Lisa Smith home.

jmayo

From what I hear no Lisa, but there were passengers on board.

jmayo

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Maybe it was carrying your vodka oranges

Who are bamboo airlines

Bamboo airlines are Far Eastern airline, Vietnam I think.

vicwatson

I reckon it was Paul Kehoe, he likes his luxury

vicwatson

jmayo wrote: »

Bamboo airlines are Far Eastern airline, Vietnam I think.

Yes Vietnamese

weldoninhio

whippet wrote: »

from your link



so .... when she joined ISIS ... did she levy war against the republic of ireland ? If not then Treason isn't an offence she is guilty of

ISIS did release a document stating that Ireland was one of the countries it wanted to attack, no? Seem to remember a video or something with our flag in it.

https://www.joe.ie/news/video-alleged-isis-video-appears-to-show-ireland-in-the-coalition-of-devils-521103

Found it, we were part of the coalition of devils that ISIS wanted to destroy.

Elemonator

kravmaga wrote: »

I didn't think the runway at Baldonnel would be long enough to take an A320.

Why would the Irish gov charter an aircraft this size to repatriate just 2 persons?

The runway in Baldonnel is plenty long for commercial jets. Jets operate off similar runways everyday, such as London Southend.

She will probably be charged under the Offences Against The State Act 1939.

jmreire

Why would anyone travel from Turkey ( Where Lisa is being kept is under Turkish control) to Beirut in Lebanon to get flight back to Ireland, when there are daily flights ( Turkish Air, for one) from Istanbul direct to Dublin Airport??? And charted a whole jet exclusively for Lisa, her Daughter and the team which went out to escort her back?

jmreire

New's now! Concern is being expressed now to the Government that Lisa may be ill treated where she is being held while waiting repatriation. So Baldonnel was / is a false alarm

AlekSmart

jmreire wrote: »

New's now! Concern is being expressed now to the Government that Lisa may be ill treated where she is being held while waiting repatriation. So Baldonnel was / is a false alarm

Expressed by whom ?

HorrorScope

jmreire wrote: »

New's now! Concern is being expressed now to the Government that Lisa may be ill treated where she is being held while waiting repatriation. So Baldonnel was / is a false alarm

Who’s expressing the concerns? That would be brilliant if it’s true.

whippet

weldoninhio wrote: »

ISIS did release a document stating that Ireland was one of the countries it wanted to attack, no? Seem to remember a video or something with our flag in it.

https://www.joe.ie/news/video-alleged-isis-video-appears-to-show-ireland-in-the-coalition-of-devils-521103

Found it, we were part of the coalition of devils that ISIS wanted to destroy.

I’m no constitutional lawyer but I’m not sure a quote from joe.ie saying apparently a random video shows an Irish flag with a veiled threat would be enough to lead to a conviction ... let alone the DPP recommending proceeding with charges.

So I stand over my point that this argument that she should be arrested and locked away immediately upon her return is nonsense and serves no purpose.

I still find her actions reprehensible and if she is guilty of any law in Ireland she should be charged

Stovepipe

I find it more than a little ironic that people are railing against Lisa Smith as a traitor / terrorist,etc when Ireland has a long history of allowing the IRA / INLA and a host of other terrorists to walk around freely in the Republic and tolerating their murderous acts against our neighbouring country and against Irish people in Northern Ireland and giving them air time . Their remnants are still committing acts of terror in the Republic and NI. LS has committed no crime against the Irish Republic, the Defence Forces or anyone else in this country, yet, by a technicality, she's still a citizen, despite having joined a known terrorist organisation and her child is also now a citizen. I thought the Govt had cracked down on instant citizenships, considering the child was born to a non-Irish father in a foreign country. Personally, I'd leave her to rot, as she volunteered in a normal state of mind to do what she did and must live with the consequences.

whippet

One mans terrorist is another mans hero ... parts of the republican movement committed some outrageous acts against the state and yet they are walking the streets ... forgiven of their crimes .. yet some of these criminal sympathisers reckon she should be lynched when there is no evidence of her committing any crime

un5byh7sqpd2x0

I await your apology.

Whose apology?

end of the road

Stovepipe wrote: »

I find it more than a little ironic that people are railing against Lisa Smith as a traitor / terrorist,etc when Ireland has a long history of allowing the IRA / INLA and a host of other terrorists to walk around freely in the Republic and tolerating their murderous acts against our neighbouring country and against Irish people in Northern Ireland and giving them air time . Their remnants are still committing acts of terror in the Republic and NI. LS has committed no crime against the Irish Republic, the Defence Forces or anyone else in this country, yet, by a technicality, she's still a citizen, despite having joined a known terrorist organisation and her child is also now a citizen. I thought the Govt had cracked down on instant citizenships, considering the child was born to a non-Irish father in a foreign country. Personally, I'd leave her to rot, as she volunteered in a normal state of mind to do what she did and must live with the consequences.

there is no technicality.
she is a citizen because she is a citizen, she was born here.
+ international law quite rightly says that countries have an obligation to take back their criminals.

jmreire

HorrorScope wrote: »

Who’s expressing the concerns? That would be brilliant if it’s true.

( and for Alexsmart too )
The UN rapporteur on Human Right's are. They have contacted the Irish and Turkish Government's about their concerns for the well being of Lisa and her Daughter. They are asking on what ground's is Lisa still being held and if she is being interrogated, is she properly treated, and has access to Consular assistance?.
So there is more going on than meet's the eye. Originally, the hold up to Lisa's return was thought to be due to Lisa herself , but now it look's like Turkey is taking more than a passing interest in her. When (and IF) she come's home, I think that it will be on a normal commercial flight, Istanbul direct to Dublin. With no advance publicity, who would be the wiser? Thousands of passengers pass through Dublin Airport every day. One Hijab clad woman and small child, accompanied by 2 or 3 casually dressed men, who would even give them a 2nd glance? Unless the new's of her home coming flight was leaked before hand, they would be off the plane, through passport and customs control, collect the baggage and be whisked away by a nondescript car. All well planned in advance, hidden in plain sight. Job done!!

SaintLeibowitz

Eric Cartman wrote: »

We live in a world where the same people that champion trials convicting 90 year olds to prison for being cooks and cleaners in concentration camps for the nazis are defending a woman who actively volountarily gave herself to isis and continues to defend their ideals

We also live in a world where nonsense above is written.

ted1

HorrorScope wrote: »

Nope but I do look forward to excoriating the next FG person to darken my door. Traitors to the country bringing this whore of ISIS back.

She’s an Irish citizen as much as you are. In a country with over 4 million citizens, you are bound to find a few people who you don’t agree with.

AlekSmart

jmreire wrote: »

( and for Alexsmart too )
The UN rapporteur on Human Right's are. They have contacted the Irish and Turkish Government's about their concerns for the well being of Lisa and her Daughter. They are asking on what ground's is Lisa still being held and if she is being interrogated, is she properly treated, and has access to Consular assistance?.
So there is more going on than meet's the eye. Originally, the hold up to Lisa's return was thought to be due to Lisa herself , but now it look's like Turkey is taking more than a passing interest in her. When (and IF) she come's home, I think that it will be on a normal commercial flight, Istanbul direct to Dublin. With no advance publicity, who would be the wiser? Thousands of passengers pass through Dublin Airport every day. One Hijab clad woman and small child, accompanied by 2 or 3 casually dressed men, who would even give them a 2nd glance? Unless the new's of her home coming flight was leaked before hand, they would be off the plane, through passport and customs control, collect the baggage and be whisked away by a nondescript car. All well planned in advance, hidden in plain sight. Job done!!

Rapporteur.....sounds important alright......:eek:

Thank God for the Internet....

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/rapporteur

someone chosen by an organization to prepare reports of meetings or to investigate and report on a problem

Phew.....and here was me thinking it was like a Grand Jury or something :rolleyes:

I suppose I could claim to be a Rapporteur for a few posters,contacting the same Governments about our concerns about our well-being,should Mz Smith still adhere to her chosen beliefs,and combine them with her previous weapons training at Irish public expense.

The Turks might listen to my Rapportage a bit better than Rialtais nh hEireann though....:(

Richard Hillman

ted1 wrote: »

She’s an Irish citizen as much as you are. In a country with over 4 million citizens, you are bound to find a few people who you don’t agree with.

No she is not. She joined a foreign army who's ultimate goal was to encompass Ireland into its caliphate under the ISIS Flag and leader. She is treasonous.

ted1

Richard Hillman wrote: »

No she is not. She joined a foreign army who's ultimate goal was to encompass Ireland into its caliphate under the ISIS Flag and leader. She is treasonous.

And what about people who joined the British or American army?
I really don’t think their ultimate goal was to ecompass Ireland.

She was a pawn far from a high ranking officer. I think people campaigners for IREXIT are a bigger threat

RocketRaccoon

People are really defending this scumbag gutter rat? Really??? Hopefully she gets hit by a bus and dragged around the street.

jmreire

AlekSmart wrote: »

Rapporteur.....sounds important alright......:eek:

Thank God for the Internet....

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/rapporteur

someone chosen by an organization to prepare reports of meetings or to investigate and report on a problem

Phew.....and here was me thinking it was like a Grand Jury or something :rolleyes:

I suppose I could claim to be a Rapporteur for a few posters,contacting the same Governments about our concerns about our well-being,should Mz Smith still adhere to her chosen beliefs,and combine them with her previous weapons training at Irish public expense.

The Turks might listen to my Rapportage a bit better than Rialtais nh hEireann though....:(

This was on RTE New's, so I'd say it's pretty genuine. But I would not under rate any of the UN "Special Rapporteur's ". In the Diplomatic Corp, they have clout,,,and plenty of it. It will resonate within the Turkish Government, Lisa is now a "Person of Interest" internationally ( if she was not before ), and it is noted within diplomatic circles. I'd be very surprised if she will be ill treated from now on ( what ever might have happened in the past ) and also I imagine that she will be home pretty soon now.

ted1

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

People are really defending this scumbag gutter rat? Really??? Hopefully she gets hit by a bus and dragged around the street.

Nor defending here as such but realising that weather we like it or not she’s an Irish citizen

HorrorScope

ted1 wrote: »

Nor defending here as such but realising that weather we like it or not she’s an Irish citizen

Ex-Irish citizen, traitor, whore extraordinaire and now a “refugee” from the failed Islamic state with her dead jihadi husbands crotch dropping in tow - regardless of what’s written on “official” paper or records she is not Irish anymore.

ted1

HorrorScope wrote: »

Ex-Irish citizen, traitor, whore extraordinaire and now a “refugee” from the failed Islamic state with her dead jihadi husbands crotch dropping in tow - regardless of what’s written on “official” paper or records she is not Irish anymore.

I don’t agree with you , should your citizenship be stripped ?

end of the road

Richard Hillman wrote: »

No she is not. She joined a foreign army who's ultimate goal was to encompass Ireland into its caliphate under the ISIS Flag and leader. She is treasonous.

yes she is .
she joined a foreign terrorist group, not an army.

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

People are really defending this scumbag gutter rat? Really??? Hopefully she gets hit by a bus and dragged around the street.

nope, nobody is defending or has defended her.

HorrorScope wrote: »

Ex-Irish citizen, traitor, whore extraordinaire and now a “refugee” from the failed Islamic state with her dead jihadi husbands crotch dropping in tow - regardless of what’s written on “official” paper or records she is not Irish anymore.

incorrect, she is a full and current irish citizen and will remain so. she is not a refugee and islamic state is not, will never be, and never was a state.
official records and papers and what is written on them is non-negotiable and what they say goes unless it vialates domestic, EU or international law.

HorrorScope

end of the road wrote: »

yes she is .
she joined a foreign terrorist group, not an army.




nope, nobody is defending or has defended her.



incorrect, she is a full and current irish citizen and will remain so. she is not a refugee and islamic state is not, will never be, and never was a state.
official records and papers and what is written on them is non-negotiable and what they say goes unless it vialates domestic, EU or international law.

Will you be as staunch about her “rights” when she blows herself up in a shopping mall or encourages some like minded ****wit to do so?

tuxy

end of the road wrote: »

yes she is .
she joined a foreign terrorist group, not an army.

Exactly I don't know why people are now so keep to recognise IS as a legitimate state.
To legally denounce Irish citizenship or have it legally removed under international law she would have to be a citizen of another legitimate county.
It's illegal to try to make yourself stateless or have it forced on you.