“Ireland has a rape culture”

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Here we go again... Ireland’s “rape culture” makes headlines yet again. Hey irish men, could you just stop raping women for five minutes please.

Hashtag mee too.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/ireland-has-a-rape-culture-woman-who-was-assaulted-calls-for-more-victim-protection-1.4033034

alswearengen

I don't care how un-pc it is to say, but I love raping.

SafeSurfer

We may have a problem with rape it’s in accurate to label it a culture.

http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/rape-statistics-by-country/

Underreporting of the issue has been a huge issue here as in other countries. Hopefully this will change with brave victims speaking out like the woman on the Late Late Show last night.

Hoboo

alswearengen wrote: »

I don't care how un-pc it is to say, but I love raping.

That's not un-pc, it's just childish.

piplip87

Let's give the feminists and the #ibelieveher crowd what they want. Let's lock up any man accused of rape and don't even bother with trials.

NIMAN

We have a rape culture because this woman was raped?

Thats stretching things a bit is it not?

Galwayguy35

Rapists are scum, 99% of men agree with this.

For this so called rape culture to exist the majority of men would feel it's ok to rape women, this isn't the case so it's just another term put out there by man hating radfems.

Veritas Libertas

Certainly there would seem to be a rape culture in prisons as they experience the highest rates of rape(according to savi report)

Imagine being jailed wrongly by a person who falsely accuses you of rape, only to end up in prison to get raped.

biko

85% of people who commit sexual assaults are known to their victims
https://www.rapecrisis.ie/statistics.html

Attack rapes are uncommon

Reviews and Books Galore

biko wrote: »

85% of people who commit sexual assaults are known to their victims
https://www.rapecrisis.ie/statistics.html

Attack rapes are uncommon

I would never trust anything from the rape crisis tbh and I would be very interested where all their funding goes.

Guy:Incognito

Presumably we also have a shoplifting culture? and a violent assault culture? Probably 50 other cultures too.

We are very cultured.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Presumably we also have a shoplifting culture? and a violent assault culture?.

There's a very specific culture in Ireland that caters to that.

noel1980

"Consent classes should be given in primary schools, she believes."

I'm not belittling this woman's experience, but when she suggests **** like this, I tune out

vriesmays

How many guys was she expecting to propose to her.

Thelonious Monk

I would have thought we're more a paedo culture given we were mad into that for so long?

biko

Ireland doesn't have a pedo culture, the catholic church does.

Portsalon

Irish Times circulation is nosediving so the editors and marketing whizz kids have decided that they should aim at a new target market - the man-hating, abortion loving, immigrant loving, #metoo career female (of both genders, or none).

It's a brave move and I wish them the best of luck with it, because they'll never get another cent from me - and I had been a loyal customer for most of my adult life up to a few years ago when I got fed up of the interminable PC sh1te and re-printed Guardian crap.

hetuzozaho

Portsalon wrote: »

Irish Times circulation is nosediving so the editors and marketing whizz kids have decided that they should aim at a new target market - the man-hating, abortion loving, immigrant loving, #metoo career female (of both genders, or none).

It's a brave move and I wish them the best of luck with it, because they'll never get another cent from me - and I had been a loyal customer for most of my adult life up to a few years ago when I got fed up of the interminable PC sh1te and re-printed Guardian crap.

Do you reckon enough people disagree with your way of thinking to make it profitable for them?

Sharp MZ700

sucking the teat of Twitter is really the last hurrah for the likes of the Times.

Homelander

I do have a problem with articles like this though. They're lazy. Rape happens, so Ireland has a rape culture? Conviction rates are low - same as other countries - which is apparent proof of a rape culture. The vast majority of men and women understand perfectly that rape is a disgusting, abhorrent thing without needing instruction. If you want real rape culture, there are other countries in which rape is much more common, and such claims from women taken far less seriously.... if at all.

Dyr

Portsalon wrote: »

Irish Times circulation is nosediving so the editors and marketing whizz kids have decided that they should aim at a new target market - the man-hating, abortion loving, immigrant loving, #metoo career female (of both genders, or none).

It's a brave move and I wish them the best of luck with it, because they'll never get another cent from me - and I had been a loyal customer for most of my adult life up to a few years ago when I got fed up of the interminable PC sh1te and re-printed Guardian crap.

Ehh that was always their market

The Paddy Jackson trial highlighted some of this. Before the verdict, the majority of my male friends believed she made it up and he was innocent without knowing much of the details. I'm not sure if you can call that rape culture but this prevailing attitude is a problem.

Portsalon

hetuzozaho wrote: »

Do you reckon enough people disagree with your way of thinking to make it profitable for them?

It doesn't really matter what I reckon! the marketing/editorial whizzkids think that it's the way to go and so long as the advertisers agree then everything will be hunky dory.

They don't appear to need my grey euros and I certainly don't need their interminable rubbish.

Mokuba

Deleted User wrote: »

The Paddy Jackson trial highlighted some of this. Before the verdict, the majority of my male friends believed she made it up and he was innocent without knowing much of the details. I'm not sure if you can call that rape culture but this prevailing attitude is a problem.

:rolleyes:

And afterward there are plenty who still believe him guilty and treat him as such, despite him being quickly found not guilty by a jury who saw all of the evidence and testimonies.

You could equally call this prevailing attitude a problem.

And the calls for believe all women,believing one sex over the other based purely on their sexual appendage.

You could equally call this prevailing attitude a problem.

Guy:Incognito

Portsalon wrote: »

Irish Times circulation is nosediving so the editors and marketing whizz kids have decided that they should aim at a new target market - the man-hating, abortion loving, immigrant loving, #metoo career female (of both genders, or none).

It's a brave move and I wish them the best of luck with it, because they'll never get another cent from me - and I had been a loyal customer for most of my adult life up to a few years ago when I got fed up of the interminable PC sh1te and re-printed Guardian crap.

Cant be very much money to be made from a non existent group.

I've never come across anyone thats "abortion-loving"

Wanting to have a choice about your own body isnt "abortion loving". No one wants to have to have an abortion and to go on with that ****e isnt doing anyones point of view any good. It just makes people that come out with stuff like that sound like *****.

TBH, people , and moreso men, that have such militant opinions on women and how that should have to live their lives are more than a bit odd.

Mokuba

Mokuba wrote: »

:rolleyes:

And afterward there are plenty who still believe him guilty and treat him as such, despite him being quickly found not guilty by a jury who saw all of the evidence and testimonies.

You could equally call this prevailing attitude a problem.

And the calls for believe all women,believing one sex over the other based purely on their sexual appendage.

You could equally call this prevailing attitude a problem.

Yes absolutely. Our arguments are not at odds here. I was purely talking about early in the trial.

In fact I was alluding to the bold part.

hetuzozaho

Portsalon wrote: »

They don't appear to need my grey euros

I guess so. Happens to every generation I guess. Times change.

Calhoun

As someone who travels internationally our attitudes towards woman and sex are much more matured in ways but it can depend on the part of society you talk to.

Do we have a rape culture though ? I don't believe so despite best efforts by a part of society to demonize men. We are by no means perfect though but I don't believe all men go out thinking about their next victim.

I always wonder what the end game of such articles like these are, do they want punitive laws on just men? Segregation?

Guy:Incognito

Deleted User wrote: »

The Paddy Jackson trial highlighted some of this. Before the verdict, the majority of my male friends believed she made it up and he was innocent without knowing much of the details. I'm not sure if you can call that rape culture but this prevailing attitude is a problem.

People can form opinions based on what information is out there though. Did you ask them exactly how much or how little they read?

From the other side of it, theres a lot of people who condemn him on the grounds of what they believe they read he said in his messages. Despite only 1 of his being in there. The whole chat is attributed to him.
The whole thing is landed on his shoulders because he was the most famous. There seems to be fairly little of Stuart Olding mentioned and I doubt the vast majority can name the other 2 defendants in the trial without looking it up.

Portsalon

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Cant be very much money to be made from a non existent group.

I've never come across anyone thats "abortion-loving"

Wanting to have a choice about your own body isnt "abortion loving". No one wants to have to have an abortion and to go on with that ****e isnt doing anyones point of view any good. It just makes people that come out with stuff like that sound like *****.

TBH, people , and moreso men, that have such militant opinions on women and how that should have to live their lives are more than a bit odd.

Great post. I trust you'll not be offended if I add you to my ignore list?

My remaining life is far too short to be wasted on reading such drivel.

Guy:Incognito

Portsalon wrote: »

Great post. I trust you'll not be offended if I add you to my ignore list?
.

How can I be offended by something that doesnt affect me and I wont know about?

There might be a lesson in there for a few people.........

hetuzozaho

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

How can I be offended by something that doesnt affect me and I wont know about?

Although they felt the need to tell you think it might be affecting them more than you

ShauntaMetzel

I think metoo tag has been hijecked by some attention seekers. Real victims are still suffering without social support.

Glass fused light

hetuzozaho wrote: »

Do you reckon enough people disagree with your way of thinking to make it profitable for them?

Their aim is not just to capture the people who agree also to capture the strongly disagreening people.

There is the trite use of the new buzz words along with the emotive story.

The report is easy to stir outrage without any depth of thinking.

No attempt to explore why the victim made the choice not to report the crime or the journey to speaking out (< This would be journalism)

Instead cause a sh1tstorm and clickbait from people who don't agree al la "pink news on twitter" and generate revenue of the ensuing "debate" if it gains outrage reaction / goes viral.

Rinse and repeat over and over

Portsalon

hetuzozaho wrote: »

Although they felt the need to tell you think it might be affecting them more than you

Did you have to quote him? :mad: Ruined my mid-morning snack.

noel1980

noel1980 wrote: »

"Consent classes should be given in primary schools, she believes."

I'm not belittling this woman's experience, but when she suggests **** like this, I tune out

this is the one who only got about 15 at her paddy jackson protest a few weeks back isnt it

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Gerardo Obedient Roadblock wrote: »

this is the one who only got about 15 at her paddy jackson protest a few weeks back isnt it

She’s some social democrat from Kildare. Have a look at her Twitter feed.

Moaning about gender balances in the Dail, the rise of the “alt right”, rape culture, hate crime legislation...

Someone drank all of the SJW kool aid.

Mother of Jesus is this what we’re electing in? If we are, we’re doomed.

Eric Cartman

Portsalon wrote: »

Irish Times circulation is nosediving so the editors and marketing whizz kids have decided that they should aim at a new target market - the man-hating, abortion loving, immigrant loving, #metoo career female (of both genders, or none).

It's a brave move and I wish them the best of luck with it, because they'll never get another cent from me - and I had been a loyal customer for most of my adult life up to a few years ago when I got fed up of the interminable PC sh1te and re-printed Guardian crap.

Women make up 80% of consumer spending and consume infinitely more media , particularly online than men. When your business model is ad regenue supported having controversial or shocking articles and ones that soecifically target women is good business sadly.

This won’t be going away any time soon sadly.

Hunky Monster

Hunky Monster wrote: »

She’s some social democrat from Kildare. Have a look at her Twitter feed.

Moaning about gender balances in the Dail, the rise of the “alt right”, rape culture, hate crime legislation...

Someone drank all of the SJW kool aid.

Mother of Jesus is this what we’re electing in? If we are, we’re doomed.

dont forget comedian.....she's having a meltdown threatening defamation on the times FB posts over people disagreeing with her..she had a simlar one a few weeks ago on the 96fm posts about Paddy

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Gerardo Obedient Roadblock wrote: »

dont forget comedian.....she's having a meltdown threatening defamation on the times FB posts over people disagreeing with her..she had a simlar one a few weeks ago on the 96fm posts about Paddy

Ah the trifecta is complete!

Comedian
SJW
Politics

I’d say her stand up would have you rolling in the aisles.

Calhoun

Ah so is this a veiled attempt at publicity ahead of an upcoming election ?

Be quite sick if that was the case.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Calhoun wrote: »

Ah so is this a veiled attempt at publicity ahead of an upcoming election ?

Be quite sick if that was not the case.

She LOVES attention. Absolutely craves it.

Guy:Incognito

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

People can form opinions based on what information is out there though. Did you ask them exactly how much or how little they read?

Yes people form opinions, I found that men too often come to the opinion that the allegation is somehow fraudulent. If that's what they mean by rape culture (an absolutely awful term that belittles a heinous crime), then we may have evidence of that culture.

From the other side of it, theres a lot of people who condemn him on the grounds of what they believe they read he said in his messages. Despite only 1 of his being in there. The whole chat is attributed to him.
The whole thing is landed on his shoulders because he was the most famous. There seems to be fairly little of Stuart Olding mentioned and I doubt the vast majority can name the other 2 defendants in the trial without looking it up.

Absolutely valid but its whataboutery.

Boggles

Hunky Monster wrote: »

She LOVES attention. Absolutely craves it.

So you start a thread about her?

Seems legit.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Boggles wrote: »

So you start a thread about her?

Seems legit.

I actually didn’t realize it was the same headbanger as before until it was mentioned.

Silentcorner

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Women make up 80% of consumer spending and consume infinitely more media , particularly online than men. When your business model is ad regenue supported having controversial or shocking articles and ones that soecifically target women is good business sadly.

This won’t be going away any time soon sadly.

In my opinion you are half right.

The business model that all these Media companies have is outdated, what we are witnessing is the last roll of the dice...they'll all be gone in the next 10 years, probably 5!

The problem with this narrative is that while it might be consistent with other media outlets and it might reflect the prevailing beliefs of heavy twitter users, they are in the minority.

Most sensible women, that I know at any rate, are well aware of how nuanced these dangerous situations are, how difficult they can be to determine who was in the wrong....the difficulties the legal sector is having with dealing with these cases is reflected in that, remember, female majority juries are most likely not to convict in a rape case.

I can't stress enough how much sympathy I have for a woman who has subjected to rape, there is a very good reason why it is the 2nd most serious crime on our statute books, but if we are going to talk about rape victims, in a balanced world we must also talk about the victims of false rape accusations.

There was a trial in Cork last year, just before the Paddy Jackson trial, where two performers who had just appeared in The Marquee were subjected to what can only be described as a false rape accusation...it must of been horrific for them and their families to experience such a thing!

There is no easy way for public discourse to handle the victims of both crimes, it is beyond the capabilities of our media organisations to provide balance.

4068ac1elhodqr

Thankfully Ireland is not nearly as bad as progressive Sweden (now with female-only music festivals, due to the real fear of mass assault).

Nor, not (yet) as bad as the heart of Europe (Germany) whereby 2,200 men assualted 1,000 women (600 in Cologne, 400 in Hamburg), 24rapes reported, and numerous thefts. All on a single night.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/cologne-new-years-eve-mass-sex-attacks-leaked-document-a7130476.html


Similar incidents (maybe not seen since the Vikings) were reported across Frankfurt, Studdgart, Dusseldorf etc on NYE 15-16.

Think Paddy Mc' has already been brought into line thanks to years of RCC oppression, skinny jeans (tights), Jillete woke adverts, and regular reminders of his guilt-laden privileges.

Sarcozies

It's worse than just a culture. The very laws of this state preclude the ability of a woman to rape a man.

There are men today in Ireland who have been the victims of such heinous acts that is only rivaled by the incredulity of the state and it's government.

corks finest

NIMAN wrote:

We have a rape culture because this woman was raped?

I really don't believe Ireland has a tape culture,India, South Africa etc have we're hopefully galaxies away from them

corks finest

Galwayguy35 wrote:

Rapists are scum, 99% of men agree with this.

Correct

Eric Cartman

Hunky Monster wrote: »

It’s funny you should mention Sweden...and gang rape and sexual violence.

What are those white men doing in that country?

Leaving or talking about it and being called racists