Lisa Smith home.

HorrorScope wrote: »

Will you be as staunch about her “rights” when she blows herself up in a shopping mall or encourages some like minded ****wit to do so?

if she blows herself up she won't be around so it will be impossible to be staunch about anything in relation to her.
if she encourages someone else to blow themselves up then she will be subject to the law of the land and rightly so.

tuxy wrote: »

Exactly I don't know why people are now so keep to recognise IS as a legitimate state.
To legally denounce Irish citizenship or have it legally removed under international law she would have to be a citizen of another legitimate county.
It's illegal to try to make yourself stateless or have it forced on you.

agreed.
even then, i wonder as to whether a country of who one is a primary citizen, stripping that citizen of their citizenship based on them having dual nationality, could be questionable legally?

jmreire

HorrorScope wrote: »

Will you be as staunch about her “rights” when she blows herself up in a shopping mall or encourages some like minded ****wit to do so?

No one is "Defending Lisa's Right's".......the right's that are being defended in this discussion are the same rights that protect you and me and every other Irish Citizen. That's what is being defended. Whether Lisa return's to this Country or not, it's not a guarantee that we will ( or will not) ever have an isis attack...ever. As it is Ireland is too use full to isis or any other terrorist grouping as a staging / logistic / money laundering Country, and as such the last thing they need is to be put under the spotlight an attack would bring.

HorrorScope wrote: »

Well I’m sure if the Gardai used google they could find out themselves what these ISIS vermin like doing

they already know.
however, they need evidence that lisa smith was involved in something that could be a breach of irish law, even if committed abroad.
or, that she may be planning to do something going forward.

ted1 wrote: »

Nor defending here as such but realising that weather we like it or not she’s an Irish citizen

When she chose to turn her back on her country and become enemy number one she should have had it revoked. Tough tits whore.

Hunky Monster wrote: »

When she chose to turn her back on her country and become enemy number one she should have had it revoked. Tough tits whore.

How would that work exactly?

tuxy wrote: »

How would that work exactly?

It would work like this.

Sorry bitch, tough luck, enjoy the desert.

Hunky Monster wrote: »

It would work like this.

Sorry bitch, tough luck, enjoy the desert.

But in the real world, not as a bull**** internet post.
How would it work? Expand on your idea.

tuxy wrote: »

But in the real world, not as a bull**** internet post.
How would it work? Expand on your idea.

She turned her back on her country. She would have us all murdered by her ideology and not bat an eyelid. She is a traitor to her country. How much has it cost us, you and me, to bring her home already, how much will it cost us to keep her safe for the rest of her life. Tens of millions. What day did we get in this? None. She should have been told to make her own way back, tough luck, if you manage to somehow get back here well you’ll be dealt with at that time.

Hunky Monster wrote: »

It would work like this.

Sorry bitch, tough luck, enjoy the desert.

and when the desert's government decides to deport her anyway and we end up still having to take her back?

end of the road wrote: »

and when the desert's government decides to deport her anyway and we end up still having to take her back?

Great. Didn’t cost anything. Try her and jail her.

Hunky Monster wrote: »

She turned her back on her country. She would have us all murdered by her ideology and not bat an eyelid. She is a traitor to her country. How much has it cost us, you and me, to bring her home already, how much will it cost us to keep her safe for the rest of her life. Tens of millions. What day did we get in this? None. She should have been told to make her own way back, tough luck, if you manage to somehow get back here well you’ll be dealt with at that time.

It's in Turkeys hands, realistically what could Ireland do if Turkey decide to deport her?
What is the exact crime she committed and where is the evidence of said crime.
Unless you are talking about a vigilante group when you say "dealt" with, unless you are planning to form such a group it may never happen.

Hunky Monster wrote: »

She turned her back on her country. She would have us all murdered by her ideology and not bat an eyelid. She is a traitor to her country. How much has it cost us, you and me, to bring her home already, how much will it cost us to keep her safe for the rest of her life. Tens of millions. What day did we get in this? None. She should have been told to make her own way back, tough luck, if you manage to somehow get back here well you’ll be dealt with at that time.

that's not an answer as to how your original idea would work though.
this is not something we would get a say in and that is correct. citizens have to go back to their countries of origin to protect the world as a whole.
the costs are irrelevant, paying them is just tough to keep both ireland safe and the rest of the world.

Perhaps Ireland should introduce an internment system, would that make people happy?

tuxy wrote: »

Perhaps Ireland should introduce an internment system, would that make people happy?

What would make you happy? Does bringing back this terrorist and setting her up for life make you happy? Let’s talk punishment.

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Let’s talk punishment.

Let's, what crime can she be convicted of and what is the punishment for such a conviction?

Etc

So she's home, let's see what she says in the inevitable book,

"ISIS, my part in it's downfall"

It'll transpire that Shuhada Davitt has been her handler and from the inside out, they embarrassed ISIS into submission.

Expect her to contact Michealla Mcollum on how to spin a story into a few quid.

Etc wrote: »

So she's home, let's see what she says in the inevitable book,

If she is then why is the UN so concerned for her safety in Turkey, she can't be in two places at once.

tuxy wrote: »

Let's, what crime can she be convicted of and what is the punishment for such a conviction?

What we know.

Treason
Involvement in a terrorist Organisation.
Supporting and aiding muderous acts.

What don’t we know?

No proof that IS specifically targeted Ireland, I don't recall any acts of terror that they carried out on this Island. So that is treason gone.
Do you have proof of murderous acts that she has committed in Ireland? I think we can rule that one out two.

Perhaps she is guilty of something under the terrorism act but what are the punishment guidelines for such an offence?

Etc

tuxy wrote: »

If she is then why is the UN so concerned for her safety in Turkey, she can't be in two places at once.

So, tracking individual refugees is a science ?