have a tent? - Maybe just maybe like you've detailed they might all ignore the fact that travel for holiday or leisure purposes is illegal in the UK and for certain destinations risk fines of up to £10,000 and the possibility of having to quarantine?

Or maybe some could apply a little bit of imagination to doing something different rather than screaming about absolutely must have that tri annual trip to Toros del Tontos or wherever for sun sea sangria and an std?

I borrowed this lad :pac: as he looks better here ..

bucketybuck

bubblypop wrote: »

No.
I'm explaining to you now need why we are in the situation that we are.
People can't just do what they are supposed to do in the beginning, if they did we wouldn't be in this situation

Newsflash, we are not in this situation because of this sort of petty rubbish.

SnuggyBear

SnuggyBear wrote: »

You should never talk to her again. Who knows how many grannies shes killed.

Don't be so ridiculous.
I'm not claiming she is killing anyone.
If everybody observed the rules as we are supposed to, things would not be in a level 5 lockdown.
Pretty obvious by posters on here that no-one seems to observe restrictions. Not much wonder we are stuck in this crap.

Ginger n Lemon

gozunda wrote: »

I dunno - do you have a tent? - Maybe just maybe like you've detailed they might all ignore the fact that travel for holiday or leisure purposes is illegal in the UK and for certain destinations risk fines of up to £10,000 and the possibility of having to quarantine?

Or maybe some could apply a little bit of imagination to doing something different rather than screaming about absolutely must have that tri annual trip to Toros del Tontos or wherever for sun sea sangria and an std?

I borrowed this lad :pac: as he looks better here ..

I dont think you understand that 2020 wasnt exactly great travel year. Now you are saying (or hoping?) 2021 wont be either.

ah sshure. its just 2 years of sitting at home. lets apply a bit of imagination :D:D

Ginger n Lemon

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Its so desperate that you have to ask the OP whether they reported their "friend" to Gardai

actually, no, lets not ask, we had enough hysteria for 1 day

Not much need to report her to gardai, they already know.

Ginger n Lemon

bubblypop wrote: »

Not much need to report her to gardai, they already know.

And how do they know?



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Ginger n Lemon

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

And how do they know?



(0_0)

Use your investigation skills on that

josip

gozunda wrote: »

...
I reckon the UK will not going be going on a holiday fest this year. Much the same as as ourselves and one reason why we are aligning travel restrictions in the CTA with the UK.

There's also the problem that travellers from the UK have been banned by a number of EU countries due to the risk of spreading one of the new strains. Thats still going to be a potential problem going forward even with vaccination imo.

You've got to try to imagine a little bit into the future gozunda.
It won't be like the present.
That will mean taking a bit of time to think things throughand getting away from the media sensationalism of the here and now and worst case scenarios. By the summer:

• Most of the UK population will be vaccinated.
• European destinations will be desperate for any tourist revenue they can get.
• The UK will want to maximise their PR win of having their Brexited citizens vaccinated before the EU and will be doing their best to send them as envoys all around the EU.

gozunda

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

I dont think you understand that 2020 wasnt exactly great travel year. Now you are saying (or hoping?) 2021 wont be either.

ah sshure. its just 2 years of sitting at home. lets apply a bit of imagination ...

Oh but I do understand! And don't think your 'hope' has nothing to do with it. But yes there's a global pandemic in case you missed that and feking loads of countries have restrictions on travel for holiday or leisure purposes.

But sure let's all imagine we can fek off wherever and whenever we want 'cos someone on boards says so.

(borrowed those lads again - thanks )

gozunda

josip wrote: »

You've got to try to imagine a little bit into the future gozunda.
It won't be like the present.
That will mean taking a bit of time to think things throughand getting away from the media sensationalism of the here and now and worst case scenarios. By the summer:

• Most of the UK population will be vaccinated.
• European destinations will be desperate for any tourist revenue they can get.
• The UK will want to maximise their PR win of having their Brexited citizens vaccinated before the EU and will be doing their best to send them as envoys all around the EU.

Haha you lads are gas. Yeah we're talking about the UK and summer 2021!

Just in case you missed it - detail from the U.K.’s transport secretary Grant Shapps and I quote

Shapps said no one should be booking holidays right now “not domestically or internationally”, and that prime minister had said it was “just too early” to know anything about what the situation would be like in the coming months.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexledsom/2021/02/11/uk-travel-brits-told-maybe-no-international-trips-for-rest-of-2021/

After that I really can't help ye

El_Duderino 09

gozunda wrote: »

Haha you lads are gas. Yeah we're talking about the UK and summer 2021!

Just in case you missed it - detail from the U.K.’s transport secretary Grant Shapps and I quote



https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexledsom/2021/02/11/uk-travel-brits-told-maybe-no-international-trips-for-rest-of-2021/

After that I really can't help ye

It's amazing to see how people read things the way they want them to be. Here you have the UK transport Secretary saying that they aren't guaranteeing travel because it's too early to say one way or the other for both domestic and foreign travel, and posters read that as saying there will be domestic and foreign travel. And yesterday I had someone tell me that Leo saying the IF things go well we MIGHT have full stadiums and MAYBE even festivals. And they interpreted that as some kind of guarantee that we will have full stadiums, festivals and the end of masks and social distancing.

Sometimes the only thing to do is acknowledge that we don't have enough information to know what's most likely to happen one way or the other. And the only sensible thing we an do is wait and see what happens and make decisions when we have more reliable information.

Ginger n Lemon

josip wrote: »

You've got to try to imagine a little bit into the future gozunda.
It won't be like the present.
That will mean taking a bit of time to think things throughand getting away from the media sensationalism of the here and now and worst case scenarios. By the summer:

• Most of the UK population will be vaccinated.
• European destinations will be desperate for any tourist revenue they can get.
• The UK will want to maximise their PR win of having their Brexited citizens vaccinated before the EU and will be doing their best to send them as envoys all around the EU.

OP is in lockdown afterall. So are we all. Not easy to imagine anything different than the usual cutting your own hair, cooking food or eating takeaway for months on end. and ofcourse walks within 5km!

El_Duderino 09

Two pieces of good news reports vaccine supply.
“ Tánaiste Leo Varadkar has said the Government is expecting to receive at least one million Covid-19 vaccine doses per month in April, May and June.

This would represent a tripling in the pace of vaccination during the second quarter of the year compared to the first three months”

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0218/1197824-coronavirus-ireland/

And I presume that is as a result of this news about the EU doubling its supply of moderna vaccine. This article doesn’t give any dates so I presume the article above is filling in that detail.

“ The European Commission has said it had struck a deal for an extra 150 million doses of Moderna's Covid-19 vaccine this year, nearly doubling the number of shots secured from the US biotech firm for 2021”

https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2021/0217/1197660-eu-vaccine-latest/

The HorsesMouth

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Two pieces of good news reports vaccine supply.
“ Tánaiste Leo Varadkar has said the Government is expecting to receive at least one million Covid-19 vaccine doses per month in April, May and June.

This would represent a tripling in the pace of vaccination during the second quarter of the year compared to the first three months”

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0218/1197824-coronavirus-ireland/

And I presume that is as a result of this news about the EU doubling its supply of moderna vaccine. This article doesn’t give any dates so I presume the article above is filling in that detail.

“ The European Commission has said it had struck a deal for an extra 150 million doses of Moderna's Covid-19 vaccine this year, nearly doubling the number of shots secured from the US biotech firm for 2021”

https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2021/0217/1197660-eu-vaccine-latest/

Were we not meant to receive that amount anyways before the new moderna deal?

El_Duderino 09

The HorsesMouth wrote: »

Were we not meant to receive that amount anyways before the new moderna deal?

I don’t know. It looks like they’ve secured it now anyway.

Ginger n Lemon

Any idea when is M Martin announcement on lockdown lifting or extension?

This feels like the longest lockdown yet.

Ginger n Lemon

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Any idea when is M Martin announcement on lockdown lifting or extension?

This feels like the longest lockdown yet.

Think it’s Tuesday

No it’s Monday 22nd.