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Achill asylum centre cancelled - mod warning in OP (01/11/19)

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    #302
    US2
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    bubblypop wrote: »
    why do you think they did not leave?
    what do you think these 58,000 people are doing now?

    Alot of them working in fast food restaurants.


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    #303
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    bubblypop wrote: »
    so, there was a problem with 38 men, but is 13 women seen as better?
    why?
    and why can they not be housed there now?

    It’s 38 men plus 13 women. The 13 women were added on, it was then said they would arrive first but now the plans are on hold, the media are pushing only the 13 women part.

    Seriously, bubbly, having that many people arrive for an indefinite amount of time is a big ask of a community. They’re not tourists so you won’t be flogging Aran jumpers and shillelagh to them.

    To lessen the culture shock to the locals, would it not be better to send 5 lads who have been granted work permits? Set them up in a house. The locals will then see them head off to work using the public transport links in the area. On the days they are not working, these lads will be in the shops saying hello to the locals as they buy their groceries. The locals then go “these are lovely lads, we wouldn’t mind a few more like this in Achill”

    Bombarding people with the unknown isn’t fair.

    Edit: I had community as around 100 people but googling says the population of keel where hotel is is 541


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    #304
    Gatling
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    bubblypop wrote: »
    why do you think they did not leave?

    Why would they leave is the question and is there proof of them leaving .

    I highly doubt I'll get anything other than you know they left
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    #305
    US2
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    Gatling wrote: »
    Why would they leave is the question and is there proof of them leaving .

    I highly doubt I'll get anything other than you know they left

    He knows that they've left because there's no proof of them staying, yet there's no proof to show they've left which would be very easy to find.


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    #306
    KrustyUCC
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    The 13 women part is the main headline on RTE news at the moment

    Protests still ongoing in Achill


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    #307
    Gatling
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    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    The 13 women part is the main headline on RTE news at the moment

    Protests still ongoing in Achill

    And to think they have been labelled as racist by some.
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    #308
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    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    The 13 women part is the main headline on RTE news at the moment

    Protests still ongoing in Achill

    And still not being ran on the Facebook page. They’re afraid of the comments being more factually correct than they are.


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    #309
    KrustyUCC
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    When did the department change from 38 people to 13?


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    #310
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    Yesterday

    Edit: it could have been Wednesday.


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    #311
    nuac
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    Fann Linn wrote: »
    The Racist Map is getting larger. Roosky, Moville, Oughterard, Wicklow and now Achill.
    Coleman and NT breakfast should be fun tomorrow.

    Nothing racist about Achill concerns and protests


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    #312
    Fann Linn
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    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    When did the department change from 38 people to 13?

    When the disco was cancelled according to Stanton this morning


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    #313
    PostWoke
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    bubblypop wrote: »
    so, there was a problem with 38 men, but is 13 women seen as better?
    why?

    LMAO you for real mate?

    Do you wanna talk about how pure numbers are worse for infrastructure, or the gender of almost 100% of violent asylum scamming offenders in this country?
    bubblypop wrote: »
    where are they then?

    Clogging up the homeless systems in our cities.

    And yes, with my own two peepers.


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    #314
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    Wednesdays Mayo news was when the women were added.

    http://www.mayonews.ie/news/34503-arrival-of-asylum-seekers-in-achill-further-delayed


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    #315
    BarryD2
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    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Seriously, bubbly, having that many people arrive for an indefinite amount of time is a big ask of a community of approximately 100. They’re not tourists so you won’t be flogging Aran jumpers and shillelagh to them.

    Where do you get this community of 100? Reported that 50 are protesting today. Are you saying that 1 out of every 2 residents of Keel is out protesting?

    Local residents are dispersed through Achill. Yes there are villages but even these are spread out - linear villages mostly. You can go from Keel to Dooagh and hardly realise you are out of one before you're in the next. Quite different population distribution to Oughterard or Ballinamore.


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    #316
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    Gatling wrote: »
    Why would they leave is the question and is there proof of them leaving .

    I highly doubt I'll get anything other than you know they left

    why would they not leave?
    see, two can play that game1:rolleyes:

    why did some people get physically deported by Gardai?


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    #317
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    Sorry Barry. I dunno where the 100 came from. Was a number I had in my head. I’ll amend my post.


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    #318
    Fann Linn
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    nuac wrote: »

    Nothing racist about Achill concerns and protests

    Correct. But o Riordain, RTE, , Duffy, , Charlie Flanagan on RTE this very minute are calling them racist, alt right etc etc.


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    #319
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    PostWoke wrote: »
    LMAO you for real mate?

    Do you wanna talk about how pure numbers are worse for infrastructure, or the gender of almost 100% of violent asylum scamming offenders in this country?



    Clogging up the homeless systems in our cities.

    And yes, with my own two peepers.

    https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-cp5hpi/cp5hpi/nat/

    it says here 15% approx of homeless are non nationals. the majority of them are from Europe. so that would not include failed asylum seekers


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    #320
    TeaBagMania
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    Fann Linn wrote: »
    Correct. But o Riordain, RTE, , Duffy, , Charlie Flanagan on RTE this very minute are calling them racist, alt right etc etc.

    Just your typical libtard M.O.


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    #321
    PostWoke
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    bubblypop wrote: »
    https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-cp5hpi/cp5hpi/nat/

    it says here 15% approx of homeless are non nationals.

    And I can tell you that number is laughable.

    You can discover this too, for yourself.

    Visit any soup run in Dublin in the evening, or breakfast and lunch in the Capuchin Centre, and you'll see the reality.

    15% lmfao. Your article literally says "Among those that provided a nationality" in the opening line. These people are ghosts for a reason. They ain't telling you anything to remain under the radar.

    The next most laughable claim in that 'study' is that UK homeless outnumber Polish. Again, complete hogwash.


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    #322
    TeaBagMania
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    bubblypop wrote: »
    https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-cp5hpi/cp5hpi/nat/

    it says here 15% approx of homeless are non nationals. the majority of them are from Europe. so that would not include failed asylum seekers

    That report is from 2016, remind me when the "asylum seekers" boats landed?


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    #323
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    PostWoke wrote: »
    And I can tell you that number is laughable.

    You can discover this too, for yourself.

    Visit any soup run in Dublin in the evening, or breakfast and lunch in the Capuchin Centre, and you'll see the reality.

    15% lmfao.

    ok, so you believe that the people at the soup kitchens are failed asylum seekers, why ?


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    #324
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    TeaBagMania wrote: »
    That report is from 2016, remind me when the "asylum seekers" boats landed?

    asylum seekers have been coming to this country for years!
    in the mid 2000s there were hundreds of DP centres


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    #325
    TeaBagMania
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    bubblypop wrote: »
    asylum seekers have been coming to this country for years!
    in the mid 2000s there were hundreds of DP centres

    lol, yeah right, what total BS


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    #326
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    TeaBagMania wrote: »
    lol, yeah right, what total BS

    I'm sorry what?
    are you 12?


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    #327
    PostWoke
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    bubblypop wrote: »
    ok, so you believe that the people at the soup kitchens are failed asylum seekers, why ?

    I don't care what their particular hair splitting status is, I care that they're clogging up homeless services and sponging off the state. If you're going to be a guest of a foreign state, as I have spent many years doing myself, be skilled, working and contributing, as I spent many years doing. You don't get to holiday indefinitely in a foreign state on its' dime. Stop gaming the system, stop disrespecting nations and their people, and the crises they might be facing.

    Also yes your stats are well out of date. I see these lads literally taking pictures of the spread on in soup kitchens which to the credit of our wonderful citizens is significant almost every night, and sending them to their mates, inviting them over basically.

    Taking pictures how you may ask.

    Don't ask me why these individuals have two or three phones, some of them iPhones.


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    #328
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    PostWoke wrote: »
    I don't care what their particular hair splitting status is, I care that they're clogging up homeless services and sponging off the state. If you're going to be a guest of a foreign state, as I have spent many years doing myself, be skilled, working and contributing, as I spent many years doing. You don't get to holiday indefinitely in a foreign state on its' dime. Stop gaming the system, stop disrespecting nations and their people, and the crises they might be facing.

    Also yes your stats are well out of date. I see these lads literally taking pictures of the spread on in soup kitchens which to the credit of our wonderful citizens is significant almost every night, and sending them to their mates, inviting them over basically.

    Taking pictures how you may ask.

    Don't ask me why these individuals have two or three phones, some of them iPhones.

    OK, so nothing to do with failed asylum seekers then?


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    #329
    Gatling
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    bubblypop wrote: »
    two can play that game1:rolleyes:

    It's not a game so sorry your not able to back up your claim maybe stop then,
    Why attempt to derail a thread by being childish ?
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    #330
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    Gatling wrote: »
    It's not a game so sorry your not able to back up your claim maybe stop then,
    Why attempt to derail a thread by being childish ?

    you made a claim here, you said 58,000 deportation orders were isuued & 58,000 people did not leave.
    so it's up to you to back up YOUR claim


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    #331
    Beasty
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    If posters do not believe what others are saying, then it's fine to ask for backup. However if the poster does not provide backup then please move on. Readers of the threads can make up their own minds on the credentials of posters and any perceived "facts" they spout. There is no point though in going backwards and forwards incessantly on the same points. Please just agree to differ and move on, as if these threads just get stuck in the same ruts they will either be closed or posters will find themselves threadbanned (plus possible additional sanctions)


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