To Mask or not to two - Mask Megathread cont.

xhomelezz

RocketRaccoon

NovemberWren wrote: »

I felt actual fear when I saw (there were no barriers) a line of people to go into Penneys.

It looked like the jaws of Auschwitz and people unknowingly, and masked, compliant in the cull regulations.

I assume you get involved yourself when you need something in a shop.

fun loving criminal

paw patrol wrote: »

i won't..



what has a n95 mask to do with a pandemic?
a pandemic is just an illness spread over a wide area.
do you mean a specific pandemic? like covid that is repository in nature?
remember Feb2020 we were being sold the "this is a plague story", i gotta say I thought it would be at least half a plague. It turned out it wasn't.

why sell them or give them away? there may be more pandemics or s chemical attack or something...I may need them for something else just not covid19.

I find it odd you'd be upset I'd have a stash of masks.
Many people have stuff I don't have but i'm not bothered.

if it comes down to a real disaster , it'll be everybody for themselves , you gotta make your own luck. Can be relying on others esp state services.
In this case , a minor example being having a stash of N95 masks.

i think we've flogged this too long.
so i do genuinely wish you the best.

You lack empathy. There's 20% community transmission, wear your mask.

As for future pandemics, you'll probably sit around thinking it's not serious, hopefully it will get you, what good is your stash of unused masks then?

NovemberWren

fun loving criminal wrote: »

You lack empathy. There's 20% community transmission, wear your mask.

As for future pandemics, you'll probably sit around thinking it's not serious, hopefully it will get you, what good is your stash of unused masks then?

Ditch the mask. And the sooner the better. On i'net I saw Trump saying about they are bringing industry 'back to the U.S. itself'. That may mean far less jobs here in the next two or three years. The sooner this country comes to the terms that the U.S. will be 'looking after it's own housekeeping', the better.

(btw - Penneys, one of the best things in this country. It was started in Nthn.Ireland? some very excellent business family. The Irish have the good sense of business).

paw patrol

Seanergy wrote: »

This is a COVID-19 thread, mask sub thread, maybe you are in the wrong place?

Better luck spelling respiratory the next time.

Have you been wearing your mask on your arse?

is that your best dig?
I didn't spell a word correctly , on an internet discussion forum.
try harder.

fun loving criminal wrote: »

You lack empathy. There's 20% community transmission, wear your mask.

interesting accusation.

fun loving criminal wrote: »

As for future pandemics, you'll probably sit around thinking it's not serious, hopefully it will get you, what good is your stash of unused masks then?

hopefully? i assume it is to teach me a lesson in "empathy" :pac:
how bad a do you want "it to get" me? death or just a serious dose?
you accuse me of lacking empathy but wish me to get sick (maybe die?) . kettle, pot and all that.

Seanergy

paw patrol wrote: »

It was pretty clear when it came to Europe something was amiss with Covid19's PR.

Again, we aren't talking about my stash that's an irrelevant point.

Hoarding N95s during a respiratory pandemic becuase you personally didn't deem it to be a true disaster is a very relevant talking point.

You could have helped by sharing the masks from FEB2020, but you choose not to, so instead one can argue you helped extend this disaster.

I wonder how many other anti masksers sat on stashes of N95s because they deemed the pandemic to be not serious enough to use them?

Seanergy

Australia leading the way, new guidance released today.

bucketybuck

Seanergy wrote: »

Hoarding N95s during a respiratory pandemic becuase you personally didn't deem it to be a true disaster is a very relevant talking point.

You could have helped by sharing the masks from FEB2020, but you choose not to, so instead one can argue you helped extend this disaster.

I wonder how many other anti masksers sat on stashes of N95s because they deemed the pandemic to be not serious enough to use them?

Feb 2020, wasn't this when the CMO was advising people not to use masks?

Your outrage is hilarious by the way, nobody gives a **** about some lad with a box of masks 16 months ago.

Seanergy

bucketybuck wrote: »

Feb 2020, wasn't this when the CMO was advising people not to use masks?

Your outrage is hilarious by the way, nobody gives a **** about some lad with a box of masks 16 months ago.

Clearly not everybody is nobody and how I feel is not a laughing matter.

Hoarding N95 masks for something more serious than COVID-19 in Feb 2020 is no laughing matter.

fun loving criminal

Seanergy wrote: »

Australia leading the way, new guidance released today.

We copied how to prepare for a flu pandemic from the Aussies. We'll be well prepared for the next pandemic if they're leading the way again.

odyssey06

bucketybuck wrote: »

Feb 2020, wasn't this when the CMO was advising people not to use masks?

Yes, and driving that advice was that the most effective masks such as the ones hoarded here were desperately needed to protect frontline healthcare workers as PPE.

Seanergy

fun loving criminal wrote: »

We copied how to prepare for a flu pandemic from the Aussies. We'll be well prepared for the next pandemic if they're leading the way again.

We didn't even have enough bed sheets FFS. The copying that was done by the PIEG was just Micheál Martin publicity. If anything the interfering the PIEG and the newly formed HSE did to the original Australian pandemic playbook that we copied from(1999) was they downplayed masks from N95s and surgical to surgical and tissues.

We will be well prepared alright, just substitute the word N95 for tissues.

paw patrol

bucketybuck wrote: »

Feb 2020, wasn't this when the CMO was advising people not to use masks?

Your outrage is hilarious by the way, nobody gives a **** about some lad with a box of masks 16 months ago.

Covid has brought out some loons to the fore :pac:

paw patrol

bucketybuck wrote: »

Feb 2020, wasn't this when the CMO was advising people not to use masks?

Your outrage is hilarious by the way, nobody gives a **** about some lad with a box of masks 16 months ago.

in reflection i think it raises a serious point
covid has brought to the fore an attitude among many in Ireland of distain (maybe even almost hatred) of people who can manage on their own and make their own decisions without the state sanctioned guidelines on how to act.

I don't believe he is angry that I had masks it's just his envy that I looked after myself and went on a solo run while he sat in the herd awaiting commands from RTE

xhomelezz

Yup, loons who say masks don't work etc.

paw patrol

xhomelezz wrote: »

Yup, loons who say masks don't work etc.

I was talking about other people not the grouping you mentioned
but thanks for your contribution all same.

bucketybuck

xhomelezz wrote: »

Yup, loons who say masks don't work etc.

I think masks do the job they are designed to do.

I also think that mask wearing has had a negligible effect on the spread of covid 19 in Ireland, such that if they had not been made mandatory we would basically have the same number of cases and deaths that we have today.

Does that make me a loon? For thinking that the time and resources spent on masks would have been better directed elsewhere? So be it.

oisinog

bucketybuck wrote: »

I think masks do the job they are designed to do.

I also think that mask wearing has had a negligible effect on the spread of covid 19 in Ireland, such that if they had not been made mandatory we would basically have the same number of cases and deaths that we have today.

Does that make me a loon? For thinking that the time and resources spent on masks would have been better directed elsewhere? So be it.

If that was the case why would Doctors and nurses wear them

bucketybuck

oisinog wrote: »

If that was the case why would Doctors and nurses wear them

To be clear, I am talking about the so called "face coverings" that were made mandatory in Ireland, not industry grade masks in specialist settings.

oisinog

bucketybuck wrote: »

To be clear, I am talking about the so called "face coverings" that were made mandatory in Ireland, not industry grade masks in specialist settings.

Up to 80% reduction in the tranmission rate, sure they are not helping

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/masking-science-sars-cov2.html

Sconsey

paw patrol wrote: »

in reflection i think it raises a serious point
covid has brought to the fore an attitude among many in Ireland of distain (maybe even almost hatred) of people who can manage on their own and make their own decisions without the state sanctioned guidelines on how to act.

I don't believe he is angry that I had masks it's just his envy that I looked after myself and went on a solo run while he sat in the herd awaiting commands from RTE

Mé Féin....make the decisions that suit you, balls to the wider community. The distain you spek of comes from the pure selfishness and ignorance from the minority that know better than the experts, and don't need to follow the guidelines.

Wibbs

Sconsey wrote: »

Mé Féin....make the decisions that suit you, balls to the wider community. The distain you spek of comes from the pure selfishness and ignorance from the minority that know better than the experts, and don't need to follow the guidelines.

To be fair our same experts came out with some howlers during this crisis, suggesting it was grand to visit elderly rellies in homes, including stating masks were of no value, couched in wildly contradictory terms in interviews, pronouncements and on the HSE website. One was rabbiting on about surfaces and washing hands like there was OCD involved, while poo pooing masks, even after they were mandated and stated that people were not infectious before symptoms showed(and got the symptoms wrong), over a month after august medical journals stated the opposite. If we were to have listened to the experts at times we'd have not bothered with masks until well into this crisis.

Seanergy

paw patrol wrote: »

I don't believe he is angry that I had masks it's just his envy that I looked after myself and went on a solo run while he sat in the herd awaiting commands from RTE

Envious of you hoarding stolen? N95s from those in need, far from it as for the rest of your comment it belongs in CP.

You failed to look after yourself by failing to look after others by hoarding N95 masks with no intention of using them during COVID-19, own it.

xhomelezz

paw patrol wrote: »

I was talking about other people not the grouping you mentioned
but thanks for your contribution all same.

It's easy to respond to your posts tbh.

xhomelezz

bucketybuck wrote: »

I think masks do the job they are designed to do.

I also think that mask wearing has had a negligible effect on the spread of covid 19 in Ireland, such that if they had not been made mandatory we would basically have the same number of cases and deaths that we have today.

Does that make me a loon? For thinking that the time and resources spent on masks would have been better directed elsewhere? So be it.

What time and resources was spent on negligible effect of mask wearing in Ireland?

Did I call you a loon? Nope.

Fandymo

moonage wrote: »

As of today face coverings are no longer mandatory.

The legislation for them expired today, June 9th, and hasn't been extended.

It's time to chuck these silly bits of cloth in the bin.

Is this true? Are they no longer mandatory?

CIARAN_BOYLE

bucketybuck wrote: »

To be clear, I am talking about the so called "face coverings" that were made mandatory in Ireland, not industry grade masks in specialist settings.

Too many idiots playing touch the mask scratch the mask play with the face might have increased the rate of transmission amoung the stupid.

Masks have benefits amoung those willing to wear them and treat them seriously and a negative effect on those who don't.

robinph

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Too many idiots playing touch the mask scratch the mask play with the face might have increased the rate of transmission amoung the stupid.

Masks have benefits amoung those willing to wear them and treat them seriously and a negative effect on those who don't.

How is someone scratching their nose through a mask increasing infections?

Fandymo

Fandymo wrote: »

Is this true? Are they no longer mandatory?

Public health laws on face coverings are in place until at least 9 November 2021

According to citizens information

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/covid19/face_coverings_during_covid19.html

SnuggyBear

Can't wait until these useless masks are dropped