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Lisa Smith home.

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    #152
    tuxy
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    HorrorScope wrote: »
    Will you be as staunch about her “rights” when she blows herself up in a shopping mall or encourages some like minded ****wit to do so?

    Sounds like you have some info the Garda would be interested in.


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    #153
    HorrorScope
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    tuxy wrote: »
    Sounds like you have some info the Garda would be interested in.

    Well I’m sure if the Gardai used google they could find out themselves what these ISIS vermin like doing


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    #154
    end of the road
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    HorrorScope wrote: »
    Will you be as staunch about her “rights” when she blows herself up in a shopping mall or encourages some like minded ****wit to do so?

    if she blows herself up she won't be around so it will be impossible to be staunch about anything in relation to her.
    if she encourages someone else to blow themselves up then she will be subject to the law of the land and rightly so.
    tuxy wrote: »
    Exactly I don't know why people are now so keep to recognise IS as a legitimate state.
    To legally denounce Irish citizenship or have it legally removed under international law she would have to be a citizen of another legitimate county.
    It's illegal to try to make yourself stateless or have it forced on you.

    agreed.
    even then, i wonder as to whether a country of who one is a primary citizen, stripping that citizen of their citizenship based on them having dual nationality, could be questionable legally?

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #155
    jmreire
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    HorrorScope wrote: »
    Will you be as staunch about her “rights” when she blows herself up in a shopping mall or encourages some like minded ****wit to do so?

    No one is "Defending Lisa's Right's".......the right's that are being defended in this discussion are the same rights that protect you and me and every other Irish Citizen. That's what is being defended. Whether Lisa return's to this Country or not, it's not a guarantee that we will ( or will not) ever have an isis attack...ever. As it is Ireland is too use full to isis or any other terrorist grouping as a staging / logistic / money laundering Country, and as such the last thing they need is to be put under the spotlight an attack would bring.


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    #156
    end of the road
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    HorrorScope wrote: »
    Well I’m sure if the Gardai used google they could find out themselves what these ISIS vermin like doing


    they already know.
    however, they need evidence that lisa smith was involved in something that could be a breach of irish law, even if committed abroad.
    or, that she may be planning to do something going forward.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #157
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
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    ted1 wrote: »
    Nor defending here as such but realising that weather we like it or not she’s an Irish citizen

    When she chose to turn her back on her country and become enemy number one she should have had it revoked. Tough tits whore.


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    #158
    tuxy
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    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    When she chose to turn her back on her country and become enemy number one she should have had it revoked. Tough tits whore.

    How would that work exactly?


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    #159
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
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    tuxy wrote: »
    How would that work exactly?

    It would work like this.

    Sorry bitch, tough luck, enjoy the desert.


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    #160
    tuxy
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    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    It would work like this.

    Sorry bitch, tough luck, enjoy the desert.

    But in the real world, not as a bull**** internet post.
    How would it work? Expand on your idea.


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    #161
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
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    tuxy wrote: »
    But in the real world, not as a bull**** internet post.
    How would it work? Expand on your idea.

    She turned her back on her country. She would have us all murdered by her ideology and not bat an eyelid. She is a traitor to her country. How much has it cost us, you and me, to bring her home already, how much will it cost us to keep her safe for the rest of her life. Tens of millions. What day did we get in this? None. She should have been told to make her own way back, tough luck, if you manage to somehow get back here well you’ll be dealt with at that time.


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    #162
    end of the road
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    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    It would work like this.

    Sorry bitch, tough luck, enjoy the desert.


    and when the desert's government decides to deport her anyway and we end up still having to take her back?

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #163
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
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    end of the road wrote: »
    and when the desert's government decides to deport her anyway and we end up still having to take her back?

    Great. Didn’t cost anything. Try her and jail her.


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    #164
    tuxy
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    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    She turned her back on her country. She would have us all murdered by her ideology and not bat an eyelid. She is a traitor to her country. How much has it cost us, you and me, to bring her home already, how much will it cost us to keep her safe for the rest of her life. Tens of millions. What day did we get in this? None. She should have been told to make her own way back, tough luck, if you manage to somehow get back here well you’ll be dealt with at that time.

    It's in Turkeys hands, realistically what could Ireland do if Turkey decide to deport her?
    What is the exact crime she committed and where is the evidence of said crime.
    Unless you are talking about a vigilante group when you say "dealt" with, unless you are planning to form such a group it may never happen.


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    #165
    end of the road
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    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    She turned her back on her country. She would have us all murdered by her ideology and not bat an eyelid. She is a traitor to her country. How much has it cost us, you and me, to bring her home already, how much will it cost us to keep her safe for the rest of her life. Tens of millions. What day did we get in this? None. She should have been told to make her own way back, tough luck, if you manage to somehow get back here well you’ll be dealt with at that time.


    that's not an answer as to how your original idea would work though.
    this is not something we would get a say in and that is correct. citizens have to go back to their countries of origin to protect the world as a whole.
    the costs are irrelevant, paying them is just tough to keep both ireland safe and the rest of the world.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #166
    tuxy
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    Perhaps Ireland should introduce an internment system, would that make people happy?


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    #167
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
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    tuxy wrote: »
    Perhaps Ireland should introduce an internment system, would that make people happy?

    What would make you happy? Does bringing back this terrorist and setting her up for life make you happy? Let’s talk punishment.


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    #168
    tuxy
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    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    Let’s talk punishment.

    Let's, what crime can she be convicted of and what is the punishment for such a conviction?


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    #169
    Etc
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    So she's home, let's see what she says in the inevitable book,

    "ISIS, my part in it's downfall"

    It'll transpire that Shuhada Davitt has been her handler and from the inside out, they embarrassed ISIS into submission.

    Expect her to contact Michealla Mcollum on how to spin a story into a few quid.


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    #170
    tuxy
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    Etc wrote: »
    So she's home, let's see what she says in the inevitable book,

    If she is then why is the UN so concerned for her safety in Turkey, she can't be in two places at once.


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    #171
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
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    tuxy wrote: »
    Let's, what crime can she be convicted of and what is the punishment for such a conviction?

    What we know.

    Treason
    Involvement in a terrorist Organisation.
    Supporting and aiding muderous acts.

    What don’t we know?


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    #172
    tuxy
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    No proof that IS specifically targeted Ireland, I don't recall any acts of terror that they carried out on this Island. So that is treason gone.
    Do you have proof of murderous acts that she has committed in Ireland? I think we can rule that one out two.

    Perhaps she is guilty of something under the terrorism act but what are the punishment guidelines for such an offence?


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    #173
    Etc
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    tuxy wrote: »
    If she is then why is the UN so concerned for her safety in Turkey, she can't be in two places at once.

    So, tracking individual refugees is a science ?


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    #174
    tuxy
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    Etc wrote: »
    So, tracking individual refugees is a science ?

    You say she is home and the UN say she is in Turkey, I'm not sure which I believe.


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    #175
    ted1
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    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    When she chose to turn her back on her country and become enemy number one she should have had it revoked. Tough tits whore.

    Who declared her enemy number one ?
    rue Looney left are far more of a danger.

    There’s far more dangerous threats in Ireland


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    #176
    un5byh7sqpd2x0
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    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Whose apology?

    Read back a few pages, you will figure it out.


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    #177
    jmreire
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    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    What we know.

    Treason
    Involvement in a terrorist Organisation.
    Supporting and aiding muderous acts.

    What don’t we know?

    What we know and what we can prove are two different things....she is presently under investigation for any breaches of the Law's of Ireland. (What Law's she has broken abroad is relevant ) and has been for quite a long time, which is one of the reason's I think that she did not grab at the chance to come home when she was first offered it when in Ain-Issa camp. So if the Guard's can come up with a case against her, she will have her day in court, and then we will see where that takes her. What you ,I and the rest of the Country think's about Lisa Smith will not matter one whit. Unless she is tried by a jury, in which case, the verdict will be one of the fastest in Irish Legal history.


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    #178
    adrian92
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    I would ask the moderator to ask everyone to not use such language, which are not in accordance with this forum - there is no room, I would have thought, for violent language. Perhaps, there is no room for a degree of moderate language. We are, and have been, through quite a long, difficult time


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    #179
    bmcc10
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    You would not be surprised..


    http://irelandoncraic.com/dundalk/?fbclid=IwAR02AgGWWyLqxq-Tg5WoYXV1l9eqWkn37HEdBphWhAj3nAEsDAxKgLK9joc


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    #180
    Fritzbox
    Registered Users Posts: 490 ✭✭Fritzbox


    jmayo wrote: »
    Bamboo airlines are Far Eastern airline, Vietnam I think.

    I don't think a western company would name their airline "Bamboo Airlines" would they?


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    #181
    AlekSmart
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    bmcc10 wrote: »
    You would not be surprised..


    http://irelandoncraic.com/dundalk/?fbclid=IwAR02AgGWWyLqxq-Tg5WoYXV1l9eqWkn37HEdBphWhAj3nAEsDAxKgLK9joc

    Dundalk could be on a winner here.....a double header..Jim Corr & Lisa Smith to hit the switch together....The eyes and ears of the World would be on the town !!!

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-12268558

    :D


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



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