When will it all end?

Irish_peppa

Why does the Daily mail have a Lock Down counter saying

"LOCKDOWN: DAY 332"

The uk has not been in lockdown for the last year???? Has it not been more or less doing lockdowns like us every few months?

Gestureapo

Irish_peppa wrote: »

Why does the Daily mail have a Lock Down counter saying

"LOCKDOWN: DAY 332"

The uk has not been in lockdown for the last year???? Has it not been more or less doing lockdowns like us every few months?

Do you have to ask that question?

Irish_peppa

Gestureapo wrote: »

Do you have to ask that question?

I didnt realise they had been in a constant tier 5 level lockdown since March 2020 I thought they were on Lockdown 3 like us in Ireland

Gestureapo

Irish_peppa wrote: »

I didnt realise they had been in a constant tier 5 level lockdown since March 2020 I thought they were on Lockdown 3 like us in Ireland

It's the daily mail

mcsean2163

Irish_peppa wrote: »

I didnt realise they had been in a constant tier 5 level lockdown since March 2020 I thought they were on Lockdown 3 like us in Ireland

I think the clue is in the omission of the lockdown restriction level.

El_Duderino 09

mcsean2163 wrote: »

I think the clue is in the omission of the lockdown restriction level.

Yeah that’s the DM schtick. Whip up anger about something or other without much regard for the facts or the nuances of the situation. And you can see how predisposed some people are it anger. If you tell those people they’re right and don’t give much detail, they can easily ye whipped up to support or oppose whatever you want.

mcsean2163

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Yeah that’s the DM schtick. Whip up anger about something or other without much regard for the facts or the nuances of the situation. And you can see how predisposed some people are it anger. If you tell those people they’re right and don’t give much detail, they can easily ye whipped up to support or oppose whatever you want.

It's just s controversial headline and l expect to musicians etc. it's not wide of the mark.

Ginger n Lemon

mcsean2163 wrote: »

It's just s controversial headline and l expect to musicians etc. it's not wide of the mark.

In fairness alcohol only pubs in Dublin, nightclubs, concerts, fans in stadiums, 332 days lockdown sounds about right.

Unfortunately

Gestureapo

Dunno is the daily mail comments section representative

People seem to be going nuts over there against restrictions

Klonker

gansi wrote: »

No it’s Monday 22nd.

Anyone want to bet that'll it'll be pushed out to next Thursday or Friday instead?

Penfailed

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

In fairness alcohol only pubs in Dublin, nightclubs, concerts, fans in stadiums, 332 days lockdown sounds about right.

Unfortunately

No it doesn't. Lockdown indicates a restriction of movement within a country not the closure of some venues.

Allinall

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

It'll be pushed back to the 31st of February.

Yep.

I also saw on WhatsApp that they have saved up 9,367 cases to announce on the day as well.

No haircuts until 2022 at the earliest.

Ginger n Lemon

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Dublin is not in the UK.

And yet the same lockdown :pac:

I agree with you, as the youngest population in EU we should have constructed our lockdown differently, much differently.

Lundstram

Monday felt like a very positive day with the great vaccine data news from the UK and Israel, weather improved a lot and the news of J&J’s one shot dose looking for approval in the EU.

You have to hand to our government, media and the various ‘experts’, they really know how to dampen any semblance of promise and spread their fear and misery without question. Donnelly himself is now hand picking who is allowed into press conferences. Can’t have any rogue reporter asking questions people want answered.

Other nations talk about opening up, we have our lot looking for reasons not to.

What a depressing a sh1tshow.

CalamariFritti

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

I ll never forget Irish govt paying part time workers 350 euro PUP March 2020 > June 2020, when those very same part time workers earned more like 150 euros pre covid.

What a bunch of idiots. And these people make decisions that direct our future....

My partner works in the public service and its often not as simple as it seems.
These moneys had to go out fast and means testing of any sort takes time and structures. It also is often more expensive than just handing out a bit too much.

Gestureapo

CalamariFritti wrote: »

My partner works in the public service and its often not as simple as it seems.
These moneys had to go out fast and means testing of any sort takes time and structures. It also is often more expensive than just handing out a bit too much.

Would y need means testing, wouldn't payslips do

The extra money has been a disaster for many in terms of idleness and drug/alcohol misuse

Ginger n Lemon

CalamariFritti wrote: »

My partner works in the public service and its often not as simple as it seems.
These moneys had to go out fast and means testing of any sort takes time and structures. It also is often more expensive than just handing out a bit too much.

But surely social welfare has some sort of link to Revenue where its extremely easy to determine if individual has a part time job or a full time job.

If they had a full time job give them 350 euros per week.

if they had a part time job give them 200 - 250 euros per week.

No need to go into means testing or any of that... just common sense. Like people who worked 10 hours a week were getting 350 eurs PUP for 3 months. People who worked 40 hours a week were also getting 350 euros PUP. Lol

El_Duderino 09

Lundstram wrote: »

Monday felt like a very positive day with the great vaccine data news from the UK and Israel, weather improved a lot and the news of J&J’s one shot dose looking for approval in the EU.

You have to hand to our government, media and the various ‘experts’, they really know how to dampen any semblance of promise and spread their fear and misery without question. Donnelly himself is now hand picking who is allowed into press conferences. Can’t have any rogue reporter asking questions people want answered.

Other nations talk about opening up, we have our lot looking for reasons not to.

What a depressing a sh1tshow.

What has the bad news been? I think the only changes to the news I've see this week has been good news.

Multipass

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

But surely social welfare has some sort of link to Revenue where its extremely easy to determine if individual has a part time job or a full time job.

If they had a full time job give them 350 euros per week.

if they had a part time job give them 200 - 250 euros per week.

No need to go into means testing or any of that... just common sense. Like people who worked 10 hours a week were getting 350 eurs PUP for 3 months. People who worked 40 hours a week were also getting 350 euros PUP. Lol

And if they had a full time job which went just before covid let them eat cake on 203 euros. Even unemployment only matters now if it’s covid related. 350 a week would be an amazing way to live from where I am, a bloody fortune.

opinionated3

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

What has the bad news been? I think the only changes to the news I've see this week has been good news.

Maybe the insinuation that 2021 is doing to be pretty much a write off for any holidays, socialising etc.....

plodder

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

But surely social welfare has some sort of link to Revenue where its extremely easy to determine if individual has a part time job or a full time job.

If they had a full time job give them 350 euros per week.

if they had a part time job give them 200 - 250 euros per week.

No need to go into means testing or any of that... just common sense. Like people who worked 10 hours a week were getting 350 eurs PUP for 3 months. People who worked 40 hours a week were also getting 350 euros PUP. Lol

Revenue certainly has the data. Anyone on PUP who did (or is doing) a tax return for 2020 will see the PUP payments already there on their account.

Gestureapo

It's not just the drug and alcohol crisis in play now

Lockdown has people switching to takeaway food in droves, have you seen the weight of people out there

El_Duderino 09

Gestureapo wrote: »

Would y need means testing, wouldn't payslips do

The extra money has been a disaster for many in terms of idleness and drug/alcohol misuse

Think of the time taken to recruit new staff, create a new system and train the staff. These things can't be created in a few weeks. The options were to give the money out quickly and accept the fraud and error, or wait months to set up a more reliable system.

People needed the money. They probably did the right thing.

Gestureapo

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Think of the time taken to recruit new staff, create a new system and train the staff. These things can't be created in a few weeks. The options were to give the money out quickly and accept the fraud and error, or wait months to set up a more reliable system.

People needed the money. They probably did the right thing.

Is payslips that complicated to check?

Ginger n Lemon

Gestureapo wrote: »

It's not just the drug and alcohol crisis in play now

Lockdown has people switching to takeaway food in droves, have you seen the weight of people out there

I can attest to this.

Put on 10 kg since March 2020. Dominos, lack of movement main drivers.

And ofcourse cheap alcohol.

If only I could setup a tent in my back garden and learn a new language... all my troubles would go away :pac:

Dickie10

off licences need to be shut asap, before Easter especially. madness having pubs shut and still people can fuel up on durt cheap alcohol. need to ban sale of drink outright to stop house parties

Gestureapo

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

I can attest to this.

Put on 10 kg since March 2020. Dominos, lack of movement main drivers.

And ofcourse cheap alcohol.

If only I could setup a tent in my back garden and learn a new language... all my troubles would go away :pac:

Takeaways is literally the only show in town some places

People are using them as a social outlet, bringing kids to drive thrus because they've nothing else to do

Not sure are all posters here up to speed on what's going on with young people on PUP?

It's a disaster with drink and drugs

Gestureapo

Dickie10 wrote: »

off licences need to be shut asap, before Easter especially. madness having pubs shut and still people can fuel up on durt cheap alcohol. need to ban sale of drink outright to stop house parties

I'm sure you mean well but you haven't thought this through

Mimon

Dickie10 wrote: »

off licences need to be shut asap, before Easter especially. madness having pubs shut and still people can fuel up on durt cheap alcohol. need to ban sale of drink outright to stop house parties

Minority of people don't play ball and you want the rest of us to suffer.

I actually take offence at this suggestion as I have to work during a pandemic and you want to deny me my bottle of wine on a Friday evening.

Irish_peppa

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

But surely social welfare has some sort of link to Revenue where its extremely easy to determine if individual has a part time job or a full time job.

I would be shocked if they didnt ! I was in an intreo meeting while on social welfare and the lady was able to tell me the names of all the tenants I had ever had going back years. Those people were not on welfare so I assume they have some way of getting peoples PPS numbers from revenue. If they dont im sure they have revenue on speed dial like any normal company and can do quick checks on individuals and request more detailed information if need be