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FG to just do nothing for the next 5 years.
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It appears you actually could, and just did.
I hear a lot of people insinuating this, but can you link me to an example of Sinn Fein, complaining that FG won't go back into govt?
Just because you keep repeating something over and over and over again, doesn't make it true.
I asked the same question to the same poster on another thread. Haven't seen or heard one example of it.
But that isn't surprising really. The same people that are backing this lot, would love to have people believe it.
To put that into context, their 'competition' - FF, who had brought the country to it's knees, and SF with all of the links to a sordid past and connections with the IRA, all FG had to do really, was turn up.
Fianna Fail, less than 10 years ago were undoubtedly the most hated party in the country, nobody could every imagine voting for them again. The Greens weren't liked much either.
SF, were never really a party that anyone could vote for, not a majority anyway. They have after all (as is pointed out a billion times a day) lay in bed with the IRA, they probably killed Shergar using the sawn off legs of the victims that Mary Lou shot in her bathroom, nobody could every vote for them.
So FG (and Labour) it is.
9 years later, they have done nothing.
Not only that, but four of the people in that photo above been the main reason that FG had their worst election results since 1948 - their 2nd worst ever in their existence, but they did it on the back of the country feeling the way they did about the other parties.
As a result the Greens found themselves having a great election.
Sinn Fein - The party that killed a million people and painted the streets with their guts, received an overwhelming show of support in almost every constituency that they ran in.
Fianna Fail equaled them in seats.
Labour are all but finished.
Fine Gael pottered about stuttering and pointing at everyone else trying to figure out which of the other parties were to blame.
All they have been capable of saying (even with similar seats and responsibilities) is 'the onus is on them' before crawling back into their hole.
I personally can't understand why any FG voters would want them back in, with the damage that they have done to the party, let alone anyone affiliated to or that would vote for, SF.
So - Nope, It is highly unlikely the "SF supporters still outraged FG won't form a government".
It has to have been blind politics/voting that got Harris and Murphy back in, even Varadkar and Madigan got back in, although they didn't have an easy ride in the election either, yet they and the posters here seem to keep pointing out that a shoe could have run as an SF candidate and would have got in. All the while not looking at themselves as a, or the possible reason for that, nor at their voters being guilty of the same thing.
They truly are an odious bunch.
Personally, I think they are about to do a lot more damage, unfortunately it will be us, the 'plebs' that feel the brunt of it, and their own party will also undoubtedly rightly suffer. And if/when Varadkar & co are finally handed their notice, they'll walk into some other job, most likely in return for some of the many favours they have done while ignoring the important things that needed fixing.
'But SF are linked with the IRA', 'The guy sang the RA song', 'Mary Lou is fat', 'MLMcD has a voice like a foghorn'
Luckily they are here to make sure everyone is aware of the facts.0 -
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I asked the same question to the same poster on another thread. Haven't seen or heard one example of it.
But that isn't surprising really. The same people that are backing this lot, would love to have people believe it.
To put that into context, their 'competition' - FF, who had brought the country to it's knees, and SF with all of the links to a sordid past and connections with the IRA, all FG had to do really, was turn up.
Fianna Fail, less than 10 years ago were undoubtedly the most hated party in the country, nobody could every imagine voting for them again. The Greens weren't liked much either.
SF, were never really a party that anyone could vote for, not a majority anyway. They have after all (as is pointed out a billion times a day) lay in bed with the IRA, they probably killed Shergar using the sawn off legs of the victims that Mary Lou shot in her bathroom, nobody could every vote for them.
So FG it is.
9 years later, they have done nothing.
Not only that, but four of the people in that photo above been the main reason that FG had their worst election results since 1948 - their 2nd worst ever in their existence, but they did it on the back of the country feeling the way they did about the other parties.
As a result the Greens found themselves having a great election.
Sinn Fein - The party that killed a million people and painted the streets with their guts, received an overwhelming show of support in almost every constituency that they ran in.
Fianna Fail equaled them in seats.
Fine Gael pottered about stuttering and pointing at everyone else trying to figure out which of the other parties were to blame.
All they have been capable of saying (even with similar seats and responsibilities) is 'the onus is on them' before crawling back into their hole.
I personally can't understand why any FG voters would want them back in, with the damage that they have done to the party, let alone anyone affiliated to or that would vote for, SF.
So - Nope, It is highly unlikely the "SF supporters still outraged FG won't form a government".
It has to have been blind politics/voting that got Harris and Murphy back in, even Varadkar and Madigan got back in, although they didn't have an easy ride in the election either, yet they and the posters here seem to keep pointing out that a shoe could have run as an SF candidate and would have got in. All the while not looking at themselves as a, or the possible reason for that, nor at their voters being guilty of the same thing.
They truly are an odious bunch.
Personally, I think they are about to do a lot more damage, unfortunately it will be us, the 'plebs' that feel the brunt of it, and their own party will also undoubtedly rightly suffer. And if/when Varadkar & co are finally handed their notice, they'll walk into some other job, most likely in return for some of the many favours they have done while ignoring the important things that needed fixing.
'But SF are linked with the IRA', 'The guy sang the RA song', 'Mary Lou is fat', 'MLMcD has a voice like a foghorn'
Luckily they are here to make sure everyone is aware of the facts.
To be fair, she’s feckin massive!
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If you need something like that explained in the current environment, then nit pick away, but don't expect any answers.
I can't imagine that anyone would be really bothered to answer inane questions like that.
However, I thought it was a fair question wondering why the outgoing minister of housing hasn't yet agreed to meet them. Does he assume he has washed his hands of it all?
Having done nothing while in there and was no doubt facing a vote of no confidence, I would think it would be in his better interests to go and talk.
But I expect the coward to run. Couldn't face them.
We all know why O’Brion is really meeting them
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all about the mane wrote: »We all know why O’Brion is really meeting them
We all know why Murphy isn't meeting them 0 -
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all about the mane wrote: »Because he’s not looking for a photo op
Because he doesn't have the balls to go out and face anyone knowing how incompetent he has been and wouldn't be able to give them any answers 0 -
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Why would O'Broin have answers for Eoghan Murphys incompetence?all about the mane wrote: »And O’Brion will have answers
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Don't think it's me that is confused. You aren't sure why a newly elected politician would meet staff about rent prices rising, but you think he would have answers about the previous ministers reasons for being incompetent..all about the mane wrote: »I’d say you are confused a lot. Don’t worry about it. O’Brion will tell you what you want to hear. It’s what SF are best at
I'm sure all this typing is hurting your head, time for bed try not to hurt yourself too much.0 -
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Real example of misinformation.
There is a difference between private meetings of party members as in the Maria Bailey case and public rallies designed to apply pressure and intimidation to other elected politicians.
That doesn't prevent you trying to conflate the two in a typical example of spin and misinformation.
Not my line, but it's a humdinger.
Posters like yourself whinge and complain at the thoughts of unknown bearded men directing and pulling strings in the background for the shinners.
Posters like you whinge and complain at the thoughts of them holding open and fully transparent meetings in hotels or hassle.
Perhaps posters like yourself just like to whinge and complain amir anything Shinner related, because that's their M.O:D
They've got the momentum behind them now, I see zero problems with them providing a platform for people to openly and transparently engage with the party higher ups, you might even consider going along yourself, might take the whinging and complaining out of your system.
Only two scenarios I see coming now are that FFG coalesce with a smaller party (socdems say no way, they won't play) and the greens don't sound too pushed, leaving the shinners as the main opposition party, I'd say they'll be content with that.
The other option is for the electorate to get back to the polling booths, the shinners can run more candidates, and with Leo and Michaél and many others just scraping over the line the last time, I don't think that's a road they will want to tread myself.
The shinners played a blinder in this, even the planned rallies is just an example of them being several steps ahead of the tired old has-beens who are seeing their vote erode steadily and surely.
The shinners have FFG over a barrel blanch, it's all your worst nightmares combined and rolled into one.0 -
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