CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) *Read OP*

Shn99

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

Absolutely not. Look at Italy or Spain for an example of too late.

True, but one would wonder how long they last, unlikely it will be just until the 29th

BorneTobyWilde

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2_CNGOx2A8

ITman88

amadangomor wrote: »

Dev, Dev, we need you here licking shopping trolley to see did everyone infect them. Dev don't feck off now when things get tough

Micheal, I need you to travel to Cork, you will be safe in your home county, don’t worry 😉

threeball

Equium wrote: »

https://twitter.com/bellabee13/status/1237958981966061569

Continued...

Australia burns, work from home, Boris Johnson got it wrong
Italy fecked, Donald Trump, Wall Street takes a slump

Dettol, death cults, bat soup, bad results
Sinn Féin, Tehran plane, no more tapas in Spain

All together now

We didn't start the fire,
Its been always burning
since the worlds been turning

Clarence Boddiker

People should stop blaming Boris Johnson and Trump simply because they don't like them, they're making decisions based on advice they are given by multiple parties, agencies, health advisors, civil servants etc
they're not unilaterally deciding themselves as individuals which direction to take. Same with Varadkar

amacca

ITman88 wrote: »

My initial point was the option of isolating those at risk.
Not school kids or teachers.
Not business’s and employee’s.
Those 68+ and the vulnerable.
The 68+ are already mostly retired, the vulnerable can work from home.
Those people do not have contact with anyone only medical personnel.
The rest of society continue as normal and only those that get critically ill need hospital attention.
This preserves a fragile economy(very important) limits the risk to 68+ and vulnerable, and builds immunity among the younger population.

I got your point and quite clearly responded to it. Restating it doesn't serve any purpose or make it more correct.

For the record, I think its a poorly thought out point and would in all likelihood increase the risk to the 68+ cohort ...I detailed just some reasons for this in my original reply. You are free to re-read it if you want. I feel simply restating what I wrote wouldn't make it any more or less valid than it was the first time.

BLIZZARD7

take everything wrote: »

The UK strategy of building up herd immunity is depressing for over 65s.

Its almost a new norm of saying elderly are expendable.
I know one of its aims is it gives the medical system a chance but it doesn't sit right with me- something very euthanasia and depressing about it.

My guess is they back peddle on their course of action in a few weeks when the anger in the population becomes palpable. This of course having major implications for their entire strategy.

joe40

amadangomor wrote: »

That **** Cummins dreamed it up and is a similar strategy to what the British used in the Famine. Can't believe Irish people think letting it spread and the rich being in the best position to pick up the pieces and grab power/property is a good thing.

Sinn Fein voters being socialist me hole, when it comes down to an existential threat they are ****ing clueless.

I'm not necessarily supporting the British strategy but it has the backing of their chief medical officer who by all accounts is extremely well respected in public health.
Simplistic to say it is Boris Johnson or Dominic Cummins plan.

05eaftqbrs9jlh

Snowbiee21 wrote: »

Have we got another death to confirm? Conor mcgregors aunty passed away . Posted on his insta

https://www.instagram.com/p/B9sUSN1pMs0/comments/?hl=en
https://rip.ie/death-notice/ann-moore-fettercairn-dublin/416217

That's sad

Nermal

take everything wrote: »

The UK strategy of building up herd immunity is depressing for over 65s.

Its almost a new norm of saying elderly are expendable.

If anything it’s the opposite. Herd immunity will be built up in the young. Compared to us, the young will be risked to save the elderly.

amadangomor

Equium wrote: »

https://twitter.com/bellabee13/status/1237958981966061569

Continued...

Australia burns, work from home, Boris Johnson got it wrong
Italy fecked, Donald Trump, Wall Street takes a slump

Dettol, death cults, bat soup, bad results
Sinn Féin, Tehran plane, no more tapas in Spain

We won't get depressed about the general situation, that's out of our control.

What's still in our control is how fast the virus spreads here and that will affect how many people die. Do everything we can to slow the spread, even if it's washing/sanitising your hands after you touch your face .

That little thing could make the difference between this virus slowing enough to give out health service a fighting chance and being totally overwhelmed.

retro:electro

Equium wrote: »

https://twitter.com/bellabee13/status/1237958981966061569

Continued...

Australia burns, work from home, Boris Johnson got it wrong
Italy fecked, Donald Trump, Wall Street takes a slump

Dettol, death cults, bat soup, bad results
Sinn Féin, Tehran plane, no more tapas in Spain

Stock market takes a dive, at least we have the €305, toilet roll, clean holes, not much good when on the dole

Army will be on the streets, guards on Monday on the beat, same old losers on the stout, MEDIAAAA BLACKOUT

Clarence Boddiker

cloudatlas wrote: »

I'm not an expert, that's what they said: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqoV9Rjs_lk&t=17m0s

Well then on this particular issue the WHO are making no sense. I suspect they are under severe pressure from Global business interests to keep international flights/travel going.

bogwarrior

So am I right in thinking that the leader of our country has travelled to America
And we should stay home , great leadership there , wtf is going on , should have closed the country when we had the chance , we are an island ,one chance to lead and he failed all of the people who will die .

ITman88

amacca wrote: »

I got your point and quite clearly responded to it. Restating it doesn't serve any purpose or make it more correct.

For the record, I think its a poorly thought out point and would in all likelihood increase the risk to the 68+ cohort ...I detailed just some reasons for this in my original reply. You are free to re-read it if you want. I feel simply restating what I wrote wouldn't make it any more or less valid than it was the first time.

I have reread again. I was rude in my 1st reply and I apologise.
What I do disagree with tho is
If the most vulnerable isolate, we won’t have the following issues

Economy
work force mostly still available to work
Kids in school-parents at work, grandparents not minding kids
Travel restriction lifted
No mortgage repayment issues


Health
ICU not in demand, less requirement for care as vulnerable less likely to catch virus in isolation

nocoverart

This whole thing is such a dark cloud I didn’t even notice it was Friday the 13th. I’m the kind of guy that would cancel a Dental appointment if it landed on Friday the 13th.

Jinglejangle69

bogwarrior wrote: »

So am I right in thinking that the leader of our country has travelled to America
And we should stay home , great leadership there , wtf is going on , should have closed the country when we had the chance , we are an island ,one chance to lead and he failed all of the people who will die .

Every minute this situation is changing

amacca

Nermal wrote: »

If anything it’s the opposite. Herd immunity will be built up in the young. Compared to us, the young will be risked to save the elderly.

I think thats bull****...I think it will be so widespread so quickly at some point in the near future their health system wont be able to treat older people when it spikes and they will be left to die....along with a significant number not in that cohort.

Thats if they continue to pursue that strategy...I think they will have to row back soon...they are no complete morons and must surely have some fear of consequences

I wouldn't be sure that the CMO isnt bought and paid for either or pressured in some way.

Europe has proven totally impotent. I wouldn’t be surprised with more anti EU sentiment and more nationalist politics in the aftermath. Why didn’t the EU close to China when the US and Australia did? Why didn’t the US and Australia close to the EU when they failed to follow tact. Why didn’t travel bans roll out as countries were infected.

None of this was inevitable. The open borders mentality is going to cost hugely and backfire hugely

wakka12

Why is Connor Mcgregor's aunt not counted in the official country stats if she has apparently died of coronavirus?

Nermal

UK strategy explained, worth your time:

https://twitter.com/iandonald_psych/status/1238518371651649538

I will say the media presentation of it has been terrible...

An Ri rua

Snow Garden wrote: »

Melodramatic much? I would say I didn't live through World War 2!

Good night folks. Tomorrow is another day.

I don't think neutrality us going to keep us out if this one somehow....
Our folks didn't live through WWII, they lived through a filtered, safe but tough version, the Emergency.

This isn't that.

Jinglejangle69

Nermal wrote: »

UK strategy explained, worth your time:

https://twitter.com/iandonald_psych/status/1238518371651649538

I will say the media presentation of it has been terrible...

Leave them to it.

20silkcut

Brynn Delicious Cafeteria wrote: »

Do you think we'll ever be the same after all this has passed (hopefully)? Will we forever change how we behave or will we just forget about it all afterwards?

I'm more worried about the long term effects of this than the virus itself.

This is probably going to have a very negative effect on children who will be isolated or stigmatised for a very very long time. This will not be 2 weeks long and I think we all know that.

The 1918 flu was a lot worse than this and after that came the care free roaring 20’s so yes we will get over this too.

MrMusician18

Deleted User wrote: »

Europe has proven totally impotent. I wouldn’t be surprised with more anti EU sentiment and more nationalist politics in the aftermath. Why didn’t the EU close to China when the US and Australia did? Why didn’t the US and Australia close to the EU when they failed to follow tact. Why didn’t travel bans roll out as countries were infected.

None of this was inevitable. The open borders mentality is going to cost hugely and backfire hugely

Perhaps because it's national government's and not the EU that has competence in this area.

All the EU can do is facilitate cooperation. Unless of course you are arguing for more powers for Brussels??

amadangomor

ITman88 wrote: »

Micheal, I need you to travel to Cork, you will be safe in your home county, don’t worry ��

Someone said something about a cluster down der, will be straight on it Dev, I'm sure no risk to meself

Jinglejangle69

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Europe has proven totally impotent. I wouldn’t be surprised with more anti EU sentiment and more nationalist politics in the aftermath. Why didn’t the EU close to China when the US and Australia did? Why didn’t the US and Australia close to the EU when they failed to follow tact. Why didn’t travel bans roll out as countries were infected.

None of this was inevitable. The open borders mentality is going to cost hugely and backfire hugely

So you're agreeing it wasn't inevitable?

What's your problem so??

An Ri rua

^^ why would children be stigmatised???

Pintman Paddy Losty

wakka12 wrote: »

Why is Connor Mcgregor's aunt not counted in the official country stats if she has apparently died of coronavirus?

There's a media blackout on it.

So are we heading for an Italy style scenario still? Sam McConkey who shook alot of people up with his 80,000 to 120,000 deaths scenario a while back seems quite supportive of what the gov is doing currently.