Anyone hazard a guess for when the gyms will re-open

ongarite

My local gym is putting out idea of group of 4 outdoor workouts.
I'd be up for it at this stage.

Cill94

rubadub wrote: »

Spotted some new parallel bars, they are sheffield stands for bikes. I noticed 2 of them were unusually close together. There was another set a little wider which were feasible for them too, thank god for lazy builders who do not measure evenly.

this type, nice thick bars and solid as a rock, way better than the actual dip bars that are signposted not to use!

I've been using these as a row variation ever since lockdown began. Ones in my park aren't close enough for dips unfortunately, but if you put your feet on them you can also do incline push-ups.

geotrig

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Motivation to do so is no replacement for free weights and machines

You can get a decent workout at home. You won't improve your strength by much without the means to do so and for that you need a range of weights. Only so much you can do with bands and the small amount of dumbbells or kettlebells some people may have

+100 on this , bands are handy to have and body weight exersices are ok for when you cant get to a decent level of equipment but are no supplement at all for a good range of free weight's and some machines.

My strenght levels have decreased easily the last 6-8 weeks to a point I barely remember what a squat is :pac: and I'm struggling to replace or replicate that

For most ,structure, setup space and uninterrupted time at home is hard to come by normally if you are there and available and then there is trying to get into the right mindset its not impossible but hard to get to if its new.
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Our weather and being restricted to home have helped people adapt so in some ways some wont go back but this thinking could be a lot different come a murky dark wet late nov/dec. I'm not sure id like working out in my dark back then.
I've probably got more disciplined or used to stretching/ mobility work and ab work outs at home (not really but will get there )overall that i will continue do them at home from now on and rethink my gym time somewhat when I/ they return

DM_7

Sorted?

https://twitter.com/QuickTake/status/1262308124440100864?s=19

brianblaze

Loads of German gyms are opening again now, but that's all decided by regional councils, which are run by intelligent qualified people, unlike our own county based system.... Hahaha

CBear1993

brianblaze wrote: »

Loads of German gyms are opening again now, but that's all decided by regional councils, which are run by intelligent qualified people, unlike our own county based system.... Hahaha

Know a few gyms, one in particular in Dublin 15 that’s Crossfit. That has still been charging members it’s €120 per month the whole way through this lockdown. The cheek of this lad. His argument is that he is still providing online zoom classes and uploading weekly programs to the app. Fair enough but your gym isn’t open, people aren’t there, no insurance etc.

Meanwhile you have other great fitness people posting online classes for FREE and very high standard ones at that.

billybonkers

Anywhere to get gymnastics rings at the moment? Want to lash some up for rows and dips

Alf Veedersane

billybonkers wrote: »

Anywhere to get gymnastics rings at the moment? Want to lash some up for rows and dips

d8Fitness our of stock and haven't seen anything on the other sites I use. Amazon?

DM_7

brianblaze wrote: »

Loads of German gyms are opening again now, but that's all decided by regional councils, which are run by intelligent qualified people, unlike our own county based system.... Hahaha

Ireland is small but I would be surprised if a regional approach does not feature more in the future. An outbreak like the one in the meat factory in Edenderry could see local parks, gyms etc closing for a couple of weeks.

rubadub

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

d8Fitness our of stock and haven't seen anything on the other sites I use. Amazon?

and be careful with amazon.

I see these cheap.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/HNOOSTER-Gymnastic-Adjustable-Training-Strength/dp/B086L6VC95/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&m=A14LT199UH6VJ&marketplaceID=A1F83G8C2ARO7P&qid=1589895487&s=merchant-items&sr=1-1

but the seller has 100% negative reviews. The name is one long sting of letters that looks Chinese and the delivery date is in mid june, so probably drop shipping from China, so could take months, if you get it at all.

A lot of people think they are buying from amazon.

B.A._Baracus

I can't wait to go back to the gym myself. But is it a smart idea?

Let's just say they reopen half way through August. Won't there still be Corona cases going around? People will be naturally sweating over machines and dumbbells. Shortly before lockdown FlyeFit had a lady going around cleaning the machines however that can only do so much.

Would be messed up that you made it all the way corona-free during these times and only to pick it up in a gym.

Alf Veedersane

rubadub wrote: »

and be careful with amazon.

I see these cheap.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/HNOOSTER-Gymnastic-Adjustable-Training-Strength/dp/B086L6VC95/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&m=A14LT199UH6VJ&marketplaceID=A1F83G8C2ARO7P&qid=1589895487&s=merchant-items&sr=1-1

but the seller has 100% negative reviews. The name is one long sting of letters that looks Chinese and the delivery date is in mid june, so probably drop shipping from China, so could take months, if you get it at all.

A lot of people think they are buying from amazon.

Yeah should have added that. I automatically look at reviews, product and seller. Especially conscious of where they're coming from now.

Found these...more expensive than the other sites in Ireland or UK but they are in stock.

I've bought stuff from them before and decent service.

Cill94

CBear1993 wrote: »

Know a few gyms, one in particular in Dublin 15 that’s Crossfit. That has still been charging members it’s €120 per month the whole way through this lockdown. The cheek of this lad. His argument is that he is still providing online zoom classes and uploading weekly programs to the app. Fair enough but your gym isn’t open, people aren’t there, no insurance etc.

Meanwhile you have other great fitness people posting online classes for FREE and very high standard ones at that.

You realise most of the people doing everything for free aren't actually professional in-person coaches? They make their money either through product endorsements or they specialise in online coaching.

The guy you're talking about is probably barely staying afloat if he's charging people that. Rent fees alone cut into the majority of your profits as a gym owner.

Can understand if people wouldn't want to pay that much, but that may be this guy's minimum just to keep his business open.

deathbomber

get some bands, can do some great workouts with them, should tide you over.

Black Sheep

Cill94 wrote: »

You realise most of the people doing everything for free aren't actually professional in-person coaches? They make their money either through product endorsements or they specialise in online coaching.

The guy you're talking about is probably barely staying afloat if he's charging people that. Rent fees alone cut into the majority of your profits as a gym owner.

Can understand if people wouldn't want to pay that much, but that may be this guy's minimum just to keep his business open.

Just to add to this... It's also not just about the value of what you're paying for now, it might be about keeping that business going so you can avail of its services later.

I still pay monthly fees for a club I'm involved in at the moment, not because I could be arsed to do zoom workouts (I don't bother), but because I want to keep the business alive so that it can reopen properly for participation in person later in the year. If they go bust, and the premises shuts, and coaches all decide to find new jobs then I have to find a new club / team.

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Going back a few posts people were discussing whether some people might continue to train at home versus going back to gyms.

There's obviously been an explosion of purchases of fitness equipment. You only have to look at the fact that Strength Shop, Blk Box, Rogue Fitness and others are all completely sold out. We have people manufacturing wooden benches in Ireland now because metal benches are so hard to find!

I think it's reasonable to think that a number of people who fitted out home gyms will not be returning to commercial gyms not for budget reasons or health concerns, but just because they prefer their home training set up. What percentage? I'm sure it's very small - 1%, 2%? I don't even know.

I'm one of them - early on I got a rack, bar, plates, put down rubber flooring, bought a dumbbell rack, the whole thing.

It was expensive but basically my training was interrupted for about 2 weeks max.

It's made it much easier to find times to train that suit, so we're actually able to train more frequently than we did before all of this. Even if I have a full work day if it's a training day too then I just set my alarm for 5am and get it done before work.

Because I have the proper flooring, rack, barbell and enough other bits and pieces to do a variety of assistance work it feels like I am not sacrificing any training effect compared to what is available in a commercial gym. It helps that I've been training focused on barbell based approaches for many years.

There is a legitimate argument that you can't replicate what you can achieve in a gym using a few dumbbells and a set of bands. But if you have a bench, rack, plates and the dumbbells and bands then you're pretty much sacrificing nothing, provided you know what you are doing.

I can see how some people might miss the vibe of a commercial gym, or need a coach, or temperamentally just miss a group training environment, but honestly as I am a little older and have been training for longer it suits me down to the ground to have my own space and equipment that I can tinker with and set up just how I want it.

In the U.S there is a big 'garage gym' movement, lots of people who tend to be in their late 30s upwards who have the financial resources to set up their own training spaces. I think in Ireland we are a little more pressed for space in the urban areas, but I suspect recent events may kickstart more of an Irish garage gym movement than existed previously. Nothing like on the scale of the U.S, but I think that there will be a cohort who have moved over to it and will not move back when the gyms re-open.

It's probably a hobby for people with space and some expendable income, but honestly there are lower price point options (Squat stands versus rack, cast iron plates versus bumpers, cheap bar versus quality bar etc).

The supply chains need to return to normal though so people can actually buy this stuff...

brianblaze

Currently sourcing the materials to build this

Black Sheep

I'm on a Facebook group of people training together, and one thing that is happening in the UK and Netherlands is that local metal fabricators are turning out plates for people... Not seen that here yet! These are steel plates, matte finish, and probably not totally accurate but I would say more calibrated than the iron plates you'd get imported from China (I've seen Strength Shop cast iron plates that are hilariously inaccurate, off by as much as 2kg).

brianblaze

I was just talking about that!

VonLuck

brianblaze wrote: »

I was just talking about that!

Pricey!

brianblaze

VonLuck wrote: »

Pricey!

Selling like hot cakes it seems. Very surprised someone here isn't doing it too! People are paying sorts for rubbish at the moment. At least these look okay and hard wearing

DM_7

One thing I have found useful are workout videos on youtube that have no need for equipment.

When gyms are back I might stick with the videos and even follow them for part of the workout when in the gym as they focus my mind and keep me going therough exercises. I have a tendency to stop or rest too long when in the gym.

I am lucky enough to have some weights collected over the years (olympic bar, some plates, standard dumbell set, kettlebell) and boyght a power tower before lockdown but no indoor space to use them so have to use them outside.

I know I will go back to the gym once they open and the weather is worse, daylight is less. I think the hong kong idea I posted yesterday with the plastic screens between cardio equipment could help reassure people alot and get them back in.

They might have no positive benefit but the appearance of gyms trying will go a long way to giving people confidence.

Stone Deaf 4evr

brianblaze wrote: »

Currently sourcing the materials to build this

Buff dudes youtube channel is very good too - although I assume thats how you arrived at that website!

brianblaze

Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »

Buff dudes youtube channel is very good too - although I assume thats how you arrived at that website!

I've been planning on building it for a year, just never had a need to until now! Their DIY Bench looks decent too!

VonLuck

I've a squat rack lying in storage for years now, just don't have the room to put it anywhere in my house, without it being a complete eyesore anyway. I don't think it'd go down too well if I was doing squats while someone was trying to watch the latest episode of Normal People in the living room.

Stone Deaf 4evr

VonLuck wrote: »

I've a squat rack lying in storage for years now, just don't have the room to put it anywhere in my house, without it being a complete eyesore anyway. I don't think it'd go down too well if I was doing squats while someone was trying to watch the latest episode of Normal People in the living room.

with all the grunting and groaning in that, it'd be like having a fancy surround sound setup.

Black Sheep

VonLuck wrote: »

I've a squat rack lying in storage for years now, just don't have the room to put it anywhere in my house, without it being a complete eyesore anyway. I don't think it'd go down too well if I was doing squats while someone was trying to watch the latest episode of Normal People in the living room.

They'd be surrounded by bums going up and down if you were at it and Normal People was on the telly... :pac:

If you're not going to use that rack then now is certainly the time to sell it, judging by some of the crazy prices out there.

brianblaze

VonLuck wrote: »

I've a squat rack lying in storage for years now, just don't have the room to put it anywhere in my house, without it being a complete eyesore anyway. I don't think it'd go down too well if I was doing squats while someone was trying to watch the latest episode of Normal People in the living room.

Sell it! The market is mental for workout gear at the moment! A rack would sell very fast

VonLuck

Black Sheep wrote: »

They'd be surrounded by bums going up and down if you were at it and Normal People was on the telly... :pac:

If you're not going to use that rack then now is certainly the time to sell it, judging by some of the crazy prices out there.

brianblaze wrote: »

Sell it! The market is mental for workout gear at the moment! A rack would sell very fast

I would, only that it has gathered some rust over the years. Wouldn't like to inflict that on anyone else!

brianblaze

VonLuck wrote: »

I would, only that it has gathered some rust over the years. Wouldn't like to inflict that on anyone else!

I'll take it! I've nothing but time and sandpaper on my hands! Haha

antimatterx

Flyefit are shower of ****s.

They have paused memberships which is fantastic. But they won't let you cancel, so the gyms are allowed to open again they're going to bill you.