FG to just do nothing for the next 5 years.

satguy

It seems FG will be very happy to just sit on their hands for 5 years. Would FG voters be happy with this, as it means all those FG votes mean nothing, and do nothing.

Having been in power for 9 years, they did nothing, people have no homes, people still on trollies.

FG may have given some of their rich buddies some tax breaks.

But other than that, they did what FG do best, are their poor hands not numb by now.

Bullocks

satguy wrote: »

It seems FG will be very happy to just sit on their hands for 5 years. Would FG voters be happy with this, as it means all those FG votes mean nothing, and do nothing.

Having been in power for 9 years, they did nothing, people have no homes, people still on trollies.

FG may have given some of their rich buddies some tax breaks.

But other than that, they did what FG do best, are their poor hands not numb by now.

They will be in opposition, the same as SF have been forever and FF the last 2 terms. Votes will have meant the same as previous votes for people in opposition.
If I was Leo I would be happy to sit back and wait for SF to take over for a term

loyatemu

it won't be 5 years.

Tacitus Kilgore

What is an opposition supposed to do?

BattleCorp

loyatemu wrote: »

it won't be 5 years.

Correct.

The next cobbled together government will fall apart quicker than a Chinese motorbike.

McMurphy

loyatemu wrote: »

it won't be 5 years.

The way the vote share of the big two keeps being eroded, it could be longer if they don't buck up their ideas.

Tin Foil Hat

loyatemu wrote: »

it won't be 5 years.

It'll barely be five months.

Del2005

satguy wrote: »

It seems FG will be very happy to just sit on their hands for 5 years. Would FG voters be happy with this, as it means all those FG votes mean nothing, and do nothing.

Having been in power for 9 years, they did nothing, people have no homes, people still on trollies.

FG may have given some of their rich buddies some tax breaks.

But other than that, they did what FG do best, are their poor hands not numb by now.

FG can do what the others have done for the last 11 years. Sit back and let someone else take the flak for issues beyond their control. The parties that did well in the GE have controlled loads of councils for years yet they've done nothing to revolve the issues either.

Cina

SF will f*ck the country up long before then.

Yurt2

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0212/1114778-varadkar-election/

Well, Leo appears to want to take his opportunity to formally transform FG into the Irish Tories. Good luck to him. We can finally dispense with the pretence that FG were or are ever going to make serious attempts to change how housing provision is structured in this country. Plenty of foreboding Thatcherite warnings about Leninists coming for the family silver.

This was always Leo, he just had to put a sock in it to be somewhat appealing outside a few leafy suburbs of Dublin.

satguy

Parties that loose a GE are sent into opposition, usually against their will.

But FG are jumping into those opposition seats so fast, it's a wonder they haven't pushed anyone over yet.
Someone could get hurt and end up on a trolly, until Mary Lou gets them a bed.

Yurt2

True dat. It was always a snipe at the left that they run from government.

Well, check out Leo trying out to figure out what to do what all the free time he now has when the floor hasn't even been swept in the RDS count centre.

Peatys

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

What is an opposition supposed to do?

Make unrealistic promises.. worked for ff and sf

Tacitus Kilgore

Peatys wrote: »

Make unrealistic promises.. worked for ff and sf

I mean opposition by definition is hurling from the ditch, why are people surprised that FG will do same as every other opposition party ever?

FionnB

satguy wrote: »

It seems FG will be very happy to just sit on their hands for 5 years. Would FG voters be happy with this, as it means all those FG votes mean nothing, and do nothing.

Having been in power for 9 years, they did nothing, people have no homes, people still on trollies.

FG may have given some of their rich buddies some tax breaks.

But other than that, they did what FG do best, are their poor hands not numb by now.

I think you'll find that most people do have homes.

Plumbthedepths

Peatys wrote: »

Make unrealistic promises.. worked for ff and sf

Like FG's promise to abolish USC in 2016? I can list others if you like.
Here's a real shocker all political parties tell lies, we as an electorate have grown used to it.

whippet

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Like FG's promise to abolish USC in 2016? I can list others if you like.
Here's a real shocker all political parties tell lies, we as an electorate have grown used to it.

And if SF get in to their ministries they will do the exact same. They will roll out the excuses and blame and blame .. more whataboutery which they are already well versed.

SF never expected to be in this position so their manifesto was never realistic. They will no need to find some fall guys to take the heat when it all goes belly up

Fr_Dougal

It’s gas. Posters like the OP vote for SF and then complain that FG won’t be in power.

SF voters don’t seem at all happy that SF will be in government.

Yurt2

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

I mean opposition by definition is hurling from the ditch, why are people surprised that FG will do same as every other opposition party ever?

It's funny because Leo is now relishing his place on the ditch and and is busy picking out a comfy spot.

For a man that was apparently so enthusiastic to be Taoiseach a few short days ago, he's given up the ghost fairly handy when there is a clear viable FG/FF option on the table.

If SF are such a grave danger to the state, it's surely incumbent on Leo the patriot to get talking with amenable partners to form a government that excludes them in the national interest.

Wanderer78

satguy wrote:

But other than that, they did what FG do best, are their poor hands not numb by now.

Do they give a bollocks what we think!

Plumbthedepths

whippet wrote: »

And if SF get in to their ministries they will do the exact same. They will roll out the excuses and blame and blame .. more whataboutery which they are already well versed.

SF never expected to be in this position so their manifesto was never realistic. They will no need to find some fall guys to take the heat when it all goes belly up

I find it funny people expect any difference tbh. I remember a line from the former FG TD Regina Doherty "who reads manifestos?".
Btw based on the numbers unless FF change their position SF ain't going to be in government.
New election is my guess unless of course FG comes back onto the pitch with FF and a.n.other party.

Fr_Dougal

Yurt! wrote: »

It's funny because Leo is now relishing his place on the ditch and and is busy picking out a comfy spot.

For a man that was apparently so enthusiastic to be Taoiseach a few short days ago, he's given up the ghost fairly handy when there is a clear viable FG/FF option on the table.

If SF are such a grave danger to the state, it's surely incumbent on Leo the patriot to get talking with amenable partners to form a government that excludes them in the national interest.

Of the 3 leading parties, FG had the least votes. It’s not up to FG to try and form a government with the two larger parties when they would be a minority partner.

SF & FF are calling the shots here.

satguy

satguy wrote: »

Having been in power for 9 years, they did nothing, people have no homes, people still on trollies.

I think you will find the country is much better place than it was 9 years ago!

the majority of people do have homes:rolleyes:
and yes, health system is not good, but it has been the same way for as long as I remember, lets hope Slaintecare, which everyone has signed up to, sorts things out

satguy

satguy wrote: »

Having been in power for 9 years, they did nothing, people have no homes, people still on trollies.

I think you will find the country is much better place than it was 9 years ago!

the majority of people do have homes:rolleyes:
and yes, health system is not good, but it has been the same way for as long as I remember, lets hope Slaintecare, which everyone has signed up to, sorts things out

Yurt2

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Of the 3 leading parties, FG had the least votes. It’s not up to FG to try and form a government with the two larger parties when they would be a minority partner.

SF & FF are calling the shots here.

All the noises from Leo is that he's content on the opposition benches. This isn't Fine Gael playing hard to get.

You can clearly see other smaller parties making moves and staking out other's positions. Evreyone is in the mix to form a coalition - except Leo who has more or less told everyone he's off for a nap.

Fann Linn

Yurt! wrote: »

All the noises from Leo is that he's content on the opposition benches. This isn't Fine Gael playing hard to get.

You can clearly see other smaller parties making moves and staking out other's positions. Evreyone is in the mix to form a coalition - except Leo who has more or less told everyone he's off for a nap.

And leave them to it.
They've done enough damage.

Fann Linn

Yurt! wrote: »

All the noises from Leo is that he's content on the opposition benches. This isn't Fine Gael playing hard to get.

You can clearly see other smaller parties making moves and staking out other's positions. Evreyone is in the mix to form a coalition - except Leo who has more or less told everyone he's off for a nap.

And leave them to it.
They've done enough damage.

Fr_Dougal

Yurt! wrote: »

All the noises from Leo is that he's content on the opposition benches. This isn't Fine Gael playing hard to get.

You can clearly see other smaller parties making moves and staking out other's positions. Evreyone is in the mix to form a coalition - except Leo who has more or less told everyone he's off for a nap.

He posted up the number of new builds on twitter yesterday and was absolutely hammered for it, Twitter users told him to go way that he and FG were done.

The two larger parties have not contacted FG seeking to form a government, nothing he can do.

The electorate have voted for change, let them have change. If anything he’s being gracious in defeat.

Now it’s time for SF to shine, let them deliver on the promises they made to their voters.

Fred Cryton

McMurphy wrote: »

The way the vote share of the big two keeps being eroded, it could be longer if they don't buck up their ideas.

Next election FF and FG will run fewer candidates , maybe around 70 instead of 80. As a result they will both get more TD's elected due to fewer split votes. In addition, SF will run more candidates which will simply result in fewer PBP, SocDems, greens and Labour in the Dail.



We have just witnessed the very peak of SF support. Is there really anyone out there who will vote SF in the future who didn't at this election? Very much doubt it.

Necro

bubblypop wrote:

I think you will find the country is much better place than it was 9 years ago!

Its not even worth trying to point that out.

Short term foolish politics is now becoming intrinsically part of Ireland

Nobody remembers the good things anymore it's always the bad.

storker

Peatys wrote: »

Make unrealistic promises.. worked for ff and sf

And FG.

"Not another red cent"
"I will end the scandal of patients on trolleys"