BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day Part 6

bazz26

There are always going to be people out there that want to avoid paying tax even if it were on the cheapest rate. I remember from another thread on here there was a 4 or 5 year old Golf R for sale that had something like 10 owners on it. The tax on that was only €570 per year and tax is the hardly the most expensive ownership cost on a Golf R.

punisher5112

bazz26 wrote: »

There are always going to be people out there that want to avoid paying tax even if it were on the cheapest rate. I remember from another thread on here there was a 4 or 5 year old Golf R for sale that had something like 10 owners on it. The tax on that was only €570 per year and tax is the hardly the most expensive ownership cost on a Golf R.

Stick it to the gubernment

Idbatterim

bazz26 wrote: »

There are always going to be people out there that want to avoid paying tax even if it were on the cheapest rate. I remember from another thread on here there was a 4 or 5 year old Golf R for sale that had something like 10 owners on it. The tax on that was only €570 per year and tax is the hardly the most expensive ownership cost on a Golf R.

yeah, madness doing it on E570, double that or more, is where I get why some people do it...

Sam Russell

bazz26 wrote: »

There are always going to be people out there that want to avoid paying tax even if it were on the cheapest rate. I remember from another thread on here there was a 4 or 5 year old Golf R for sale that had something like 10 owners on it. The tax on that was only €570 per year and tax is the hardly the most expensive ownership cost on a Golf R.

It would be so easy to defeat that practice - just make it that transfer of ownership is only possible if the vehicle is taxed up to date. Also, vehicle cannot be declared off the road if the tax is out, unless the vehicle is currently registered as off the road.

Either taxing vehicle with motor tax is lawfully valid or it is not - but it should not be considered OK for people to evade the tax. Collecting it from people when they insure it might be a better idea - the vehicle must be insured.

Alternatively include third party insurance with the motor tax.

More enforcement is required.

punisher5112

Sam Russell wrote: »

It would be so easy to defeat that practice - just make it that transfer of ownership is only possible if the vehicle is taxed up to date. Also, vehicle cannot be declared off the road if the tax is out, unless the vehicle is currently registered as off the road.

Either taxing vehicle with motor tax is lawfully valid or it is not - but it should not be considered OK for people to evade the tax. Collecting it from people when they insure it might be a better idea - the vehicle must be insured.

Alternatively include third party insurance with the motor tax.

More enforcement is required.

Doesn't happen like it use too to be honest, I got 6 months out of a UK import, then a few months here and their on 1.9 or 2.0 petrol and Diesel, never really kept cars long anyway.

Top Dog

bazz26 wrote: »

There are always going to be people out there that want to avoid paying tax even if it were on the cheapest rate. I remember from another thread on here there was a 4 or 5 year old Golf R for sale that had something like 10 owners on it. The tax on that was only €570 per year and tax is the hardly the most expensive ownership cost on a Golf R.

To be fair, in a case like that people were probably moving it on due to unwanted attention and the fear of it being stolen. Just look at boardsie JoeA3 who got rid of his for that reason.

CoBo55

Sam Russell wrote: »

It would be so easy to defeat that practice - just make it that transfer of ownership is only possible if the vehicle is taxed up to date. Also, vehicle cannot be declared off the road if the tax is out, unless the vehicle is currently registered as off the road.

Either taxing vehicle with motor tax is lawfully valid or it is not - but it should not be considered OK for people to evade the tax. Collecting it from people when they insure it might be a better idea - the vehicle must be insured.

Alternatively include third party insurance with the motor tax.

More enforcement is required.

You can't declare a vehicle off road if the tax is already expired. Vehicle must be insured at the time of taxing too.

johndaman66

bazz26 wrote: »

There are always going to be people out there that want to avoid paying tax even if it were on the cheapest rate. I remember from another thread on here there was a 4 or 5 year old Golf R for sale that had something like 10 owners on it. The tax on that was only €570 per year and tax is the hardly the most expensive ownership cost on a Golf R.

I remember that alright. Opened the ad with the line on why there were so many owners on the car. Irrespective of whether or not you agreed with his sentiment it struck me as a very poor way to kick off an ad, bad start and all that. He may have being better off to stick the comment in further down the ad.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-laguna-1-5d/26289977
Laguna 1.5 diesel
295k KM
NCT 07/21
Looks tidy.
Asking €1,650.

punisher5112

CoBo55 wrote: »

You can't declare a vehicle off road if the tax is already expired. Vehicle must be insured at the time of taxing too.

1st part correct but 2nd part not.

Online you can add any policy or non existent one....

Sam Russell

punisher5112 wrote: »

1st part correct but 2nd part not.

Online you can add any policy or non existent one....

Yes but you are declaring that it is insured, plus if you use it on the road, it must be insured.

CoBo55

punisher5112 wrote: »

1st part correct but 2nd part not.

Online you can add any policy or non existent one....

I understand that, but in the eyes of the law you must present an insurance certificate (or number if taxing online) to tax a vehicle. Because the tax office couldn't be bothered to check the online number system actually works isn't the fault of the law makers (enforcement)

Midnight_EG

CoBo55 wrote: »

I understand that, but in the eyes of the law you must present an insurance certificate (or number if taxing online) to tax a vehicle. Because the tax office couldn't be bothered to check the online number system actually works isn't the fault of the law makers (enforcement)

I had this argument out with a guard one day... They can indeed recall what you write into the insurance box when you tax a car online. It's when it's 'not yours' that most people put in some gobbledegook and herein lies where I had the argument with the guard :pac:

DeepBlue

Less discussion............more cars.



https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/honda-civic-hatchback-low-mileage-quot/26290156

2007 Honda Civic 1.4 Petrol NCT 08/21 Mileage 174K Asking €1,795

Thoughts on this one? Is there enough poke in the 1.4 engine in these?

CoBo55

DeepBlue wrote: »

Less discussion............more cars.



https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/honda-civic-hatchback-low-mileage-quot/26290156

2007 Honda Civic 1.4 Petrol NCT 08/21 Mileage 174K Asking €1,795

Thoughts on this one? Is there enough poke in the 1.4 engine in these?

Dead as a dodo, wouldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding. Very economical like most small engined Japanese cars. Money is far to strong.

colm_mcm

Get the 1.8, you’ll get a years tax with the money you’ll save.

crasy dash

Cheap and cheerful Suzuki might get some one out of trouble i nearly consider it a free car if it runs any way half ok.
Fresh nct and tax to boot
Not the most exciting car looks clean on the outside and a quick valet would do wonders

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/suzuki-liana-tax-and-tested/26313510?campaign=14

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crasy dash wrote: »

Cheap and cheerful Suzuki might get some one out of trouble i nearly consider it a free car if it runs any way half ok.
Fresh nct and tax to boot
Not the most exciting car looks clean on the outside and a quick valet would do wonders

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/suzuki-liana-tax-and-tested/26313510?campaign=14

These are one of the cheapest cars to insure, would make a great first car for somebody.

gussieg

i like the hatchback shape lianas but these ones are just so fugly. seems like a decent car , i dont know . but just one owner , cant be bad at all.

kalkat2002

2005 peugeot 307 diesel

550 eur

http://www.adverts.ie/21936571

wotzgoingon

gussieg wrote: »

i like the hatchback shape lianas but these ones are just so fugly. seems like a decent car , i dont know . but just one owner , cant be bad at all.

Two owner and who ever buys it will be the third.

bazz26

Clean looking Puma with NCT until next May and tax until the end of the year, asking €750:



https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2002-ford-puma/25799371

Just need to make sure it's rust free.

Oops!

Yep, and unless it gave most of its life garaged it could be some mess under the back of it.

PCeeeee

bazz26 wrote: »

Clean looking Puma with NCT until next May and tax until the end of the year, asking €750:



https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2002-ford-puma/25799371

Just need to make sure it's rust free.

Second this. Lovely car but rust rust rust. Herself had two.

Toyotafanboi

Looks like the back arches are already suffering on that one.

kalkat2002

1998 toyota starlet

1000 eur

http://www.adverts.ie/21946032

For Forks Sake

Audi A2 TDi
NCT Jan 22 tax Jan 21

€1250 (looking for quick sale according to ad, so should have haggle room if the car checks out.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/audi-a2-2004-1-4-l-diesel-tdi/26296461?campaign=3

Andrew33

PCeeeee wrote: »

Second this. Lovely car but rust rust rust. Herself had two.

Similar to the Sportka/Streetka? Can’t see the serious rust until you remove plastic wheel arch liners?

crazyjim

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Audi A2 TDi
NCT Jan 22 tax Jan 21

€1250 (looking for quick sale according to ad, so should have haggle room if the car checks out.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/audi-a2-2004-1-4-l-diesel-tdi/26296461?campaign=3

You can try haggingly if you like. I've been failing to get a bargain off her on her Unisex rollerblades for ages

https://www.donedeal.ie/othersports-for-sale/unisex-rollerblades/25893040

Akrasia

Sam Russell wrote: »

Yes but you are declaring that it is insured, plus if you use it on the road, it must be insured.

Genuine question... If I am road testing a car with no insurance disk but I have 'driving other cars' on a policy that doesn't require the other car to be insured by its owner...

The car is insured on my insurance policy. The car doesn't need its own insurance, nor is that even a thing

Buford T Justice

Akrasia wrote: »

Genuine question... If I am road testing a car with no insurance disk but I have 'driving other cars' on a policy that doesn't require the other car to be insured by its owner...

The car is insured on my insurance policy. The car doesn't need its own insurance, nor is that even a thing

Your insurance will cover you, but 3rd party only.