Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VI - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

average_runner

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

So essentially as the WHO said we only caught 10% of cases in Spring and Covid 19 is essentially a cold.

Imagine destroying this country for something less dangerous than the flu

WHO has changed their stance so much, they cause the whole mess

funnydoggy

thebaz wrote: »

Yestreday RTE - yes RTE - were headlining with a story that the second wave was 90% less fatal than the first wave according to our Minister of Health Stephen Donnelly :-

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1119/1179261-daily-virus-figures/

Of course today and later last night the story got buried by the non stop NPHET Fear propangda about how we are in all danger / we are not doing ennegh etc etc -

What the **** is going on - am I going crazy but why is this story not been broadcast as the many story today -

Why can the media not focus on some positivity instaed of non stop misery , and the authorities contintuing to treat the public like bold stupid children.

FFS look how far down it's gone!!!

That's a good few scrolls down. Not something many people would see as they read above the fold.

showpony1

Did someone ask Santa/Tony if there's a chance he will let us save Christmas yet today?

thebaz

thebaz wrote: »

Yestreday RTE - yes RTE - were headlining with a story that the second wave was 90% less fatal than the first wave according to our Minister of Health Stephen Donnelly :-

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1119/1179261-daily-virus-figures/

Of course today and later last night the story got buried by the non stop NPHET Fear propangda about how we are in all danger / we are not doing ennegh etc etc -

What the **** is going on - am I going crazy but why is this story not been broadcast as the main story today -

Why can the media not focus on some positivity instaed of non stop misery , and the authorities contintuing to treat the public like bold stupid children.

They're nearly as bad as the North Korea propaganda wing with their filtering out of positive news stories to keep us in a state of apprehension, disgusting.

funnydoggy

showpony1 wrote: »

Did someone ask Santa/Tony if there's a chance he will let us save Christmas yet today?

You'd have a better chance of buying a Turbo-Man on Christmas Eve :pac:

AssetBacked2

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-progress-stalls-and-r-number-rises-as-nphet-warns-a-lot-depends-on-the-next-few-days-1.4413946

The next few days are crucial.

To me it is very clear why "the next few days are crucial" is the tone of this article and that is because, regardless of whether cases drop or rise from now until next week from what they are now, things are reopening in December.

Telling the media to run with this story is a last ditch attempt at getting the simple people to buy into the whole "save Christmas" narrative and hope to get another drop in the current cases so as to have as low a base as possible with the inevitable reopening in 2 weeks. It would be acceptable if it wasn't so ignorant to where the problems lie (health staff not being careful enough and schools) and if it actually was clear in what exactly it is asking people to do (we are, after all adhering to level 5 which is the maximum level).

But of course, there is still no acknowledgement of our 5 level plan which is supposed to allow us to "live with covid" and get buy in from the public on restrictions when they actually are told why we are doing the things we are doing. Though, the fact TH is obsessed with making this black and white, running with hunches rather than the data, supported by HSE HR staff making up the "NPHET" is tragically the reason for a stubborn inability to "live with covid". Rather they prefer to lockdown until a vaccine is available (because the State budget has never been a concern of theirs).

fin12

thebaz wrote: »

Yestreday RTE - yes RTE - were headlining with a story that the second wave was 90% less fatal than the first wave according to our Minister of Health Stephen Donnelly :-

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1119/1179261-daily-virus-figures/

Of course today and later last night the story got buried by the non stop NPHET Fear propangda about how we are in all danger / we are not doing ennegh etc etc -

What the **** is going on - am I going crazy but why is this story not been broadcast as the main story today -

Why can the media not focus on some positivity instaed of non stop misery , and the authorities contintuing to treat the public like bold stupid children.

Because Tony Holi un loves the misery. He’s a very sick individual.

fin12

He said he wants the cases under a 100 a day, that is not going to happen while schools are open.

dalyboy

fin12 wrote: »

He said he wants the cases under a 100 a day, that is not going to happen while schools are open.

Under a 100 cases won’t happen until May or June as this is an endemic seasonal virus. We are in respiratory infections season atm however it’s easier for NPHET to scapegoat with a blame game strategy.

Last thing they’ll do is admit they fcuked up by not relaxing restrictions in the summer period when we were at 3-5 cases a day.
It’s a further example that NPHET are unfit for purpose

Ginger n Lemon

dalyboy wrote: »

Under a 100 cases won’t happen until May or June as this is an endemic seasonal virus. We are in respiratory infections season atm however it’s easier for NPHET to scapegoat with a blame game strategy.

Last thing they’ll do is admit they fcuked up by not relaxing restrictions in the summer period when we were at 3-5 cases a day.
It’s a further example that NPHET are unfit for purpose

I remember that waste of space Ro Ro coming out on 10th of July and 11th of July when cases went from 6 to 17 and then back to 4 on daily basis, and was like "the increase was concerning"

Idiots

brisan

fin12 wrote: »

He said he wants the cases under a 100 a day, that is not going to happen while schools are open.

Or Hospitals or Nursing homes

retro:electro

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-progress-stalls-and-r-number-rises-as-nphet-warns-a-lot-depends-on-the-next-few-days-1.4413946

The next few days are crucial.

He has been saying this since March. Ask my arse Tony. If they’re so crucial then do something to sort out your kip of a hospital system instead of dictating what we can and can’t do eight months down the line from when you first started telling us “the next few days are crucial”.
I feel like I’m in some kind of twisted black mirror dystopian when I hear that sentence, it’s like torture to my ears.

showpony1

retro:electro wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-progress-stalls-and-r-number-rises-as-nphet-warns-a-lot-depends-on-the-next-few-days-1.4413946



He has been saying this since March. Ask my arse Tony. If they’re so crucial then do something to sort out your kip of a hospital system instead of dictating what we can and can’t do eight months down the line from when you first started telling us “the next few days are crucial”.
I feel like I’m in some kind of twisted black mirror dystopian when I hear that sentence, it’s like torture to my ears.

if he thought it was crucial back when we'd barely any cases while wearing no masks in April, should he not have totally lost his mind by now when there was 1000s a few weeks back. Instead of delivering pretty much the same message every day.

bush

fin12 wrote: »

He said he wants the cases under a 100 a day, that is not going to happen while schools are open.

It is possible if we galvanise our efforts, whatever that means.

Galwayguy35

The sad reality is a lot of the small family run businesses and pubs will probably never come back from this even if the whole country reopened as normal today which isn't going to happen.

But we won't hear about any of that on RTE and VM1, instead George Lee and Zara King will be wheeled out to sing from Tonys hymn sheet.

dalyboy

bush wrote: »

It is possible if we galvanise our efforts, whatever that means.

We should galvanise our efforts alright. To get rid of this abomination and societal scourge that’s blighted every citizen of Ireland. It’s name is ......NPHET

RobitTV

We all need to galvanise our efforts and tell Tony Holohan to F*** off with immediate effect.

RobitTV

RTÉ stars apologise for social distancing breaches at 'impromptu' gathering in Montrose - Link

RTÉ AND SOME of its top stars have apologised after being present at a gathering in Montrose where social distancing was not fully observed and presenters posed for photographs.

These 'stars' are the same doom mongers who have been lecturing the Irish public since March, and now they are going against social distancing guidelines, but on the radio or tv they will lecture the public endlessly!

One rule for the rest of us and another for the wealthy 'stars' at taxpayer funded RTE.

Another very good reason to switch off this endless rubbish.

facehugger99

During the Influenza season of 2017/2018 there were over 4,700 people hospitalized with flu. This peaked in Jan 2018 with almost 600 people in hospital.

Does anyone remember the clamor to shut the country down? To stop people traveling and visiting people, to close down viable business and put hundreds of thousands of people out of work?

What would have been the reaction if Dr Tony appeared on the airwaves and warned people that all the pubs and restaurants had to close because our hospitals were overstretched? Would we have perhaps questioned the logic of destroying the economy and asked instead why the health service, that costs us 10's of billions ever year, is in such a poor state?



Fast forward to October 21st 2020 when it was decided to reenter a Level 5 lockdown. The number of people in hospital with Covid? - 314

We are not in a rational world anymore. The response to this is being driven by hysteria and dogma rather than any science or facts.

The politicians are responding to social media photographs and ducking out of their responsibility to govern.

The media are too busy pumping out fear to generate clicks to hold anyone to account.

We have destroyed the economy and hundreds of thousands of jobs in an extreme over-reaction to a disease whose most common symptoms include feeling 'absolutely grand'.


This will be looked back on in years to come as a moment of mass hysteria. Some people will be rightly embarrassed by their behavior during this so-called crisis. Of course it will be way too late by that stage to change things. It's depressing to see this happen to my country.

fin12

bush wrote: »

It is possible if we galvanise our efforts, whatever that means.

Everyone become a hermit lol

RobitTV

Great comment on the article: "It’s a pity George Lee wasn’t there. Would have been the icing on the cake!"

BeefeaterHat

RobitTV wrote: »

Great comment on the article: "It’s a pity George Lee wasn’t there. Would have been the icing on the cake!"

Let's be honest would you invite George Lee to any sort of a celebration? The room temperature would drop 4 degrees with him present

Penfailed

TRANQUILLO wrote: »

THIS VIRUS IS NASTY AND EXTREMELY DEADLY......so deadly that you have to get a test to see if you actually had it at all and were unaware.

There's echo chambers...and there's just echoes. I don't know how many times I've seen that phrase ^^^ used. It's still not remotely funny, or even thought provoking. It's misleading. Yes, some people (asymptomatic) don't realise. For others, it's worse than that.

bush

fin12 wrote: »

Everyone become a hermit lol

Everyone build a little galvanise booth for themselves and stay in it

Cork2021

We’ll be allowed out for one day over Christmas....

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40086092.html?fbclid=IwAR0V8Wk2G4s2WWr7rAM8h-MMvAVF67vjZHOyu8U3ltdNXNgXNz5VLKcpkqM

Cork2021

Cork2021 wrote: »

We’ll be allowed out for one day over Christmas....

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40086092.html?fbclid=IwAR0V8Wk2G4s2WWr7rAM8h-MMvAVF67vjZHOyu8U3ltdNXNgXNz5VLKcpkqM

Government warn against a "free for all" yet encourage a veritable stampede by limiting movement to only 24 hours. Slow hand clap :rolleyes:

retro:electro

Cork2021 wrote: »

We’ll be allowed out for one day over Christmas....

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40086092.html?fbclid=IwAR0V8Wk2G4s2WWr7rAM8h-MMvAVF67vjZHOyu8U3ltdNXNgXNz5VLKcpkqM

I will be visiting family for as many days as I please. Who will actually listen to this crap?

Thierry12

Cork2021 wrote: »

We’ll be allowed out for one day over Christmas....

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40086092.html?fbclid=IwAR0V8Wk2G4s2WWr7rAM8h-MMvAVF67vjZHOyu8U3ltdNXNgXNz5VLKcpkqM

That's not bad

Can't even walk your dog in Oz right now :-P

zf0wqv9oemuasj

I must say that I am surprised that the vile comments being posted in this thread toward Dr. Holohan, NPHET and the government and so on are allowed by the board. It is a strange corner of the internet that opinions do not tally with reality where the majority of folks have the utmost respect for Dr Holohan and all those trying to keep us safe at this time.

facehugger99

Deleted User wrote: »

Government warn against a "free for all" yet encourage a veritable stampede by limiting movement to only 24 hours. Slow hand clap :rolleyes:

The really mad thing is, there are people in the main Covid thread wondering when they'll be told what they can and can't do for Christmas.

They are like infants that want Mammy Tony to handhold them every step of the way as they navigate through Christmas. They seem incapable of actually thinking or doing something off their own bat.

It's concerning how many fully grown adults are prepared to outsource their decision making capabilities to an unelected bureaucrat, who has presided over a litany of failures, that in any other country, would see him sacked in disgrace.

That it seems, is the world we now live in.