Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

Onesea · 25-05-2020 10:24pm

bb1234567 wrote: »

I am acknowledgeing, I just don't think that a large number of people in their 60's and 70's dying is in any way okay or something we should just ignore and get on with, especially people in their 60's, that's just out of middle age, I don't consider it old at all in 2020.

I know we need to find a way around this but I just took issue with your phrasing , 'just let that sink in', it implies that you think people are being hysterical over something irrational, and that we shouldn't be reacting this way as it is only old people dying.

I never said it was ok for the people in their 60s and 70s to die, to shield this group specifically and let the rest get on with life.Keep distanced from them as is but let the younger people live.The new normal thing isn't really a runner

25-05-2020 10:29pm

Onesea wrote: »

It does deserve a reply. The risk of catching and passing from this virus v everyone loosing their jobs, lively hoods and all else that goes wrong.

Reason with me how you think it's OK for the entire workforce to halt given over 96 percent of the illness effects those 60 or over.

I am not throwing anyone to the dogs, it would have been cheaper to give all those 60 or over early retirement.

The entire workforce of Ireland has halted, want to try that one again?

Even with the horrible numbers of people getting some form of state aid your well off the mark.

25-05-2020 10:32pm

Onesea wrote: »

I would have expected you to at least acknowledge the statistic. But you won't.
Nobody want to die, we can all have a problem with it effecting that age group but we can also work around it. We haven't done that and now we will face some interesting times ahead

So the country where you live did the same as Ireland then?

Lundstram · 25-05-2020 10:39pm

Killeen should have nappy on his face he's talking that much sh1te.

New Home · 25-05-2020 10:41pm

Onesea wrote: »

The people who missed screenings. I care about them.The impact any serious illness has on a young person is trajic. But it isn't a black and white choice. The numbers from the hardest hit areas point towards anither plan.
The the 96.5 percent were 60 to end of life age could they along be temporarily segregated.
Didn't one Nordic country take all notes from the cases in Italy and structure the outcome?

How you ignore the numbers and then try guilt me?

What do you think of my plan? What is so wrong with segregating old and weak in response to available data?

I would worry about an economy being closed for a day let alone multiple months.

Still think my comment from the other day was despicable, folks? This is the kind of stuff I was responding to.

wadacrack · 25-05-2020 10:46pm

No deaths here. Hopefully we are turning the corner. Its getting very quiet in here which is also a good indicator that we are suppressing the virus. Probably be more obstacles on the way(outbreaks likely in certain situations/mass gatherings) but I think we have the resources to tackle it. Prepare for the worst hope for the best

fritzelly · 25-05-2020 10:49pm

O'Neill on Claire Byrne Live does my head in

Lundstram · 25-05-2020 10:51pm

Ben Dunne on Claire Byrne Live. Grumpy old git.

YFlyer · 25-05-2020 10:53pm

Which gym will Ben open?

YFlyer · 25-05-2020 10:54pm

Lundstram wrote: »

Ben Dunne on Claire Byrne Live. Grumpy old git.

He said he is happy but not happy out.

utyh2ikcq9z76b · 25-05-2020 10:55pm

Lundstram wrote: »

Ben Dunne on Claire Byrne Live. Grumpy old git.

Seems really positive all things considered

wadacrack · 25-05-2020 10:55pm

YFlyer wrote: »

He said he is happy but not happy out.

Bit strange being asked are you happy out, His business is crumbling atm

Lundstram · 25-05-2020 10:56pm

Toby Faithful Lasagna wrote: »

Seems really positive all things considered

wadacrack wrote: »

Bit strange being asked are you happy out, His business is crumbling atm

He's a multi-millionaire, I'm sure he'll survive.

Onesea · 25-05-2020 10:57pm

New Home wrote: »

Still think my comment from the other day was despicable, folks? This is the kind of stuff I was responding to.

Your choosing to see this in a negative light, when in reality it was poorly chosen words.You know what point I am making.

Maybe a few interviews with people of the older generation would surprise you. They are tougher than you think.

1800_Ladladlad · 25-05-2020 10:58pm

ChelseaRentBoy wrote: »

Great news. The government and HSE need to be congratulated on their approach. Bravo.

Onesea · 25-05-2020 11:01pm

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

The opinions here do not reflect reality.

RandomViewer · 25-05-2020 11:02pm

wadacrack wrote: »

No deaths here. Hopefully we are turning the corner. Its getting very quiet in here which is also a good indicator that we are suppressing the virus. Probably be more obstacles on the way(outbreaks likely in certain situations/mass gatherings) but I think we have the resources to tackle it. Prepare for the worst hope for the best

Numbers always low on Monday,

Jim_Hodge · 25-05-2020 11:03pm

Onesea wrote: »

The opinions here do not reflect reality.

:D:D:D:D:D:D

The first accurate thing you've said.

:D:D

RandomViewer · 25-05-2020 11:05pm

Onesea wrote: »

96.5% were 60 years or older.. Let that sink in.

13.5 percent fatality rate.

This virus is not the problem, poverty and crime will be.

Nursing homes skew the figures, if there had been no quarintine those figures would be different,

Gods Gift · 25-05-2020 11:10pm

Lots of people on Claire Byrne tonight.

And live.

Onesea · 25-05-2020 11:11pm

RandomViewer wrote: »

Nursing homes skew the figures, if there had been no quarintine those figures would be different,

Not true, go look at all the other countries. Take a look at the ages effected.

If this were the case surely retail workers would be catching this.

Plumbthedepths · 25-05-2020 11:15pm

New Home wrote: »

Still think my comment from the other day was despicable, folks? This is the kind of stuff I was responding to.

I do, comparing the suggestion to cocoon the elderly with the Holocaust by using the phrase 'work sets you free'.

Snow Garden · 25-05-2020 11:16pm

Hard to believe Ireland is 8th in the world in deaths-per-million (331). Belgium is highest (812)

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

fritzelly · 25-05-2020 11:17pm

Snow Garden wrote: »

Hard to believe Ireland is 8th in the world in deaths-per-million (331). Belgium is highest (812)

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

Jaysus this has been done to death a thousand times

Steve F · 25-05-2020 11:17pm

I know this is kinda getting off the subject a little but I'm in my late 50's and before all this I was kinda jaded and very little surprised me anymore.
Until this.....
The last few months have been truly surreal.Its really been like a bad movie.If someone had told me what was going to happen not just here but worldwide I would have scoffed.
At times it's even seemed like a bad dream yet I know it isn't.
I truly hope myself or my children never experience the likes of this again

Funsterdelux · 25-05-2020 11:21pm

Gods Gift wrote: »

Lots of people on Claire Byrne tonight.

And live.

Dont count those plane seat mannequins!

Onesea · 25-05-2020 11:22pm

Steve F wrote: »

I know this is kinda getting off the subject a little but I'm in my late 50's and before all this I was kinda jaded and very little surprised me anymore.
Until this.....
The last few months have been truly surreal.Its really been like a bad movie.If someone had told me what was going to happen not just here but worldwide I would have scoffed.
At times it's even seemed like a bad dream yet I know it isn't.
I truly hope myself or my children never experience the likes of this again

Hang in there. This won't last much longer

Plumbthedepths · 25-05-2020 11:22pm

Snow Garden wrote: »

Hard to believe Ireland is 8th in the world in deaths-per-million (331). Belgium is highest (812)

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

Nursing homes account for roughly 55% of all deaths.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/state-left-nursing-homes-isolated-representative-group-says-1.4262313

stephenjmcd · 25-05-2020 11:23pm

HSE Operations report released. Stats as of 8pm.

48 covid confirmed patients currently in ICU.

288 covid confirmed cases across the acute hospital system.

14 cases diagnosed in hospitals in the last 24hrs, 6 of which were reported from Mullingar.

975 vacant beds across the system.

bb1234567 · 25-05-2020 11:25pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Nursing homes account for roughly 55% of all deaths.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/state-left-nursing-homes-isolated-representative-group-says-1.4262313

Yes it is mostly high because of this. I believe Ireland has the highest number of nursing home deaths in the world per capita after Canada. Ireland has not had as many community deaths as most of Europe, so despite the high death toll due to nursing homes there is probably even lower levels of immunity in Ireland than most of continental Europe.

Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

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