Achill asylum centre cancelled - mod warning in OP (01/11/19)

Beechwoodspark

Breaking news

Asylum seekers centre at Achill island cancelled

https://www.rte.ie/news/connacht/2019/1031/1087856-achill-asylum-seekers/

Fair play to the protestors. Oughterard protest also should take a bow. Well done.

Mod warning, 01/11/19:

Beasty wrote: »

If posters do not believe what others are saying, then it's fine to ask for backup. However if the poster does not provide backup then please move on. Readers of the threads can make up their own minds on the credentials of posters and any perceived "facts" they spout. There is no point though in going backwards and forwards incessantly on the same points. Please just agree to differ and move on, as if these threads just get stuck in the same ruts they will either be closed or posters will find themselves threadbanned (plus possible additional sanctions)

riemann

I'd be worried if I lived near an empty hotel.

Seems to be a few slyhawks with contacts in the Dept buying up these places on the cheap and getting a contract with the state to dump asylum seekers wherever will take them without even considering for one minute about the services available or talking to the local community.

If a town can't support a hotel it's hardly an ideal place.

malinheader

Common sense prevails once again.

alastair

Unsurprisingly the hotel business in Achill is pretty seasonal. The booking for the asylum seekers was for the off season.

Gatling

I'm sure someone will be along soon to tell us how upset they are about asylum seekers are not going to Achill

riffmongous

13 women for 3 months.. not seeing the big victory in this case

Beechwoodspark

Gatling wrote: »

I'm sure someone will be along soon to tell us how upset they are about asylum seekers are not going to Achill

But conveniently silent when asked if they would be ok with the asy seekers in their locality !

Absolute brazen hypocrisy from these virtue signallers.

alastair

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

But conveniently silent when asked if they would be ok with the asy seekers in their locality !

Absolute brazen hypocrisy from these virtue signallers.

That’s a remarkable story you’ve made up there.

US2

Starting to restore my faith in this country. Well done to the locals.

riffmongous

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

But conveniently silent when asked if they would be ok with the asy seekers in their locality !

Absolute brazen hypocrisy from these virtue signallers.

Ha, so says the fella who thinks that not being able to guarantee the safety of 13 women is a victory.

Arghus

I don't see 13 women being denied asylum for a maximum of three months as any kind of victory tbh.

James Brown

That'll learn them?

Arghus

Arghus wrote: »

I don't see 13 women being denied asylum for a maximum of three months as any kind of victory tbh.

Yesterday it was 30 men going there. Check mayo news.

Beechwoodspark

US2 wrote: »

Starting to restore my faith in this country. Well done to the locals.

Dead right

I hope all the “online keyboard warriors” realise this virtue signaling craic fools absolutely nobody.

Well done protestors.

terryduff12

Thought everyone in area was all for it

Gatling

alastair wrote: »

That’s a remarkable story you’ve made up there.

Not the worst story we've had now is it

Beechwoodspark

Yep looks like some sort of clumsy PR attempt from the department.

Up until lunchtime today it was 30 single men destined for Achill

Now since 5pm the press office are saying 13 women

Lads, this fake news craic does not work. Ppl these days are too media savvy.

pjohnson

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Dead right

I hope all the “online keyboard warriors” realise this virtue signaling craic fools absolutely nobody.

Well done protestors.

So you were at the protest fair play.

James Brown

TBF the song isn't "If you're Syrian, come into the parlor".

Nice to see a people with a history of being refugees themselves....something...

Varik

The morally superior on twitter must be having a fit.

Beechwoodspark

Varik wrote: »

The morally superior on twitter must be having a fit.

Why don’t they take in some of those asy seekers?

weldoninhio

Arghus wrote: »

I don't see 13 women being denied asylum for a maximum of three months as any kind of victory tbh.

Dramatic much? I doubt this will affect their status.

Gatling

Varik wrote: »

The morally superior on twitter must be having a fit.

We've a few of them in CA

jmayo

jmayo wrote: »

Watch Ringer.
He knows what side his bread is buttered and is wily old campaigner.

Indeed. Election coming.

Plan "shelved" according to RTE radio now.

They are talking about all women on the radio but an Achill local I work with was telling me it was supposed to be all men last week.

suicide_circus

Arghus wrote: »

I don't see 13 women being denied asylum for a maximum of three months as any kind of victory tbh.

the people of Achill appear to disagree

alastair

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Yep looks like some sort of clumsy PR attempt from the department.

Up until lunchtime today it was 30 single men destined for Achill

Now since 5pm the press office are saying 13 women

Lads, this fake news craic does not work. Ppl these days are too media savvy.

Nope - yesterday they were saying that the first asylum seekers, who were women, were due to arrive today, having been delayed following last week’s protests. So none of the above really holds water.

Beechwoodspark

alastair wrote: »

Nope - yesterday they were saying that the first asylum seekers, who were women, were due to arrive today, having been delayed following last week’s protests. So none of the above really holds water.

Not true.

Check Irish times and mayo news

I know you have an agenda but please realise there are ppl equally as media savvy as you on boards.

weldoninhio

Great to see this happen again. Hopefully this is a big talking point at the next election. The message at the door should be “YOU WORK FOR US, not the EU, not the NGOs.

alastair

suicide_circus wrote: »

the people of Achill appear to disagree

Aside from those who welcomed the asylum seekers of course.

Mickeroo

The locals weren't all that opposed to this. There was a lot of **** stirring by "concerned" oddballs with no connection to the area trying to get folks into a tizzy, which was very interesting to see first hand I have to say. A few of the more gullible folks got sucked in and protested, a similar amount of others were openly accepting of the idea, the vast majority of the island went about their lives and didn't give a ****.

alastair

weldoninhio wrote: »

Great to see this happen again. Hopefully this is a big talking point at the next election. The message at the door should be “YOU WORK FOR US, not the EU, not the NGOs.

Nothing here had the slightest to do with the EU or any NGO.

alastair

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Not true.

Check mayo news

I know you have an agenda but please realise there are ppl equally as media savvy as you on boards.

It’s true. Check the date there ‘savvy’.

https://www.mayonews.ie/news/34503-arrival-of-asylum-seekers-in-achill-further-delayed

zell12

Originally, the State had planned to house 38 men at the Achill Head Hotel at Pollagh, but changed their plans in the face of local opposition, though it is expected that all of the 38 places will be filled, including men.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/priest-s-plea-fails-to-stop-protests-over-leitrim-asylum-seeker-centre-plan-1.4067311

vriesmays

Those left-wing dopes in Waterford City will take them.

Sleeper12

Government afraid to anger the villagers with pitch forks so close to an election. Can't see FG forcing the issue in any part of Ireland this side of the election

Beechwoodspark

As graces7 suggested on the other thread

It appears they were hoping to change the mood by announcing a group of women instead of 30+ men as a way to get the foot in the door.

But it didn’t work thankfully

The likes of alister will have to realise they cannot bully and cajole communities to do their bidding

Beechwoodspark

zell12 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/priest-s-plea-fails-to-stop-protests-over-leitrim-asylum-seeker-centre-plan-1.4067311

“Originally, the State had planned to house 38 men at the Achill Head Hotel at Pollagh, but changed their plans in the face of local opposition, though it is expected that all of the 38 places will be filled, including men.”

I hereby call upon alister to apologise

alastair

alastair wrote: »

Nope - yesterday they were saying that the first asylum seekers, who were women, were due to arrive today, having been delayed following last week’s protests. So none of the above really holds water.

http://www.mayonews.ie/news/34471-agency-confirms-intention-to-house-38-males-in-achill-centre

not 30 but 38. Silly me.

weldoninhio

alastair wrote: »

Nothing here had the slightest to do with the EU or any NGO.

So the EU aren’t paying Ireland to take in “our share” of “asylum seekers”??

alastair

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

“Originally, the State had planned to house 38 men at the Achill Head Hotel at Pollagh, but changed their plans in the face of local opposition, though it is expected that all of the 38 places will be filled, including men.”

I hereby call upon alister to apologise

For what? - I’ve confirmed every detail of what I posted with an article from yesterday’s Mayo News.

alastair

weldoninhio wrote: »

So the EU aren’t paying Ireland to take in “our share” of “asylum seekers”??

No. They’re not.

Gatling

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

Indeed. Election coming.

Plan "shelved" according to RTE radio now.

They are talking about all women on the radio but an Achill local I work with was telling me it was supposed to be all men last week.

Trying for the sympathy vote by saying 13 women were to come

alastair

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

All these virtue signal fake news merchants are being found out on an hourly basis at this stage

Or your fabrications are being highlighted. Check the evidence.

Varik

Mickeroo wrote: »

The locals weren't all that opposed to this. There was a lot of **** stirring by "concerned" oddballs with no connection to the area trying to get folks into a tizzy, which was very interesting to see first hand I have to say. A few of the more gullible folks got sucked in and protested, a similar amount of others were openly accepting of the idea, the vast majority of the island went about their lives and didn't give a ****.

Whatever lies you've to tell yourself.

If it was only "a few", then the government would have ignored them and carried on.

Gatling

Can this thread be merged with the other one ?

alastair

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Alister. Apologise for your fake news. Accept this “operation” on achill didn’t work

As they say in mayo

Get up the yard ye clown!

Nothing fake about what I’ve posted. Unlike yourself.

Fann Linn

The Racist Map is getting larger. Roosky, Moville, Oughterard, Wicklow and now Achill.
Coleman and NT breakfast should be fun tomorrow.

James Brown

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

All these virtue signal fake news merchants are being found out on an hourly basis at this stage

Why is it everyone has to have a label now? It's very 'Republican' 'American'.
You and another lad could agree on absolutely everything except this one issue. People are more complex, but easier to marginalise or dismiss when you put them in a box.

alastair

Gatling wrote: »

Can this thread be merged with the other one ?

Concerned at the bull**** being called out?

Beechwoodspark

alastair wrote: »

Nothing fake about what I’ve posted. Unlike yourself.

Go back and have a read and then to salvage some sort of credibility apologise for your fake news BS

Gatling

alastair wrote: »

Concerned at the bull**** being called out?

What are you claiming now ..



Makes sense merging with the one thread already open