Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

voluntary

Chile just imposed a quarantine on passengers arriving from Spain and Italy. Shouldn't we?

Naggdefy

The Chinese really are a grand bunch of lads.

Now contrast with the German behaviour yesterday..

twirlagig

SpitfireIV wrote: »

So I have an underlying illness (heart failure), I'm relatively fit, active, mid thirties, everything is good, for now. Seems though I'm in the 'old age or those with underlying condition bracket' when it comes to the stats, and itd seem its not the most desirable percentage to be in!!

It's been portrayed almost as a near death sentence for me, but even with my condition could I still just get a mild strain or if I did contract it just be mildly ill? ie having a condition doesnt mean you're buggered??!

You said you’re relatively fit and active Spitfire and that everything is good otherwise so you’re obviously doing something right regarding your illness. Just mind yourself and stay aware and be safe.

Cilldara_2000

SpitfireIV wrote: »

So I have an underlying illness (heart failure), I'm relatively fit, active, mid thirties, everything is good, for now. Seems though I'm in the 'old age or those with underlying condition bracket' when it comes to the stats, and itd seem its not the most desirable percentage to be in!!

It's been portrayed almost as a near death sentence for me, but even with my condition could I still just get a mild strain or if I did contract it just be mildly ill? ie having a condition doesnt mean you're buggered??!

Correct. The stats are out there, higher risk groups are just that; higher risk. Most people in any group have survived.

CinemaGuy45

Naggdefy wrote: »

The Chinese really are a grand bunch of lads.

Now contrast with the German behaviour yesterday..

What did the Germans do yesterday?

igCorcaigh

Mellor wrote: »

I’m not saying it will be the final number. We don’t know the final number. But that’s the current number. Not sure how you can argue otherwise.

It should trend down, but if health services reach capacity. Many people who could have recovered won’t. Basic stuff tbh.

Yeah, it really could go either way.
And we will never know the true mortality rate.

Although the cfr is inherently an underestimate of true mortality rate, it provides a metric for us to compare across countries, so is valuable in itself.

rainbowtrout

RandomName2 wrote: »

Surely that's 85K cases, not 85K deaths.

It would only be 85K deaths if literally 100% of the population were infected.

Unfortunately, he did actually say that.


https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/up-to-85000-irish-people-could-die-from-coronavirus-in-worst-case-scenario-taoiseach-indicates-as-three-more-diagnosed-39029363.html

hurikane

skimpydoo wrote: »

A good friend of mine Samantha Kelly aka the Tweeting Goddess has started a great new initiative for those of us who are like me and have to self-isolate as you can see below.

https://twitter.com/Tweetinggoddess/status/1237456130575646721?s=20

Isn’t she great using a virus to go viral.

igCorcaigh

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

What did the Germans do yesterday?

Stop exporting face masks I think.
Another poster mentioned it.

drunkmonkey

MCKG wrote: »

Its south Galway.

Different, this would be north east Clare

fr336

Rebelbrowser wrote: »

0.6% death rate in South Korea, 0.8% on that cruise ship where most were over 70, Italy figure based on their global figures that have only 1.4% of cases being under 19 which means they are missing loads and loads of v mild or asymptomatic cases in young people thus skewing figures. Date rate in a country forewarned will be less than 1% in all likelihood

Thank you for a reassuring post we need more like it

Hurrache

whiskeyman wrote: »

I reckon the huge push to get loose fruit / veg will be overlooked now as plastic wrapped will be seeked out.

God made a mistake by not including most fruit and veg to have their own wrapping and packaging of some sort.

igCorcaigh

voluntary wrote: »

Chile just imposed a quarantine on passengers arriving from Spain and Italy. Shouldn't we?

Yes, we should have done.

Cuckoo7

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Lads, WTF are the French doing?
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1237458264616570881?s=20

I don’t know if any of you watched the France 24 last night.
They had two french experts on the set and an American and Italian on videocon.
One of the french was very you have to measure your response... the other one was it’s just a flu.

Naggdefy

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Stop exporting face masks I think.
Another poster mentioned it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thelocal.com/20200309/germany-blocks-protective-masks-headed-for-switzerland/amp

flynnlives

Im informed of a suspected case in nenagh hospital this afternoon.

FutureGuy

The government needs to be one step ahead, not two behind.

gmisk

JJayoo wrote: »

Ryanair have suspended flights to and from Italy until April, but ****ing late but I suppose we couldn't expect Michael o Leary to miss out on making some cash by importing the virus, good lad mick

No running down of aerlingus? Only seems fair

CinemaGuy45

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Stop exporting face masks I think.
Another poster mentioned it.

otnomart

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Stop exporting face masks I think.
Another poster mentioned it.

Germany had banned exports of face masks and other protective equipment and the French government had decided to take over production of protective masks.



Thankfully, just earlier this evening the European Council agreed that the EU will jointly procure face masks and respirators for member states.

JJayoo

gmisk wrote: »

No running down of aerlingus? Only seems fair

Ryanair is run by one Irish guy who has the power to shut **** down if he gave a ****.

owlbethere

SeaBreezes wrote: »

Good to see humans helping humans..

Nice one.

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1237435123072667649

This is good news. Thanks

I wrote it here last night that China better step up after the mess the made.

Mellor

Rebelbrowser wrote: »

0.6% death rate in South Korea, 0.8% on that cruise ship where most were over 70, Italy figure based on their global figures that have only 1.4% of cases being under 19 which means they are missing loads and loads of v mild or asymptomatic cases in young people thus skewing figures. Date rate in a country forewarned will be less than 1% in all likelihood

S.Korea has had 58 deaths out of 305 outcomes.
The cruise ship still has a lot of severe cases.

Not you if your assuming all active cases recover or if your don’t understand how a statistics work.

Graces7

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Go in and kill them all. That's what they want.

That is an unacceptable view.

In the UK they advised not barring visits as that could cause loneliness in the old folk. They have a very real point. We do not know how long this will go on and separation from family and loved ones causes so much grief especially for old folk near the natural end of their life. Family is precious.

If visitors are masked etc , hands washed etc, the visits will be safe and bring great comfort.

NB are staff in the homes coming in on duty masked? If not what is the difference? They are coming in from the outside world and thus as "dangerous" as visitors. Same as doctors visiting etc.

otnomart

Cuckoo7 wrote: »

I don’t know if any of you watched the France 24 last night.
They had two french experts on the set and an American and Italian on videocon.
One of the french was very you have to measure your response... the other one was it’s just a flu.

Yes.
They are still holding the local elections (didn't they follow what just happened in Iran ???) and recommending voters to bring their own pen to the polling stations.

fr336

otnomart wrote: »

Thankfully, just earlier this evening the European Council agreed that the EU will jointly procure face masks and respirators for member states.

That's the UK screwed then

Quantum Erasure

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

igCorcaigh wrote: »

I see that UK are releasing a data visualisation tool to map geographical spread.

We don't need that of course, with only four options.

Ireland 2020 we have 78 genders but we only have four areas in the entire country.

post of the thread?

bekker

Italy
The analysis,out of 8342 positive cases at 9 March at 10 am, shows that 1.4% are under the age of 19, 22.0% are in the 19-50 range, 37.4% between 51 and 70 and 39.2% are over 70, for a median age of 65. 62.1% are men. There are 583 positive health workers.

The median time elapsed between the date of onset of symptoms and diagnosis is 3-4 days. 10% of cases are asymptomatic, 5% with few symptoms, 30% with mild symptoms, 31% are symptomatic, 6% have severe symptoms and 19% are critical. 24% of the cases examined are hospitalized. The analysis confirms that 56.6% of the deceased people are over 80 years old, and two thirds of them have 3 or more pre-existing chronic diseases.

This is the cohort who may be the spreaders 10% of cases are asymptomatic, 5% with few symptoms, 30% with mild symptoms, in the early stages probably not really bothered with those symptoms, I know I wouldn't have been. HOMI Milano international trade fair for design and interior decoration and furnishig took place Jan. 2020, >80k viitors, >1,400 exhibitors many Chinese.

CinemaGuy45

owlbethere wrote: »

This is good news. Thanks

I wrote it here last night that China better step up after the mess the made.

This is how you call for Chinese help.

igCorcaigh

Covid-19 outbreak: what do health experts mean by 'flattening the curve'?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/10/covid-19-coronavirus-flattening-the-curve?