Jinglejangle69 wrote: » Are you for real? There is a thread named: Are FG gonna sit by and do noting for 5 years!! Started and lauded by SF supporters!!!
satguy wrote: » It seems FG will be very happy to just sit on their hands for 5 years. Would FG voters be happy with this, as it means all those FG votes mean nothing, and do nothing. Having been in power for 9 years, they did nothing, people have no homes, people still on trollies. FG may have given some of their rich buddies some tax breaks. But other than that, they did what FG do best, are their poor hands not numb by now.
Are SF supporters still outraged FG won't form a after years of trying to get them out of government! Couldn't make it up I swear!!
McMurphy wrote: » It appears you actually could, and just did. I hear a lot of people insinuating this, but can you link me to an example of Sinn Fein, complaining that FG won't go back into govt? Just because you keep repeating something over and over and over again, doesn't make it true.
blanch152 wrote: » The only tantrums I see are from one party threatening to hold rallies to undermine our democracy.
UDAWINNER wrote: » how the fcuk does a public rally undermine democracy and then you defend the MI5 agent who actually did undermine our democracy.
Suckit wrote: » I asked the same question to the same poster on another thread. Haven't seen or heard one example of it. But that isn't surprising really. The same people that are backing this lot, would love to have people believe it. To put that into context, their 'competition' - FF, who had brought the country to it's knees, and SF with all of the links to a sordid past and connections with the IRA, all FG had to do really, was turn up. Fianna Fail, less than 10 years ago were undoubtedly the most hated party in the country, nobody could every imagine voting for them again. The Greens weren't liked much either. SF, were never really a party that anyone could vote for, not a majority anyway. They have after all (as is pointed out a billion times a day) lay in bed with the IRA, they probably killed Shergar using the sawn off legs of the victims that Mary Lou shot in her bathroom, nobody could every vote for them. So FG it is. 9 years later, they have done nothing. Not only that, but four of the people in that photo above been the main reason that FG had their worst election results since 1948 - their 2nd worst ever in their existence, but they did it on the back of the country feeling the way they did about the other parties. As a result the Greens found themselves having a great election. Sinn Fein - The party that killed a million people and painted the streets with their guts, received an overwhelming show of support in almost every constituency that they ran in. Fianna Fail equaled them in seats. Fine Gael pottered about stuttering and pointing at everyone else trying to figure out which of the other parties were to blame. All they have been capable of saying (even with similar seats and responsibilities) is 'the onus is on them' before crawling back into their hole. I personally can't understand why any FG voters would want them back in, with the damage that they have done to the party, let alone anyone affiliated to or that would vote for, SF. So - Nope, It is highly unlikely the "SF supporters still outraged FG won't form a government". It has to have been blind politics/voting that got Harris and Murphy back in, even Varadkar and Madigan got back in, although they didn't have an easy ride in the election either, yet they and the posters here seem to keep pointing out that a shoe could have run as an SF candidate and would have got in. All the while not looking at themselves as a, or the possible reason for that, nor at their voters being guilty of the same thing. They truly are an odious bunch. Personally, I think they are about to do a lot more damage, unfortunately it will be us, the 'plebs' that feel the brunt of it, and their own party will also undoubtedly rightly suffer. And if/when Varadkar & co are finally handed their notice, they'll walk into some other job, most likely in return for some of the many favours they have done while ignoring the important things that needed fixing. 'But SF are linked with the IRA', 'The guy sang the RA song', 'Mary Lou is fat', 'MLMcD has a voice like a foghorn' Luckily they are here to make sure everyone is aware of the facts.
smurgen wrote: » Does anyone know if Eoghan Murphy is still in the country? College students protesting in light of the rent raises and he hasn't met reps.
markodaly wrote: » Why dont O'Broin meet them? Sure he has all the answers as the future minister of housing. SF want to abolish fees right, so where will Universities make up the difference.? Answers on a postcard Also, its quite funny that two weeks after the election, that we have people still giving out about FG ministers today when they effectively have no power or no say.
all about the mane wrote: » O’Brion is too busy forming the next government...oh wait...
smurgen wrote: » He is meeting themhttps://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/sinn-feins-eoin-o-broin-21515706
markodaly wrote: » Lovely, as future housing minister I am sure he has all the answers. No fees, cheap accommodation, no property tax and so on..
smurgen wrote: » He is meeting them.now what's Murphy's excuse?
all about the mane wrote: » What’s he meeting them for?
Suckit wrote: » you are wondering why a politician is meeting with people about rent rising?
all about the mane wrote: » Yes
Suckit wrote: » If you need something like that explained in the current environment, then nit pick away, but don't expect any answers. I can't imagine that anyone would be really bothered to answer inane questions like that. However, I thought it was a fair question wondering why the outgoing minister of housing hasn't yet agreed to meet them. Does he assume he has washed his hands of it all? Having done nothing while in there and was no doubt facing a vote of no confidence, I would think it would be in his better interests to go and talk. But I expect the coward to run. Couldn't face them.
all about the mane wrote: » We all know why O’Brion is really meeting them
Suckit wrote: » We all know why Murphy isn't meeting them
all about the mane wrote: » Because he’s not looking for a photo op
Suckit wrote: » Because he doesn't have the balls to go out and face anyone knowing how incompetent he has been and wouldn't be able to give them any answers
all about the mane wrote: » And O’Brion will have answers
Suckit wrote: » Why would O'Broin have answers for Eoghan Murphys incompetence?
all about the mane wrote: » I’d say you are confused a lot. Don’t worry about it. O’Brion will tell you what you want to hear. It’s what SF are best at
Suckit wrote: » Don't think it's me that is confused. You aren't sure why a newly elected politician would meet staff about rent prices rising, but you think he would have answers about the previous ministers reasons for being incompetent.. I'm sure all this typing is hurting your head, time for bed try not to hurt yourself too much.
McMurphy wrote: » https://twitter.com/EOBroin/status/1231551788823842816?s=19
McMurphy wrote: » What's petty about providing a platform for members of the electorate, many/some of whom may have voted for you, to openly engage/discuss/query things with senior members of the party? We know other party's do it among themselves (the last big one I heard about in FG circles was the Halloween night one, where Maria Bailey was shafted) Won't be going to any of them myself, but the reasoning behind it is sound.
McMurphy wrote: » As far as I can tell - they're completely open, and free for anyone to attend, no need to assume, go along and find out. Basically put up or shut up. Had the shinners ran a high profile campaign of wanting to flush out cheats, you'd maybe be on to something, but as it stands I never even heard of the woman before the election, and have zero problems at all with calling for her to be taken off the ticket should another election be called. Hopefully that addresses your concerns.
Yurt! wrote: » ^^^Exhibit A. I'm not even sure what you're on about here - but I've already filed it away as nonsense. Like I said, silly season from the supporters of the likes of FG.
smurgen wrote: » Public rallies undermining our democracy.jesus wept I've heard it all now.
blanch152 wrote: » Real example of misinformation. There is a difference between private meetings of party members as in the Maria Bailey case and public rallies designed to apply pressure and intimidation to other elected politicians. That doesn't prevent you trying to conflate the two in a typical example of spin and misinformation.
