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Lisa Smith home.

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Has anyone heard that Lisa Smith was flown into Baldonnel on Tuesday?

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ted1

Hunky Monster wrote: »

When she chose to turn her back on her country and become enemy number one she should have had it revoked. Tough tits whore.

Who declared her enemy number one ?
rue Looney left are far more of a danger.

There’s far more dangerous threats in Ireland

tuxy

Etc wrote: »

So, tracking individual refugees is a science ?

You say she is home and the UN say she is in Turkey, I'm not sure which I believe.

Etc

tuxy wrote: »

If she is then why is the UN so concerned for her safety in Turkey, she can't be in two places at once.

So, tracking individual refugees is a science ?

tuxy

No proof that IS specifically targeted Ireland, I don't recall any acts of terror that they carried out on this Island. So that is treason gone.
Do you have proof of murderous acts that she has committed in Ireland? I think we can rule that one out two.

Perhaps she is guilty of something under the terrorism act but what are the punishment guidelines for such an offence?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

tuxy wrote: »

Let's, what crime can she be convicted of and what is the punishment for such a conviction?

What we know.

Treason
Involvement in a terrorist Organisation.
Supporting and aiding muderous acts.

What don’t we know?

tuxy

Etc wrote: »

So she's home, let's see what she says in the inevitable book,

If she is then why is the UN so concerned for her safety in Turkey, she can't be in two places at once.

Etc

So she's home, let's see what she says in the inevitable book,

"ISIS, my part in it's downfall"

It'll transpire that Shuhada Davitt has been her handler and from the inside out, they embarrassed ISIS into submission.

Expect her to contact Michealla Mcollum on how to spin a story into a few quid.

tuxy

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Let’s talk punishment.

Let's, what crime can she be convicted of and what is the punishment for such a conviction?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

tuxy wrote: »

Perhaps Ireland should introduce an internment system, would that make people happy?

What would make you happy? Does bringing back this terrorist and setting her up for life make you happy? Let’s talk punishment.

tuxy

Perhaps Ireland should introduce an internment system, would that make people happy?

end of the road

Hunky Monster wrote: »

She turned her back on her country. She would have us all murdered by her ideology and not bat an eyelid. She is a traitor to her country. How much has it cost us, you and me, to bring her home already, how much will it cost us to keep her safe for the rest of her life. Tens of millions. What day did we get in this? None. She should have been told to make her own way back, tough luck, if you manage to somehow get back here well you’ll be dealt with at that time.

that's not an answer as to how your original idea would work though.
this is not something we would get a say in and that is correct. citizens have to go back to their countries of origin to protect the world as a whole.
the costs are irrelevant, paying them is just tough to keep both ireland safe and the rest of the world.

tuxy

Hunky Monster wrote: »

She turned her back on her country. She would have us all murdered by her ideology and not bat an eyelid. She is a traitor to her country. How much has it cost us, you and me, to bring her home already, how much will it cost us to keep her safe for the rest of her life. Tens of millions. What day did we get in this? None. She should have been told to make her own way back, tough luck, if you manage to somehow get back here well you’ll be dealt with at that time.

It's in Turkeys hands, realistically what could Ireland do if Turkey decide to deport her?
What is the exact crime she committed and where is the evidence of said crime.
Unless you are talking about a vigilante group when you say "dealt" with, unless you are planning to form such a group it may never happen.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

end of the road wrote: »

and when the desert's government decides to deport her anyway and we end up still having to take her back?

Great. Didn’t cost anything. Try her and jail her.

end of the road

Hunky Monster wrote: »

It would work like this.

Sorry bitch, tough luck, enjoy the desert.

and when the desert's government decides to deport her anyway and we end up still having to take her back?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

tuxy wrote: »

But in the real world, not as a bull**** internet post.
How would it work? Expand on your idea.

She turned her back on her country. She would have us all murdered by her ideology and not bat an eyelid. She is a traitor to her country. How much has it cost us, you and me, to bring her home already, how much will it cost us to keep her safe for the rest of her life. Tens of millions. What day did we get in this? None. She should have been told to make her own way back, tough luck, if you manage to somehow get back here well you’ll be dealt with at that time.

tuxy

Hunky Monster wrote: »

It would work like this.

Sorry bitch, tough luck, enjoy the desert.

But in the real world, not as a bull**** internet post.
How would it work? Expand on your idea.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

tuxy wrote: »

How would that work exactly?

It would work like this.

Sorry bitch, tough luck, enjoy the desert.

tuxy

Hunky Monster wrote: »

When she chose to turn her back on her country and become enemy number one she should have had it revoked. Tough tits whore.

How would that work exactly?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

ted1 wrote: »

Nor defending here as such but realising that weather we like it or not she’s an Irish citizen

When she chose to turn her back on her country and become enemy number one she should have had it revoked. Tough tits whore.

end of the road

HorrorScope wrote: »

Well I’m sure if the Gardai used google they could find out themselves what these ISIS vermin like doing

they already know.
however, they need evidence that lisa smith was involved in something that could be a breach of irish law, even if committed abroad.
or, that she may be planning to do something going forward.

jmreire

HorrorScope wrote: »

Will you be as staunch about her “rights” when she blows herself up in a shopping mall or encourages some like minded ****wit to do so?

No one is "Defending Lisa's Right's".......the right's that are being defended in this discussion are the same rights that protect you and me and every other Irish Citizen. That's what is being defended. Whether Lisa return's to this Country or not, it's not a guarantee that we will ( or will not) ever have an isis attack...ever. As it is Ireland is too use full to isis or any other terrorist grouping as a staging / logistic / money laundering Country, and as such the last thing they need is to be put under the spotlight an attack would bring.

end of the road

HorrorScope wrote: »

Will you be as staunch about her “rights” when she blows herself up in a shopping mall or encourages some like minded ****wit to do so?

if she blows herself up she won't be around so it will be impossible to be staunch about anything in relation to her.
if she encourages someone else to blow themselves up then she will be subject to the law of the land and rightly so.

tuxy wrote: »

Exactly I don't know why people are now so keep to recognise IS as a legitimate state.
To legally denounce Irish citizenship or have it legally removed under international law she would have to be a citizen of another legitimate county.
It's illegal to try to make yourself stateless or have it forced on you.

agreed.
even then, i wonder as to whether a country of who one is a primary citizen, stripping that citizen of their citizenship based on them having dual nationality, could be questionable legally?

HorrorScope

tuxy wrote: »

Sounds like you have some info the Garda would be interested in.

Well I’m sure if the Gardai used google they could find out themselves what these ISIS vermin like doing

tuxy

HorrorScope wrote: »

Will you be as staunch about her “rights” when she blows herself up in a shopping mall or encourages some like minded ****wit to do so?

Sounds like you have some info the Garda would be interested in.

tuxy

end of the road wrote: »

yes she is .
she joined a foreign terrorist group, not an army.

Exactly I don't know why people are now so keep to recognise IS as a legitimate state.
To legally denounce Irish citizenship or have it legally removed under international law she would have to be a citizen of another legitimate county.
It's illegal to try to make yourself stateless or have it forced on you.

HorrorScope

end of the road wrote: »

yes she is .
she joined a foreign terrorist group, not an army.

nope, nobody is defending or has defended her.

incorrect, she is a full and current irish citizen and will remain so. she is not a refugee and islamic state is not, will never be, and never was a state.
official records and papers and what is written on them is non-negotiable and what they say goes unless it vialates domestic, EU or international law.

Will you be as staunch about her “rights” when she blows herself up in a shopping mall or encourages some like minded ****wit to do so?

end of the road

Richard Hillman wrote: »

No she is not. She joined a foreign army who's ultimate goal was to encompass Ireland into its caliphate under the ISIS Flag and leader. She is treasonous.

yes she is .
she joined a foreign terrorist group, not an army.

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

People are really defending this scumbag gutter rat? Really??? Hopefully she gets hit by a bus and dragged around the street.

nope, nobody is defending or has defended her.

HorrorScope wrote: »

Ex-Irish citizen, traitor, whore extraordinaire and now a “refugee” from the failed Islamic state with her dead jihadi husbands crotch dropping in tow - regardless of what’s written on “official” paper or records she is not Irish anymore.

incorrect, she is a full and current irish citizen and will remain so. she is not a refugee and islamic state is not, will never be, and never was a state.
official records and papers and what is written on them is non-negotiable and what they say goes unless it vialates domestic, EU or international law.

ted1

HorrorScope wrote: »

Ex-Irish citizen, traitor, whore extraordinaire and now a “refugee” from the failed Islamic state with her dead jihadi husbands crotch dropping in tow - regardless of what’s written on “official” paper or records she is not Irish anymore.

I don’t agree with you , should your citizenship be stripped ?

HorrorScope

ted1 wrote: »

Nor defending here as such but realising that weather we like it or not she’s an Irish citizen

Ex-Irish citizen, traitor, whore extraordinaire and now a “refugee” from the failed Islamic state with her dead jihadi husbands crotch dropping in tow - regardless of what’s written on “official” paper or records she is not Irish anymore.

ted1

RocketRaccoon wrote: »

People are really defending this scumbag gutter rat? Really??? Hopefully she gets hit by a bus and dragged around the street.

Nor defending here as such but realising that weather we like it or not she’s an Irish citizen