Covid-XIX Part VI - 90 cases ROI (1 death) 29 in NI (as of 13 March) *Read OP*

Beanybabog

Poland closed all schools and universities until 25th March. They have 25 cases

Beasty

spookwoman wrote: »

I did but left it as is as I was asked not to tell anyone

Everyone else has passed it onto at least 2 people - this particular rumour has spread faster than any virulent bug. By Friday the whole of the planet will know

Stevieluvsye

otnomart wrote: »

Yesterday I posted this table which I found on Twitter:

a comparative table of China, Italy, Germany and France.
At 200 cases, the curves seem symmetrical. (John Hopkins University data)

31st of General was a bad day for China

05eaftqbrs9jlh

all about the mane wrote: »

Bullsh1t. That doesn’t even make any sense.

I know yeah, how can you definitively know an unknown number? Even your best guess could be way off. Unfortunately as our selective testing methods do not screen in a way that will detect community transmission, we have a situation that is already out of control.

https://twitter.com/Dickdoc123/status/1237722534478524416?s=20

https://twitter.com/CovidIreland/status/1237693473844854785?s=20

https://twitter.com/brianymoran/status/1237517976942731266?s=20

https://twitter.com/NAChristakis/status/1235204453315358722?s=20

TheyDidWhat?!

spookwoman wrote: »

I did but left it as is as I was asked not to tell anyone

Missed this

Someone in the know has an update on numbers that can't be shared?

Tippex

Doctor Shipman wrote: »

I'd say the football European Championships will be cancelled aswell.

Yep the fact that it's across 12 cities and countries is going to cause massive logistical problems.
I can see them giving it until end of April if things have not improved they will pull the plug.
Mid May and I think the plug will be pulled on the Olympics.

The amount of events that are being cancelled / moved now is really ramping up Coachella was moved to november yesterday.

dougm1970

deisedevil wrote: »

The HSE are not testing anyone who has all the symptoms but don't have a link to a confirmed case or were in one of the "affected" regions (is Ireland not an affected region yet). So people who are at home with terrible flu symptoms and high temps are being told there is no need to test them I know of quite a few of these. One who has been in bed for nearly a week and was told there is no need to test. That could be a case. That's unreported. And same with a few others.

yes...and this was like the lady who rang newstalk yesterday and had an obvious dry cough and the presenter (ciara...) who's seemingly a doctor, told her it was probably just a cold and not to worry about it....my concern is these could be carriers.....but, anyway, besides that, i'm wondering, how did the cases that got tested as positive and were community cases, where they had no contact with other cases, get tested at all...how did they qualify to get tested ?....i have a feeling thats been answered in other thread but i missed it and am still curious.

Funsterdelux

dougm1970 wrote: »

i put this at end of last thread...looked back and thread had ended....anyway...

whats happening in russia?....are they not reporting cases or testing ?.....or are they really not getting hit as hard....i see countries further away from equator like greenland not getting hit, but russia has hard hit countries like sweden and finland beside it....mongolia the same with low figures and china and south korea beside it.....and then theres turkeys numbers.
its a curiosity.

The virus must be scared of strongmen like putin, erdogon etc.

Mic 1972

PokeHerKing wrote: »

Whilst it's possible it's no guarantee either. There was widespread testing in Hubei/China once they got some semblance of control over the outbreak and they did not find the hundreds of thousands of mild cases the WHO were expecting.

Correct. The same happened in Italy
Thousands of undetected people sitting at home with no symptoms was a wrong assumptions. All clusters get detected through people with severe symptoms who test positive

Cohen Obnoxious Eel

Cohen Obnoxious Eel wrote: »

I know yeah, how can you definitively know an unknown number? Even your best guess could be way off. Unfortunately as our selective testing methods do not screen in a way that will detect community transmission, we have a situation that is already out of control.

https://twitter.com/Dickdoc123/status/1237722534478524416?s=20

https://twitter.com/CovidIreland/status/1237693473844854785?s=20

https://twitter.com/brianymoran/status/1237517976942731266?s=20

https://twitter.com/NAChristakis/status/1235204453315358722?s=20

I see one those tweets, says schools & 3rd level colleges closing until "after Easter". I'd be surprised if they were back open before the Autumn.

Beasty

TheyDidWhat?! wrote: »

Missed this

Someone in the know has an update on numbers that can't be shared?

Someone knows someone who apparently may "know" something that may or indeed may not be accurate

Tacitus Kilgore

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

I just want to correct something as a lot of people quoted me.

I either read the post wrong or it wasn't fully quoted, but I thought the person returned from Madrid but wasn't showing symptoms. That's why I said chances are he isn't sick. No need to isolate.

I was wrong. The person is sick and most definitely should NOT be in work. Apologies.

As for my employees. None of them can afford winter holidays so non of them need to self isolate. As per HSE advice if they are traced to a known case they will isolate. Hasn't happened yet. And before someone says it, no they can't work from home.

As for the 1% figure. We know that this is mild or even symptomless in many people. The testing is not widespread enough to give a true mortality rate yet. It's likely to be lower because we're mostly testing serious cases.

Backpedaller Paddy Losty :pac:

Cee-Jay-Cee

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Ah now, P. This isn’t some strong “wind” or a bit of snow where people are trying to skive off for a day on the couch.

I get pissed off with “martyrs” coming in with a bad cold, or flu, at the best of times and this is one bad flu I don’t want to get.

Then the fact he’s going to a doctor’s appointment when the “recommended route” is to call the GP and “self isolate”.

I’d be looking at “disciplinary” action against that lad on his return to work.

Knowing endangering the entire office, and, more importantly, it’s efficiency has to be covered under some HR “policy”.

Who is going to discipline him? The clueless managers that dismissed it when it was brought to their attention earlier. They are the ones that should be sacked for gross negligence if he tests positive for C19!

But yeah I agree with you on these clowns coming into work when they are clearly ill and even more so in the current climate.

We had a similar thing happen here last year, staff member comes in coughing and spluttering and in rotten form and refused to go home saying 'ah its only a bit of a flu'. I told my office manager unless they send them home then i'm leaving as I don't want to catch it and pass it onto my children/family. They were sent home and didn't come back for over a week as they were so bad. Fúcking arseholes!!

all about the mane

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Correct. The same happened in Italy
Thousands of undetected people sitting at home with no symptoms was a wrong assumptions. All clusters get detected through people with severe symptoms who test positive

You can’t account for something that hasn’t been detected.

Candlemass

Beanybabog wrote: »

Poland closed all schools and universities until 25th March. They have 25 cases

Ukraine only has 1 case and they have shut schools/ mass events and cancelled some flights

https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/reuters-ukrainian-capital-kyiv-shuts-schools-mass-events-to-prevent-spread-of-virus.html?cn-reloaded=1

Graces7

Beasty wrote: »

OK, Here goes


DON'T PANIC!!

Beasty; I honestly think folk are in these posts, just stating facts and worst case scenarios. The ones who are panicking tend to say so or not post. Maybe panic is in the eye of the reader.. I hope no one IS panicking .

Mic 1972

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

As for the 1% figure. We know that this is mild or even symptomless in many people. The testing is not widespread enough to give a true mortality rate yet. It's likely to be lower because we're mostly testing serious cases.

I think it's time to familiarize with the current stats, no matter how scary
The 1% is pure fantasy
the current death rate is 6% trending positive based on more than 70K closed cases, it's a very large sample
we not testing only serious cases, we are testing also everyone who was in contact with a positive case. The number of undetected cases seems to be small

MadYaker

Schools shouldn't open tomorrow I don't know what they're waiting for. It's obvious they will do it soon anyway so why wait? Why do they have to wait for the HSE to make a decision? Fcuk that, is that not where a minister steps in and says right that's it schools closed?

Naggdefy

I was running loo on toilet paper and bought some locally. Jaysus the looks I got, I wouldn't mind only I had 45 rolls.

Mic 1972

all about the mane wrote: »

You can’t account for something that hasn’t been detected.

you don't get it, it's fine
cheers

cloudatlas

Naggdefy wrote: »

I was running loo on toilet paper and bought some locally. Jaysus the looks I got, I wouldn't mind only I had 45 rolls.

Did you get some baked beans as well?

all about the mane

Mic 1972 wrote: »

I think it's time to familiarize with the current stats, no matter how scary
The 1% is pure fantasy
the current death rate is 6% trending positive based on more than 70K closed cases, it's a very large sample
we not testing only serious cases, we are testing also everyone who was in contact with a positive case. The number of undetected cases seems to be small

Yeah...nobody’s panicking

DrumSteve

Mic 1972 wrote: »

I think it's time to familiarize with the current stats, no matter how scary
The 1% is pure fantasy
the current death rate is 6% trending positive based on more than 70K closed cases, it's a very large sample
we not testing only serious cases, we are testing also everyone who was in contact with a positive case. The number of undetected cases seems to be small

I actually think the CFR will drop again once Italy gets a handle on the outstanding cases.

Inquitus

namloc1980 wrote: »

Testing regime here is very narrow so numbers are staying low.

Same in the UK, guy has symptoms,:

https://twitter.com/Samfr/status/1237276093620654080

The NHS 111 coronavirus tool is currently advising that unless you have had direct contact with a confirmed case of coronavirus or have recently travelled from an affected area, you do not need to call NHS 111.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/mar/11/coronavirus-update-live-news-uk-health-minister-italy-lockdown-australia-us-china-stock-markets-outbreak-latest-updates?page=with:block-5e68affb8f087df56e4c64b8#block-5e68affb8f087df56e4c64b8

all about the mane

Mic 1972 wrote: »

you don't get it, it's fine
cheers

TheAsYLuMkeY

Beasty wrote: »

Someone knows someone who apparently may "know" something that may or indeed may not be accurate

Definitely maybe

RandomName2

Beasty wrote: »

OK, Here goes


DON'T PANIC!!

Go all in, or do nothing. There is no in-between.

The time for panicking was back in January. No panic meant the spread to multiple countries.

The time for panic was back in February. No panic meant the spread to Ireland.

The time for panic is March. No panic means we end up in the same position Italy is now in.

What is panic on an individual level anyway: buying lots of lavatory paper and hand sanitizer? That doesn't really matter either way. People shouldn't do that, but it isn't the most pressing issue at hand.

Ms2011

My husband just got an email from his job saying in the event of being infected or quarantined they should work from home, if that is not an option (as in my husband's case as he works on heavy machinery) the employee must use holidays or unpaid leave regardless if they have been instructed by a GP or the HSE to stay at home.
I can see this causing alot of people to risk working even if they suspect they may be sick.

Naggdefy

John B Keane's wife had a great saying when the family met hardship.. 'We'll hoor it out'.

Instead of 'Let's Make America Great Again'. Let the Irish mantra be..

'We'll Hoor It Out!'

dublin99

Latest clusters reported in Nagoya, Japan, totalling 81 new cases:

36 associated with a gym
45 associated with care facility for the old

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/03/11/national/science-health/japan-covid-19-clusters-local-governments/#.XmjiNaj7SUk

We must learn from these lessons. Even one asymptomatic case can cause a cluster in the community!

Of the Asian cities, Taiwan, Hong Kong and Macau have done relatively well to stop community spread. In addition to quarantine requirements for visitors from infected countries (including Italy), EVERYONE wears a mask!

European officials/specialists are downplaying the effectiveness of masks only because the supply is limited. I got some when travelling in Asia last Christmas and I am going to start wearing them.... at least it will offer some protection (from the droplets) from the guy coughing behind me on the bus!